Howie: middle of NFL curve worse than taking risk and failing

[kskboys]

As a Cowboy fan I approve of that lol.

I don’t think Philly is that stupid. Surely they know what he is and you can’t pay him.

Lamar, I mean Jalen is already starting to sustain injuries.

 

[removed_20241105]

The Cowboys are currently a top 8 team in the NFL. They are good. Their best players except for Pollard are under contract. Any team with Parsons, CeeDee, Tyler, Martin and Diggs is a great foundation to build a NFL power house around.

Agree they have a few good foundational pieces. New offensive system with new coaches, suspect defensive line and WR group, and a featured declining ineffective RB are some of the challenges and obstacles.

I respect your faith in them starting as a good team just needing to get a little better. I see it as having to build this thing back up again but our end desires for the season are the same.

 

[nightrain]

That's the way it is in any business and ironically, how Jerry made millions in petroleum exploration and with the Cowboys (before he decided to run football operations).

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Touch early for the dynasty talk. They have like 8 free agents on d alone and have to pay hurts.

Yeah the only franchise since the 2000s which has actually had a Super Bowl dynasty is the Patriots. The Chiefs might have a chance at becoming one if they win the Super Bowl on Sunday and keep Mahomes for another ten years or so. The thing which might hinder the Eagles from becoming a dynasty is signing Jalen Hurts to a big contract, if the belief really is that QBs being signed to big contracts prevents teams from being able to sustain a high quality roster and talent around them. The Eagles would also have to avoid the Super Bowl hang overs, like what happened with the Rams.

The main thing is that if they fall off for a few years after this, then they have the GM who is willing to rebuild and learn from his mistakes to get his team back to becoming Super Bowl contenders. That's the difference between the Eagles front office and ours.

 

[BigCowboysHomer]

Who cares? They had one of the easiest schedules this year, yet almost lost both times to us.

Except for three games, the Cowboys and Eagles had the same schedule. In those three difference games - Dallas had Tampa Bay/Cincinnati/LA Rams, Philadelphia had New Orleans/Pittsburgh/Arizona - both teams were 2-1, so it was a wash, it made no difference to the final standings.

The Cowboys and Eagles played each other twice and both teams were 1-1, so again it was a wash and made no difference to the final standings.

The remaining 12 games on the schedule were against the exact same teams. The Cowboys were 9-3 and the Eagles were 11-1. That was the difference between the #5 seed and the #1 seed.

The NFC East teams played the entire AFC South, a weak division. Outside of the NFC East, the entire NFC was weak with only a few good teams, leading to an "easy" schedule for both the Cowboys and Eagles when playing teams outside of the NFC East.

 

[JohnsKey19]

You can't expect to compete DEEP into the playoffs when you ALWAYS ignore the luxury portion of the FA/trade market. Just last year alone, the Eagles added AJ Brown, James Bradbury and Hassan Reddick. Just imagine the type of boost an influx of talent like this would give the Cowboys.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

And a lot of extra 1st/2nd round picks coming over the next two years.

Be interesting to see what happens w/ Hurts' contract.

I agree, they're kind of at a cross roads with the Hurts contract. They can draft a qb in the top 10 and turn Hurts into picks. They can also pay him, and be in the same boat as the Cowboys.

 

[Flamma]

Maybe Mark Cuban can help Jerry find his balls again..........Yeah, the Kyrie deal might blow up in Cuban's face, but at least he swung for the fences.

Jerry is just happy to advance the runner to the next base.

Absolutely. Even worse than that is barely making the playoffs, like Seattle and Miami. Zero chance to win a championship, and a bad draft pick. I think the league would be better suited to go to a totally random draft order for non playoff teams. It would make things a lot more interesting, and totally remove tanking.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Dynasty? With all the FA's they have coming up as well as aging players. Do you really think they will keep the team together? They may very well be the Rams this next season and be lucky to win 8 games.
I know we have a lot of Eagles fans and envy on here. They did a great job building the team this season. But I will not say dynasty yet.

We could potentially see a repeat of happening to the Eagles, of what happened to the Rams. But hopefully if will come with the Eagles losing on Sunday and Rams fans at least saying that their team could a Super Bowl win out of it. While the Eagles could potentially have to go back to rebuild mode depending on how the next couple of seasons goes for them.

 

[CouchCoach]

I think Booger likes being in the middle because relevancy is assured.

I also don’t think they know how to not be stuck in the middle.

Look at the effect of just two players for PHL, Brown and Riddick. Where do you think the Cowboys brain trust had them ranked for value?

The difference with the 30 teams that have GM’s is that they are not allowed to be satisfied with ”good enough” and the Joneses live there.

This belief that they are better drafters than the other clubs because of the number they have stick doesn’t take into consideration they might be the most draft dependent team in the league which creates that.

Drafting is the easiest part of team building and the boards do not vary much.

Evaluating the talent/value level of players once in the league is the tough part and the Cowboys are not good at that.

 

[fivetwos]

You can't expect to compete DEEP into the playoffs when you ALWAYS ignore the luxury portion of the FA/trade market. Just last year alone, the Eagles added AJ Brown, James Bradbury and Hassan Reddick. Just imagine the type of boost an influx of talent like this would give the Cowboys.

Simple….thinking what you already have or mid round rookies are just as good for a fraction of the cost.

The overrate their own, repeatedly….and if they really think that Elliott hasn’t lost anything, I’m not so sure what to think or expect anymore.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

As a Cowboy fan I approve of that lol.

I don’t think Philly is that stupid. Surely they know what he is and you can’t pay him.

I've seen Eagles fans say that Jalen Hurts isn't about the money and is more about the team. So I guess we'll find out whether or not that is true when other QBs drafted around the same time he was get their big contract signing and the Eagles try to get him to sign for something cheaper. Or they're going to feel like they have to sign him, especially if they win a Super Bowl with him and the talks about of him being an elite QB.

 

[CATCH17]

I've seen Eagles fans say that Jalen Hurts isn't about the money and is more about the team. So I guess we'll find out whether or not that is true when other QBs drafted around the same time he was get their big contract signing and the Eagles try to get him to sign for something cheaper. Or they're going to feel like they have to sign him, especially if they win a Super Bowl with him and the talks about of him being an elite QB.

He’s clearly a system QB and his running is what makes it go like it does.

You can’t pay a guy who is just a RPO guy.

Heck I’d take Dak over Hurts and it’s not even close.

 

[khiladi]

Hurts might not be good but he's still much better than Dak.

More fluid in his mechanics and better runner. Dak is effectively done as a runner.

 

[khiladi]

Yeah the only franchise since the 2000s which has actually had a Super Bowl dynasty is the Patriots. The Chiefs might have a chance at becoming one if they win the Super Bowl on Sunday and keep Mahomes for another ten years or so. The thing which might hinder the Eagles from becoming a dynasty is signing Jalen Hurts to a big contract, if the belief really is that QBs being signed to big contracts prevents teams from being able to sustain a high quality roster and talent around them. The Eagles would also have to avoid the Super Bowl hang overs, like what happened with the Rams.

The main thing is that if they fall off for a few years after this, then they have the GM who is willing to rebuild and learn from his mistakes to get his team back to becoming Super Bowl contenders. That's the difference between the Eagles front office and ours.

I think most teams are beginning to take the hit of the dead money cap years to retool, if they can win a SB and be competitive a couple years.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Except for three games, the Cowboys and Eagles had the same schedule. In those three difference games - Dallas had Tampa Bay/Cincinnati/LA Rams, Philadelphia had New Orleans/Pittsburgh/Arizona - both teams were 2-1, so it was a wash, it made no difference to the final standings.

The Cowboys and Eagles played each other twice and both teams were 1-1, so again it was a wash and made no difference to the final standings.

The remaining 12 games on the schedule were against the exact same teams. The Cowboys were 9-3 and the Eagles were 11-1. That was the difference between the #5 seed and the #1 seed.

The NFC East teams played the entire AFC South, a weak division. Outside of the NFC East, the entire NFC was weak with only a few good teams, leading to an "easy" schedule for both the Cowboys and Eagles when playing teams outside of the NFC East.

Are you serious? Those 3 teams (New Orleans/Pittsburgh/Arizona) were way easier teams to play than (Tampa Bay/Cincinnati/LA Rams). I guarantee the Eagles would not have finished 2-1 against the Tampa Bay/Cincinnati/LA Rams.

 

[CouchCoach]

Booger works at it part time and doesn’t evaluate players utilizing film.

Booger sits back to start the season, admiring himself and his work, and announces “we are ready”.

Roseman and Snead never stop asking “what’s missing and how can I make it better”?

Booger is living off of titles earned 30 years ago. Roseman couldn’t even live off one won 6 years ago.

 

[Dallasfann]

I'd rather make the Super Bowl every 5 years and playoffs every few years than get knocked out in the first or second round of the playoffs every other year to every year...at least one gives you a SB appearance and maybe win from time to time. The other is guaranteed failure every year.

The Eagles have been in 4 Superbowls in the last 56 years and we got people claiming they are a dynasty that can't be stopped. I love Cowboy fans haha. They are so emotional.

 

[Dallasfann]

Eagles have never been this strong. Thank God they are tying their ship to Hurts because with an elite QB, that roster would dominate. If they give him a big deal in the off-season, I can’t see them being able to retain their talent for long. That being said, I still like them in the East next season. But injuries will play a big part in where we both finish next season.

And the only thing you’d see from my posts last off-season are predictions that have since come good.

I bet the Eagles struggle to make the wild card next season. This is the NFL. Remember the Rams? Yea...that was less then a year ago they were holding up a trophy as the best team in the whole world. I'd argue they might be the worst team today.

I get it though, Eagles...division rival. Emotional fan base. People here acting like they've won more then 1 superbowl in the past 56 years.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

The Eagles have been in 4 Superbowls in the last 56 years and we got people claiming they are a dynasty that can't be stopped. I love Cowboy fans haha. They are so emotional.

We just live off of the 70's and 90's teams. Haven't won anything in 30 years. Have one of the worse playoff records of any team this century. We aren't no better except that the Eagles run circles around the Cowboys this century. Then again most teams do. . Some people just don't want to believe it. Fans of other teams know this though and that's why they laugh at us.