I ain't giving up on Trey Lance

[4lifecowboy]

Let's put this in terms even Zone fans could understand - Quincy Carter was a better QB as a rookie than Lance is now and would have had a more "successful" career than Lance will ever have in the NFL. As I said earlier, Lance would not have made any other 53 man roster on any other NFL team this year. He's only on this roster because Jerruh tossed out a 4th rd pick on him.

You guys are really talent blind. Talent wise Trey's physical gifts puts him in the top half of NFL QBs. I can't wait for all you guys to eat your words when he is QB1 in '25.

 

[NotForLong]

my wishful thinking? if looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, acts like a duck...its a duck.

if he was as good or could be as good, then he wouldn't be the 3rd QB on the cowboys. if he was any good, had potential, niners wouldn't trade him for a 4th after giving up three 1s to get him. if he was any good, had potential to be any good, teams would be calling cowboys to make a trade.

several teams tried...two years ago. rumor was they offered 6th rounder. idiot jerry upped it to a 4th for some reason.

keep telling yourself that stuff and you may someday actually believe part of it.

Cowboys are fortunate to have Lance

 

[NotForLong]

by that definition then 98% of QBs who ever played NFL are failures.

Jerry is an idiot, there is no denying that. but Jerry also owns the cowboys. the senile leader of cowboys has gone full Al Davis when the end was near.

Jerry went full ****** in 2016, when he ran Jimmy off and when he passed on Moss other then that He hasn't been all that bad

 

[DuncanIso]

You guys are really talent blind. Talent wise Trey's physical gifts puts him in the top half of NFL QBs. I can't wait for all you guys to eat your words when he is QB1 in '25.

It’s nice knowing we have options at QB1. 8)

it opens up the 2025 draft.

we need RB1 and RG1.

 

[kskboys]

You guys are really talent blind. Talent wise Trey's physical gifts puts him in the top half of NFL QBs. I can't wait for all you guys to eat your words when he is QB1 in '25.

While it doesn't appear likely that he'll pan out at this point, Trey's talent is top 5. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe the game will slow down for him, but to find that out he'd have to play, and play a lot, not just some spot trash time duty. They did him a huge disservice last season by playing Rush instead of him in blowouts. Which still doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

 

[kskboys]

It’s nice knowing we have options at QB1. 8)

it opens up the 2025 draft.

we need RB1 and RG1.

And NT1 even more.

 

[kskboys]

Jerry went full ****** in 2016, when he ran Jimmy off and when he passed on Moss other then that He hasn't been all that bad

Yeah, if your goal is not winning a super bowl, Jerry hasn't been all that bad.

 

[NotForLong]

Romo was UDFA. Trance is 3rd pick of the draft. see the difference?

and Romo was an exception. he went undrafted because he needed some work, not in throwing, but ability to control his impulses in making throws he shouldn't have tried. also learning to read defenses.

he sat on the bench as you said. learning...then Romo played and he was great. .

yet here we are, year 4, and even the coach said:
"He's just got to continue to develop," said McCarthy. "You can see the things he's really focused on, the concept footwork and things like that, he got better each week in the preseason. Great job extending plays with his legs. Made some plays in the quarterback run phase. Just trying to continue that dropback passing. He's making strides. The preseason, I don't know that there's anyone on our team who benefited more from the preseason than Trey Lance."

year 4 and still got to develop. still got ways to go.

and to what end? is he ever going to be elite? if he was, he would have already shown it. he would have already taken over the #2 spot, which he couldn't.
his ceiling is low and you are going gaga, drooling at the mouth for a player that at best is going to be nothing better than average.

I swear, this is getting old.

4 years . . . 4 years . . . 4 years . . . lol

Now His ceiling is low

Oh and another thing. You are the one who keeps parroting that there is no improvement yet you post a quote about the Coach claiming a ton of improvement. Very odd

 

[NotForLong]

You guys are really talent blind. Talent wise Trey's physical gifts puts him in the top half of NFL QBs. I can't wait for all you guys to eat your words when he is QB1 in '25.

exactly

 

[NotForLong]

Yeah, if your goal is not winning a super bowl, Jerry hasn't been all that bad.

1 question:
Were you on board with how Jerry handled 2016? Did you believe it was the best decision at the time?

Because I was of the belief that that team was a veteran QB away from winning it all but many here were enamored with "Locker Room Leadership" and Future Success.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

The model for hope on Lance is that he can develop on a Geno Smith type late bloom.

He's still quite young...relatively. Like one year older than Dak's rookie age? Something like that.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You guys are really talent blind. Talent wise Trey's physical gifts puts him in the top half of NFL QBs. I can't wait for all you guys to eat your words when he is QB1 in '25.

They are desperate to LOOK like and NFL expert. Can't just be a regular homer and cheer him on now can we?

 

[jazzcat22]

they are realistic. I think most trance lovers are just blind to the fact that he is just not a good NFL QB.

Or, are Trey haters blind to the fact that he can become a good, if not better, NFL QB.
That is more like it.

 

[jazzcat22]

The Trey Lance fan club are nothing more than Dak Prescott haters. We could sign Trevor Semian, Ryan Tannehill, or Kellen Mond off the street and they could probably make arguments for each one of them as to why they should start over Dak. It's really silly that anyone actually thinks Lance has shown anything so far that could help make a case for him being a starting QB in the NFL. I'm not even sure he would be a starter in the USFL. The only two things that have impressed me so far about him is his ability to run the football and his ability to keep suckering money out of NFL owners. He processes information slow and is inaccurate. The worst traits you can have for a QB in the NFL. Also, I am so tired of this narrative that he is not any good because he is not getting playing time. If the guy stinks in practice and stinks in preseason games I'm not sure what makes these guys think he is going to look good in a full speed regular season game. There are 3 reasons why Lance is on the roster: 1) Guaranteed $5 million salary, 2) Jones gave up a 4th for him thinking he could outsmart people (JJ's ego), 3) We need a 3rd QB and there probably isn't much better out on the street. Although, from what I have seen I would take Will Grier over him.

Not true. I, and other fans, still like Dak to a degree, and will support and root for him. FAN FIRST.
I stopped reading after the bold part.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

4 years . . . 4 years . . . 4 years. . . only 1 year older then Dak was during His rookie year

Dak in his rookie year got a chance to win the starting job and never took a step back. Even when he got injured and missed multiple games. So that kind of counters the argument of Trey Lance not getting reasonable chances to win the starting job back on the 49ers after he got injured. Or at the very least doing enough to keep the back up spot on the 49ers. Where he could then at least show enough in training camp/preseason to get an almost automatic starting job on another team. Without needing all of this time to show whether or not he can be a true QB in the NFL.

Also once again it can be pointed out that QBs around Lance's age who are in the NFL right now, have already shown enough promise to win the starting jobs on their team. And most of them won't be falling all the way down to 3rd string in the instances of some of them possibly getting injured and missing some time away from the field. Rookies in the NFL and QBs soon to be coming out of college over the next couple of years, will be at a far more advance place as a QB than Lance is right now. They'll show something other than just the ability to run for why there is belief they can be long time starters in the NFL.

Where as Lance's running ability is now being mentioned before his actual QB skills for why some are hoping for him to turn into this great QB. Even some in the game day preseason threads talking about how Lance needed to just run the ball when throwing the ball wasn't working out for him. As it's not a good thing to have a QB who will completely rely on his legs all of the time in place of developing and working on his passing skills.

 

[jazzcat22]

 

[jazzcat22]

Delusional. He sat and waited in HS. He sat and waited in college. Only played 1 season.

He will continue to sit and wait in the NFL and unless a team has decided to tank.

We keep hearing his HS days, as well, but I have not seen anything that he struggled. Heck, show us some proof. But many HS QB's struggle.

He sat, probably because there was a senior QB in front of him. Same for College. But this does not fit your agenda.
It is like trying to use statistics and twisting them to prove or disprove your agenda.

 

[jazzcat22]

Oh you found an article? Well by gosh....who woulda thunk it?

It is by Mac Engle, so some bias in that article.

 

[NotForLong]

Dak in his rookie year got a chance to win the starting job and never took a step back. Even when he got injured and missed multiple games. So that kind of counters the argument of Trey Lance not getting reasonable chances to win the starting job back on the 49ers after he got injured. Or at the very least doing enough to keep the back up spot on the 49ers. Where he could then at least show enough in training camp/preseason to get an almost automatic starting job on another team. Without needing all of this time to show whether or not he can be a true QB in the NFL.

Also once again it can be pointed out that QBs around Lance's age who are in the NFL right now, have already shown enough promise to win the starting jobs on their team. And most of them won't be falling all the way down to 3rd string in the instances of some of them possibly getting injured and missing some time away from the field. Rookies in the NFL and QBs soon to be coming out of college over the next couple of years, will be at a far more advance place as a QB than Lance is right now. They'll show something other than just the ability to run for why there is belief they can be long time starters in the NFL.

Where as Lance's running ability is now being mentioned before his actual QB skills for why some are hoping for him to turn into this great QB. Even some in the game day preseason threads talking about how Lance needed to just run the ball when throwing the ball wasn't working out for him. As it's not a good thing to have a QB who will completely rely on his legs all of the time in place of developing and working on his passing skills.

Blah blah blah . . . Lance is till only 1 year older then Dak his rookie year which is to say Lance is young and the 4 year mantra that is constantly parroted here is pointless.

Actually being on an NFL Roster for the past 4 years is an advantage to Lance as we have seen in the past with QB's who have sat and watched rather then those who have been thrown to the wolves

Lance is still that talent the 49ers gambled on but Jerry stole him for a 4th. The situation in Dallas is that Lance gets another year to sit and learn which is a win win for Cowboy fans and Lance's development

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Blah blah blah . . . Lance is till only 1 year older then Dak his rookie year which is to say Lance is young and the 4 year mantra that is constantly parroted here is pointless.

Actually being on an NFL Roster for the past 4 years is an advantage to Lance as we have seen in the past with QB's who have sat and watched rather then those who have been thrown to the wolves

Lance is still that talent the 49ers gambled on but Jerry stole him for a 4th. The situation in Dallas is that Lance gets another year to sit and learn which is a win win for Cowboy fans and Lance's development

NFL roster for 4 years and for 2 years in a row lost the back up spot. Most QBs who have great to elite careers in the NFL, like some believe Lance can still have. Haven't struggled to even keep the QB2 spot on an NFL roster. And didn't throw 4 or 5 INTs against 3rd and 4th stringers in preseason. Including the ones who sat for a couple of years and then went on to be top 5 to elite QBs at some point in their NFL careers.

The only and main reason some are clinging onto hope with Lance is being he was drafted 3rd overall. Doesn't matter his age, as QBs around his same age drafted lower and in the same position he is right now. Wouldn't be getting this much time to develop or show they can be a starting QB in the NFL some day. If he sits for another year and is still in the same spot as far as development goes, then what? He had a chance to step forward and at least win the QB2 spot this year. Which is would have if he really showed enough development even from last year. Yet one more year is going to show he can be a reliable starting QB for the Cowboys for the foreseeable future. And one that can get the Cowboys into the playoffs, lead the Cowboys past the 2nd round and eventually command the Cowboys to a Super Bowl win?