I am confused about nutrition re:Gregory

[Szczepanik]

Has it ever dawned upon you that Randy Gregory is an ectomorph,so increasing body weight is an incredibly hard task for him? With that being an ectomorph he can easily eat fast food which is extremely high in calories/proteins/fats (which yes can be put to use) without the effects of him gaining the same amount of body fat as an endormorph or mesomorph per say.

An ecto can supplement a lot of extra carbs and fats to his diet to increase his/her weight.********* Keep in mind that not only is he an ecto most likely, he is also participating in cardio/strength exercises expending a significant amount of calories per day on top of his body metabolism.*********

Try eating an extra 2k calories per day in brown rice, chicken, spinach , tilapia or broccoli and say how long you can do that.

 

[benson]

After an intense leg day I'll go to 5 guys and have 2 of their double pattie burgers with houtsauce and cheese with a jug of water, then crash out. Highly recommended.

 

[joseephuss]

But more to my point - why doesn't Jerry Jones invest $1 million a year in a team of team chefs cooking every freaking meal for their stars. Why are players left alone to their own devices to eat?? This makes no sense to me. Working out is 80% diet. So why invest millions in gym trainers and not nutrition and food??

Do you truly think $1 million would be enough to cover the cost of full time chefs preparing every meal for every player in a year?

Nutritionists can tell a player what they should be eating, but they can't force them to eat. This is nothing new and certainly isn't limited to the Cowboys. Players join the NFL and learn a lot about working out and nutrition and sometimes it takes a few seasons for all of it to catch on with the player. In many cases how a player prepares and works out going into season 4 is far different than what he did as a rookie.

 

[conner01]

Do you truly think $1 million would be enough to cover the cost of full time chefs preparing every meal for every player in a year?

Nutritionists can tell a player what they should be eating, but they can't force them to eat. This is nothing new and certainly isn't limited to the Cowboys. Players join the NFL and learn a lot about working out and nutrition and sometimes it takes a few seasons for all of it to catch on with the player. In many cases how a player prepares and works out going into season 4 is far different than what he did as a rookie.

Exactly
Nfl teams provide lots of info but it's up to the player to follow it
At his age the diet is not as big of a deal as it will be as he gets older
Obviously the kid has a tremendous metabolism that I would love to have
In time he will learn to eat better but for now I think it's no big deal
If it takes pizza and burgers to keep weight on him thru camp then feed the kid some pizza and burgers
I'm just jealous that I have to watch everything I eat to keep from getting fat lol

 

[Nightman]

I remember Marvin Harrison saying he ate nothing but fast food all the time well into his NFL career and he never gained a pound or lost a step.

Like others have said, I would imagine trying to get 1000s of extra calories from only "healthy" foods would have you shoveling pounds of spinach, kale and fish daily. Or drinking a ton of shakes. Having a green light to chow down on pizza and burgers is a dream come true for most 21 years olds.

 

[AzorAhai]

Agree. Not liking Whataburger is what worried me most. There's no accounting for taste, I suppose.

Instead of spending a million per year on in-house chefs, they should invest it in finding out if they like Whataburger. The draft boards should be updated accordingly! These are things that need to be known before investing high rd picks and sadly the Cowboys are behind the curve on this category.

 

[AzorAhai]

In seriousness, I think this is rather pointless to debate over. I seriously doubt he is on a fast food only diet. With OTAs, lifting and any training he is doing on his own, he probably needs to take in at least 4-5k calories just to maintain. If he wants to bulk up he will need to take in much more than that to gain any significant weight before the season. I see no problem with him getting 2-3k calories a day from bad food as long as he is getting the rest of his nutritional needs from the other 2-3k. If the Nutritionists that work with him daily don't have a problem with it, who am I to judge from a distance. From the looks of D. Law, I would say they deserve to be given the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

What is "low grade protein."

 

[theogt]

What is "low grade protein."

I think it refers to the cheap steaks you buy in the middle aisle freezers in the grocery store. I, for one, don't let that stuff touch my body.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I think it refers to the cheap steaks you buy in the middle aisle freezers in the grocery store. I, for one, don't let that stuff touch my body.

I can enjoy a kobe beef steak and a mcdonalds burger all the same.

I'm fortunate so I eat better than most. But sometimes you want that "fast food" taste.

 

[theogt]

I can enjoy a kobe beef steak and a mcdonalds burger all the same.

I'm fortunate so I eat better than most. But sometimes you want that "fast food" taste.

Unfortunately, I'm forced to eat at my desk often, and the closest/fastest thing to my office in walking distance is a McDonald's. Their fries are pretty much unbeatable.

 

[punchnjudy]

Don't see any mention of sundaes or milk shakes.

I know this is off topic but am I only one who craves sugar like crazy after eating fast food or anything with a ton of sodium?

 

[justbob]

wow. People argue stuff on here all the time. Because you don't like what he's saying he has to post his credentials and gets an ominous warning? Unbelievable.

Trolling is a different thing. It has doing to do with what he said ,but him calling people ignorant. A warning is better then getting benched. Question moderators is also a benchable offense.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

After an intense leg day I'll go to 5 guys and have 2 of their double pattie burgers with houtsauce and cheese with a jug of water, then crash out. Highly recommended.

BEER

 

[Garrettop]

All I know is doctors are still preaching low fat diets for cholesterol patients and still giving diabetics all kinds of "healthy carbs".

Imo, to be healthy, you should just eliminate sugar from the diet, cut out the high carb fruits and veggies, and stay away from man made fats like trans fats, seed, and vegetable oil.

Eat meat, vegetables, and nuts. Imo that is the most optimal diet and science is proving that.

Pretty much in line with both my experience and opinion. One doesn't have to eat a lot of kale and spinach to eat healthy/put on weight. There is so much real deliciousness that beats the crap out of fast food. Steaks, eggs prepared a dozen different ways, meat/rice/veggie medley hash, etc. that is 10x more healthy and will do a better job of helping with weight gain.

Most doctors that I know that are worth a damn are constantly reading medical journals, consulting with their network and more importantly know where to go to get credible science. I will take random doctor over random web poster every day and twice on Sundays.

I wouldn't advise anyone "take my word" on anything. But generally speaking doctors are too overworked to be up to date on something outside of their area of specialty, and the "general consensus" is quite behind the science curve still. Like the continued demonization of fat and cholesterol for instance.

 

[Thefeelofcotton]

Most people fail to realize that these guys have the metabolism of a bunny on cocaine. So in order togain any weight they literally ate told to eat whatever. Once they hot their target weight or actually a little above it, the nutritionist kicks in and helps them build upon what's on place.

 

[Szczepanik]

What is "low grade protein."

I guess "low grade meat protein" must breakdown into different amino acids than "high grade meat protein" ?

 

[DandyDon52]

But more to my point - why doesn't Jerry Jones invest $1 million a year in a team of team chefs cooking every freaking meal for their stars. Why are players left alone to their own devices to eat?? This makes no sense to me. Working out is 80% diet. So why invest millions in gym trainers and not nutrition and food??

Well I doubt jerry is into healthy food himself, and most people like junk food, they grow up on it , and the team does not care if it is junk food weight or not, just get the weight on. eat plenty of those FF's with the burgers and a shake or 2 lol.
Junk food is quick easy cheap and tasty , healthy food is more time consuming, more work and is only tasty if prepared right.
People like quick and easy, that is why they buy blue bell instead of making home made ice cream.

 

[jobberone]

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[jobberone]

He probably burns through so many calories that exactly how he gets them is probably close to irrelevant. He is about 240 pounds and has less than 5% body fat. The key for a guy like him is just actually making sure he gets all the calories he needs each day so his crazy metabolism doesn't result in his body leaching calories out of his muscles and nutrients out of his organs, fat and bones.

As for his micronutrients, he probably eats so many calories that he will get them no matter how bad his diet is.

IMO, diet is probably more important for those who tend to gain extra weight than for those who are underweight and have very low body fat.

On the nosey!