CFZ I am already thinking offseason

[Captain-Crash]

I'm just thinking about who gets fired at the end of the year. Who gets brought in to fix dak?

 

[Sydla]

You’re a quitter. Always have been and always will be so no surprise.

And you're a fool. Always have been and always will be so no surprise.

 

[starfan1]

to each his own Ill think about offseason when eliminated. Man some of yall taking this san fran beat down hard

 

[Captain-Crash]

 

[805BoysInBlue]

What do people not get about Dak having a no trade clause in his deal?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Good to hear you give up that easily. Certainly a quality in life to be proud of.

Can you blame the guy and by the way where have you been since 1995????

 

[PAPPYDOG]

We save 34 million on cap and we spread out the 60 million in two years.
Dak is toast...............sorry for you few Dak lovers here.
Why have they been saving that 20 million in cap?
For a rayneing Dak day...........

 

[Captain-Crash]

I hope Jerry brings Romo in to be the offensive coordinator or head coach. That would be awesome to watch their head's explode.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Keep in mind you cant trade Prescott. You are going to have to cut him unless you can get him to waive his NTC. Possible but I wouldn't count on it

I’m not sure about that. Why do you say so?

The Eagles have shown you can cut bait with a horrid contract (Wentz) and recover in short order.

I would wager good money a team like the Raiders or Commanders would be willing to take on Dak’s contract.

Yes, it would be a lot of dead money for us, but there’s additional savings by not having him in the roster (he’s due a $5M roster bonus in 2024 if he’s still on the roster the fifth day of the NFL season).

 

[Echospacing]

Season is obviously not over but I need something to occupy my time. My offseason plan (with the easily assumed fact that this team will just spit the bit again at the end like they've done for years now):

1) Dak is done. But his cap number is tricky. Ideally you'd like to trade him for even some scrap picks but his pre June 1 trade cap hit is crazy (same as his pre June 1 cut hit). Unless I am missing something, I don't think you can trade him pre June 1 and designate him a post June 1 cap hit. So I bite the bullet, don't concern myself with the scrap picks you might get and just cut him, designated June 1.

2) McCarthy is shown the door. He was a retread hire and not a very good one. What does he do well? As HC, the team is not very well coached and lacks discipline as once again they appear to be heading towards Top 10 status in penalties. And the penalties we are accumulating are mindnumbing. The pre-snap penalties are pathetic. That's coaching. What does he well as OC? Nothing. Offense is bland. For all the criticism of Dak, a quality coordinator would design an offense that gets Dak some easy throws. Watch what Shanahan is doing and how he creates the open looks for Purdy. Where is that with McCarthy? There's a reason he got run out of GB despite having Rodgers. He's repeating it again here.

3) My eye is on Shane Waldron in Seattle as the new HC. Coached under McVay in LA and now is sucking knowledge off Carroll. In his first year in Seattle he helped turn Geno Smith into an extremely competent QB. Smith's play this year hasn't fallen off that much. He seems like the perfect guy to work with Lance. Waldron is also young (44). Waldron likely is going to be a hot name this offseason so Cowboys need to strike fast. Jerry can't sit around with a thumb up his butt for a couple of weeks figuring out what to do while all the hot shot names get sucked up. Bienemy is my #2 but a lot depends on how he does in Washington this year. He doesn't have a lot to work with, especially at QB, but if he squeezes competence out of that group, I can live with him.

4) Lance is the guy in 2024. You take your lumps with Waldron working with him. You also draft a QB with one of your first 3 picks. You have to rebuild the QB room.

5) I am not as down on Quinn as some are but ideally, if you could talk him back into being DC under Waldron, I could live with that. But I could also see Waldron having his own ideas for DC and that's perfectly fine with me. I am not in love with Quinn.

Bold moves. Which means Jerry would never, ever do it, because 1) it would be outside his comfort zone, 2) he hates admitting failure and cutting Dak would be just that, 3) Waldron is likely going to have his pick of jobs, many of which will give him more control than Jerry will be willing to give up.

So basically, we are FUBAR'd.

I'm not sure Lance beats out Rush. I doubt Lance is any better than Dak. He's shown nothing to say he is better. It's more the anyone but Dak approach. I guess it's assumed that they will use Lance since they have to pay him $5.3 million year next no matter what. You are right, we are screwed.

 

[Rockport]

And you're a fool. Always have been and always will be so no surprise.

Keep gloating over the loss. You seem extremely happy about it. You and all the other haters are celebrating like you’ve won a war or something.

 

[Cowboyny]

Be careful what you wish for, remember the Dave Campo years? Dak isn't elite, but he is far better then the alternative.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I’m not sure about that. Why do you say so?

The Eagles have shown you can cut bait with a horrid contract (Wentz) and recover in short order.

I would wager good money a team like the Raiders or Commanders would be willing to take on Dak’s contract.

Yes, it would be a lot of dead money for us, but there’s additional savings by not having him in the roster (he’s due a $5M roster bonus in 2024 if he’s still on the roster the fifth day of the NFL season).

The only team that wants Dak at his current contract is the team he is currently on.
With his contract, you couldn't get a 7th rounder for him.
Dak is a mirage created by a used car salesman and we all know his name.
No trade will occur only another Zeke tale.....

 

[Sydla]

to each his own Ill think about offseason when eliminated. Man some of yall taking this san fran beat down hard

Except it's not just the San Fran beatdown. It's the continuation of problems that have plagued this franchise for years.

We keep being told that things are different, we made this change or that change to make us better, etc............ and then the results don't change. Sunday night was supposed to be the measuring stick. We found out we still are lagging behind.

 

[Sydla]

Keep gloating over the loss. You seem extremely happy about it. You and all the other haters are celebrating like you’ve won a war or something.

Thanks for proving my point.

 

[MonsterD]

Be careful what you wish for, remember the Dave Campo years? Dak isn't elite, but he is far better then the alternative.

But he might not be better than the alternative. I think that is what draws in hope for some is that there is a chance we do awful in the future but being irrelevant and mediocre for the last 7 years or so is a worse prison than that glimmer of that hope.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

No coach outside of a retread that is trying to rehab his image is going to come to Dallas. No decent coach wants to come work for Micromanagement INC.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Keep gloating over the loss. You seem extremely happy about it. You and all the other haters are celebrating like you’ve won a war or something.

 

[Sydla]

Be careful what you wish for, remember the Dave Campo years? Dak isn't elite, but he is far better then the alternative.

This kind of logic never made sense to me. It was also used to justify keeping Garrett. That while Garrett wasn't great, it could be worse.

If the guy you have has no shot to lead you to the promised land, then why in the world would you keep him even knowing there could be worse options?

If I have no faith in McCarthy at year end, I would absolutely take the risk, hire a new guy and see if he works out. It would be a no brainer move.

 

[G2]

The 49ers game changed people.