I ain't giving up on Trey Lance

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There's a very 89 Aikman vibe to Lance's preseason this year.

I think he's the next great Cowboys QB. I think he wins titles and I think Skip Bayless claims that he's gay.
 

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Dozens of scouts thought 4 years ago
But after 4 years there is consensus.

Now they know he is not elite nor has potential to be a top notch NFL qb.

If they did teams would be knocking at our door
You don’t have any clue about some alleged “consensus”. That’s just your wishful thinking.

Several teams tried to trade for Lance. Nothing has changed concerning his status and no one’s knocking at “our door” because he’s not trade bait.
 

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Let's put this in terms even Zone fans could understand - Quincy Carter was a better QB as a rookie than Lance is now and would have had a more "successful" career than Lance will ever have in the NFL. As I said earlier, Lance would not have made any other 53 man roster on any other NFL team this year. He's only on this roster because Jerruh tossed out a 4th rd pick on him.
 

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You don’t have any clue about some alleged “consensus”. That’s just your wishful thinking.

Several teams tried to trade for Lance. Nothing has changed concerning his status and no one’s knocking at “our door” because he’s not trade bait.
my wishful thinking? if looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, acts like a duck...its a duck.

if he was as good or could be as good, then he wouldn't be the 3rd QB on the cowboys. if he was any good, had potential, niners wouldn't trade him for a 4th after giving up three 1s to get him. if he was any good, had potential to be any good, teams would be calling cowboys to make a trade.

several teams tried...two years ago. rumor was they offered 6th rounder. idiot jerry upped it to a 4th for some reason.

keep telling yourself that stuff and you may someday actually believe part of it.
 

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Daks career is a failure.

Can’t win playoff games.

jerry loves Lance.
by that definition then 98% of QBs who ever played NFL are failures.

Jerry is an idiot, there is no denying that. but Jerry also owns the cowboys. the senile leader of cowboys has gone full Al Davis when the end was near.
 

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my wishful thinking? if looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, acts like a duck...its a duck.

if he was as good or could be as good, then he wouldn't be the 3rd QB on the cowboys. if he was any good, had potential, niners wouldn't trade him for a 4th after giving up three 1s to get him. if he was any good, had potential to be any good, teams would be calling cowboys to make a trade.

several teams tried...two years ago. rumor was they offered 6th rounder. idiot jerry upped it to a 4th for some reason.

keep telling yourself that stuff and you may someday actually believe part of it.
Romo was 3rd on the depth chart for two years. And he played four years in college.

How many times are you people going to repeat the line that the 49ers wouldn’t have traded him if he was any good? He wouldn’t have been traded if the 49ers didn’t luck into Purdy. Were SB winning QBs Brett Favre or Steve Young not any good when other teams traded for them?

This line is getting old.

And he was traded for last year, not two years ago.
 

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Let's put this in terms even Zone fans could understand - Quincy Carter was a better QB as a rookie than Lance is now and would have had a more "successful" career than Lance will ever have in the NFL. As I said earlier, Lance would not have made any other 53 man roster on any other NFL team this year. He's only on this roster because Jerruh tossed out a 4th rd pick on him.
Lance looks like Quincy Carter’s rookie year. Thrown to the wolves, scared, lost and relying on athletic ability.

But yeah, Quincy was definitely a better QB in his year with Parcells.

Another Jerry QB Project Power Move bites the dust.
 

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Romo was 3rd on the depth chart for two years. And he played four years in college.

How many times are you people going to repeat the line that the 49ers wouldn’t have traded him if he was any good? He wouldn’t have been traded if the 49ers didn’t luck into Purdy. Were SB winning QBs Brett Favre or Steve Young not any good when other teams traded for them?

This line is getting old.

And he was traded for last year, not two years ago.
Romo was UDFA. Trance is 3rd pick of the draft. see the difference?

and Romo was an exception. he went undrafted because he needed some work, not in throwing, but ability to control his impulses in making throws he shouldn't have tried. also learning to read defenses.

he sat on the bench as you said. learning...then Romo played and he was great. .

yet here we are, year 4, and even the coach said:
"He's just got to continue to develop," said McCarthy. "You can see the things he's really focused on, the concept footwork and things like that, he got better each week in the preseason. Great job extending plays with his legs. Made some plays in the quarterback run phase. Just trying to continue that dropback passing. He's making strides. The preseason, I don't know that there's anyone on our team who benefited more from the preseason than Trey Lance."

year 4 and still got to develop. still got ways to go.

and to what end? is he ever going to be elite? if he was, he would have already shown it. he would have already taken over the #2 spot, which he couldn't.
his ceiling is low and you are going gaga, drooling at the mouth for a player that at best is going to be nothing better than average.

I swear, this is getting old.
 

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Romo was UDFA. Trance is 3rd pick of the draft. see the difference?

and Romo was an exception. he went undrafted because he needed some work, not in throwing, but ability to control his impulses in making throws he shouldn't have tried. also learning to read defenses.

he sat on the bench as you said. learning...then Romo played and he was great. .

yet here we are, year 4, and even the coach said:
"He's just got to continue to develop," said McCarthy. "You can see the things he's really focused on, the concept footwork and things like that, he got better each week in the preseason. Great job extending plays with his legs. Made some plays in the quarterback run phase. Just trying to continue that dropback passing. He's making strides. The preseason, I don't know that there's anyone on our team who benefited more from the preseason than Trey Lance."

year 4 and still got to develop. still got ways to go.

and to what end? is he ever going to be elite? if he was, he would have already shown it. he would have already taken over the #2 spot, which he couldn't.
his ceiling is low and you are going gaga, drooling at the mouth for a player that at best is going to be nothing better than average.

I swear, this is getting old.
LOL at saying Romo was an UDFA and "Trance" was the 3rd pick as if that changes anything about what was said. He was the latter because he flashed serious potential even though he was very green.

I'm beginning to think there's one person with multiple accounts in a focused agenda against "Trance".

Year 4. Another line repeated ad nauseum when it's a known fact he was injured for almost two of them. So we have a QB that's played one year of college, was injured for almost two, and he's now the beginning his 4th year in the league, and yet he can't develop. A QB that's younger than both Penix and Nix who were drafted this year.

It's year 9 for the current veteran QB on the team. When is he going to play better than mediocre against a playoff caliber team other than one that sneaked in with an 8-9 record?
 

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LOL at saying Romo was an UDFA and "Trance" was the 3rd pick as if that changes anything about what was said. He was the latter because he flashed serious potential even though he was very green.

I'm beginning to think there's one person with multiple accounts in a focused agenda against "Trance".

Year 4. Another line repeated ad nauseum when it's a known fact he was injured for almost two of them. So we have a QB that's played one year of college, was injured for almost two, and he's now the beginning his 4th year in the league, and yet he can't develop. A QB that's younger than both Penix and Nix who were drafted this year.

It's year 9 for the current veteran QB on the team. When is he going to play better than mediocre against a playoff caliber team other than one that sneaked in with an 8-9 record?
if you don't understand that makes a difference, then you are clueless about football.
SF spent a premium pick...no correction, three premium picks to pick Lance. you exepct retrun on investment. cowboys didn't invest anything in getting Romo, yet when Romo got the chance he showed what he can do, Lance in year 4 similar to romo still needs more reps!!!

He was wrongly scouted. its not like it has never happened in NFL....I mean color me surprised!!! NOT. if people knew what we know today, he would probably fall into the 7th round, just because he can run like a RB.

and yes, year 4. 4 years of investment. 4 years of time spent on him. and yet he still makes the same fundamental mistakes. there are rookie QBs this year who have out played him!!!!! I mean shouldn't we minimally expect him to be as good as one of the rookies!!! or are there more excuses for him?

and just like clock work. as expected. can't prove your point and you point over there..."hey look at Dak!!!! "

this wasn't about Dak. had nothing to do with him. we are not comparing Dak and Lance...time for Dak to go. been saying that for a while...but then again why am I not surprised at that last comment? typical. predictable.

btw, if you are saying we made a mistake with Dak investing so much time and getting not enough. why make the same mistake again.

oh, btw, the Joneses and coaches believed in Lance so much, they opted not to pick up his 5th year option....and they have had time to evaluate!!!
 

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if you don't understand that makes a difference, then you are clueless about football.
SF spent a premium pick...no correction, three premium picks to pick Lance. you exepct retrun on investment. cowboys didn't invest anything in getting Romo, yet when Romo got the chance he showed what he can do, Lance in year 4 similar to romo still needs more reps!!!

He was wrongly scouted. its not like it has never happened in NFL....I mean color me surprised!!! NOT. if people knew what we know today, he would probably fall into the 7th round, just because he can run like a RB.

and yes, year 4. 4 years of investment. 4 years of time spent on him. and yet he still makes the same fundamental mistakes. there are rookie QBs this year who have out played him!!!!! I mean shouldn't we minimally expect him to be as good as one of the rookies!!! or are there more excuses for him?

and just like clock work. as expected. can't prove your point and you point over there..."hey look at Dak!!!! "

this wasn't about Dak. had nothing to do with him. we are not comparing Dak and Lance...time for Dak to go. been saying that for a while...but then again why am I not surprised at that last comment? typical. predictable.

btw, if you are saying we made a mistake with Dak investing so much time and getting not enough. why make the same mistake again.

oh, btw, the Joneses and coaches believed in Lance so much, they opted not to pick up his 5th year option....and they have had time to evaluate!!!

Plus Romo as an UDFA never threw 5 INTs against 3rd and 4th stringers in preseason. If he had, then he probably would have been cut from the team due to him being an UDFA. And he developed on the bench, and didn't have as many doubts or questions about whether or not he could be a true QB in the NFL. Like some many still doubt Lance could ever be. Romo throughout the years continued to get better as far a the most important QB skills goes. Compared to Lance who is still in the same spot he was 4 years ago.

And even Dak while he isn't elite and while he might not ever get the Cowboys over the playoff hump, has improved upon his footwork and throwing motion from where it was when he was a rookie. There are rookies and 2nd year QBs in the NFL right now, who will be in a far more advanced place as far as developing goes in their 4th year as a QB in the NFL than Lance is right now in his 4th year.

The difference between Romo is that he would have been cut from the team if he showed the same struggles as Lance keeps on showing. Because Romo as an UDFA wouldn't be getting so much time to prove he could be a true QB in the NFL. The only reason Lance is still viewed as having so much potential to develop into a great to elite QB is because he was drafted 3rd overall and the 49ers spent so much to get him. QBs who were drafted in the later rounds would not been given the same amount of opportunity if there was the believe that they still needed a lot more work and time to even show they could potentially be a starting QB in the NFL.

No one can really say Trey Lance hasn't been presented with opportunities to work his way up into a reliable starting QB in the NFL. He got his chances on 2 teams and for 2 years in a row, couldn't even beat out Sam Darnold or Cooper Rush for the back up spots. So far it looks like the Cowboys future QB is going to have to be done by freshly drafting one.
 

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if you don't understand that makes a difference, then you are clueless about football.
SF spent a premium pick...no correction, three premium picks to pick Lance. you exepct retrun on investment. cowboys didn't invest anything in getting Romo, yet when Romo got the chance he showed what he can do, Lance in year 4 similar to romo still needs more reps!!!

He was wrongly scouted. its not like it has never happened in NFL....I mean color me surprised!!! NOT. if people knew what we know today, he would probably fall into the 7th round, just because he can run like a RB.

and yes, year 4. 4 years of investment. 4 years of time spent on him. and yet he still makes the same fundamental mistakes. there are rookie QBs this year who have out played him!!!!! I mean shouldn't we minimally expect him to be as good as one of the rookies!!! or are there more excuses for him?

and just like clock work. as expected. can't prove your point and you point over there..."hey look at Dak!!!! "

this wasn't about Dak. had nothing to do with him. we are not comparing Dak and Lance...time for Dak to go. been saying that for a while...but then again why am I not surprised at that last comment? typical. predictable.

btw, if you are saying we made a mistake with Dak investing so much time and getting not enough. why make the same mistake again.

oh, btw, the Joneses and coaches believed in Lance so much, they opted not to pick up his 5th year option....and they have had time to evaluate!!!
No, he wasn't. Lance was projected as a 1st/2nd round pick purely on his physical skillset. So, why was he taken so high? Because if you don't have a QB, you have nothing. So, the teams that want/need one jump up to the top to get a prospect. In this case, it was a small school guy w/ a great arm, quick release, and great athleticism. The scouts didn't proclaim he'd work out, all they did was their duty in evaluating his skillset.

Curious: Why did you say "no correction" and then correct it?
 

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if you don't understand that makes a difference, then you are clueless about football.
SF spent a premium pick...no correction, three premium picks to pick Lance. you exepct retrun on investment. cowboys didn't invest anything in getting Romo, yet when Romo got the chance he showed what he can do, Lance in year 4 similar to romo still needs more reps!!!

He was wrongly scouted. its not like it has never happened in NFL....I mean color me surprised!!! NOT. if people knew what we know today, he would probably fall into the 7th round, just because he can run like a RB.

and yes, year 4. 4 years of investment. 4 years of time spent on him. and yet he still makes the same fundamental mistakes. there are rookie QBs this year who have out played him!!!!! I mean shouldn't we minimally expect him to be as good as one of the rookies!!! or are there more excuses for him?

and just like clock work. as expected. can't prove your point and you point over there..."hey look at Dak!!!! "

this wasn't about Dak. had nothing to do with him. we are not comparing Dak and Lance...time for Dak to go. been saying that for a while...but then again why am I not surprised at that last comment? typical. predictable.

btw, if you are saying we made a mistake with Dak investing so much time and getting not enough. why make the same mistake again.

oh, btw, the Joneses and coaches believed in Lance so much, they opted not to pick up his 5th year option....and they have had time to evaluate!!!
Since the season did not start yet . . . I must ask Which Rookie has outplayed him?
 

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Plus Romo as an UDFA never threw 5 INTs against 3rd and 4th stringers in preseason. If he had, then he probably would have been cut from the team due to him being an UDFA. And he developed on the bench, and didn't have as many doubts or questions about whether or not he could be a true QB in the NFL. Like some many still doubt Lance could ever be. Romo throughout the years continued to get better as far a the most important QB skills goes. Compared to Lance who is still in the same spot he was 4 years ago.

And even Dak while he isn't elite and while he might not ever get the Cowboys over the playoff hump, has improved upon his footwork and throwing motion from where it was when he was a rookie. There are rookies and 2nd year QBs in the NFL right now, who will be in a far more advanced place as far as developing goes in their 4th year as a QB in the NFL than Lance is right now in his 4th year.

The difference between Romo is that he would have been cut from the team if he showed the same struggles as Lance keeps on showing. Because Romo as an UDFA wouldn't be getting so much time to prove he could be a true QB in the NFL. The only reason Lance is still viewed as having so much potential to develop into a great to elite QB is because he was drafted 3rd overall and the 49ers spent so much to get him. QBs who were drafted in the later rounds would not been given the same amount of opportunity if there was the believe that they still needed a lot more work and time to even show they could potentially be a starting QB in the NFL.

No one can really say Trey Lance hasn't been presented with opportunities to work his way up into a reliable starting QB in the NFL. He got his chances on 2 teams and for 2 years in a row, couldn't even beat out Sam Darnold or Cooper Rush for the back up spots. So far it looks like the Cowboys future QB is going to have to be done by freshly drafting one.
4 years . . . 4 years . . . 4 years. . . only 1 year older then Dak was during His rookie year
 

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If you’re willing to hitch the Cowboys’ chances for success to Trey Lance, god bless you. Jerry Jones is negotiating with Dak Prescott. Lances’s career is over. Most people know it. You’ll figure it out soon enough.
you are a joke. Lance's career is just starting but a Parrot would not be aware of this
 

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You don’t have any clue about some alleged “consensus”. That’s just your wishful thinking.

Several teams tried to trade for Lance. Nothing has changed concerning his status and no one’s knocking at “our door” because he’s not trade bait.
These Parrots spin narratives and create strawmen
 

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Let's put this in terms even Zone fans could understand - Quincy Carter was a better QB as a rookie than Lance is now and would have had a more "successful" career than Lance will ever have in the NFL. As I said earlier, Lance would not have made any other 53 man roster on any other NFL team this year. He's only on this roster because Jerruh tossed out a 4th rd pick on him.
Lets put this in terms even Zone fans could understand . . . Opinion . . . Opinion . . . Opinion . . . Conjecture
 
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