I am confused about nutrition re:Gregory

[CATCH17]

I'm kind of surprised at those comments too. I'm sure the Cowboys have a nutritionist and I bet they are cringing when hearing about that.

From what I have learned--

To ensure your extra weight is made of muscle, not fat, you’ll need to eat well-rounded meals and snacks, stacked with healthy foods and low on empty calories.

For example - 50 to 60 percent of your daily calories from carbohydrates, 15 to 20 percent from protein (fatty cuts of steak are best) and 25 to 30 percent from healthy fats, such as avocado, healthy oils and nuts. While protein is often considered good for getting toned, it’s important not to go overboard when trying to gain weight, because it tends to be filling and also requires a lot of energy to digest.

He should focus on healthy complex carbs like rice, whole wheat or whole grain cereals and potatoes. We digest carbs a lot easier, so those calories can be used for muscle building.

Although I like In N Out as much as anybody (it's a favorite west coast burger place if you didn't know) it's not exactly the breakfast of champions.

You can't put on muscle without adding fat to your body and you can't drop weight without losing some muscle tissue.

Unless of course you're taking hormones.

So for Randy Gregory to gain weight he only needs a certain amount of calories.

For someone that is a hard gainer it may take him 5000 calories and it's hard to imagine he could eat that much without hitting his protein requirements.

Eating "clean micro nutrient dense foods" isn't better for body composition.

You may feel better eating healthy food over junk food or you may feel no different. Especially at 21 years old.

My point is the kid just needs to do some compound weight movements and eat a lot and he'll gain muscle.

 

[Sydla]

Suddenly he stops posting after being asked to back up his opinions with his expertise in this area.

 

[AzorAhai]

I feel like whats being missed in this entire thread is Gregory stating Whataburger wasn't that good!!! After careful deliberation, you're going to have to earn your way back into my good graces now Mr. Gregory!

 

[Crown Royal]

Far too much concern about a guy with high metabolism not eating a perfectly clean bulk diet.





Not nearly enough that a new guy we want to become a franchise player hasn't embraced WhataBurger as the messiah of burger fast food. A guy who hates texas is clearly not going to be what it talks. Either someone take him to get taquitos and get his mind right, or we should cut his skinny butt.

 

[benson]

Being a medical doctor doesn't automatically privy one to special dietary knowledge. Nutritionist training is entirely different from either what either GPs or medical specialists get.

I agree about the diet thing. Calories are not just calories, although even the health 1000 or whatever class I had in college taught that crap - while still giving the obligatory nod to vegetables (somehow failing to catch the dissonance). Sure he probably isn't going to be eating steak all the time, and a few slices of pizza isn't going to dramatically affect him - but living on fast food is just bad period.Calling it "low octane" is rather generous imo.

As a first year medical student we take a course that emphasizes the biochemistry behind nutrition, while simultaneously taking a biochemistry course that emphasizes the organic chemistry of metabolism that absolutely is out of scope of any nutritionist or other lower-level health provider. I know nutritionists that literally have no idea about the deeper fundamental concepts of metabolism and that's ok, it's not their job. But to say a nutritionist knows more about nutrition than an MD is like saying a plumber knows more about the physics of bathroom pipes than an engineer.

 

[CATCH17]

I am not talking about supplements. Why do you need supplements if you are eating the right diet?

Vitamin d3 is hard to get for some people through the diet. So is omega 3s unless you eat a lot of fish.

Everyone should at least be taking those 2 unless they get a lot of sun and eat fish everyday.

 

[TX_Yid]

Wait he dissed Whataburger?

Cut that bum Now!!! How dare he? The whatachicken is a thing of beauty.

 

[Crown Royal]

Personally I want Randy Gregory focused on learning his assignments and skills. If that means he doesn't worry about becoming a PhD in nutrition at the moment, I'm fine with the trade off.

 

[Sydla]

And FWIW, this isn't that uncommon. I've read before that other players, in order to add weight or keep weight, were often given the green light to eat some "bad" food as long as they were supplementing their daily food intake with some "good" foods as well. If that's what Gregory is doing, I fail to see the issue here.

 

[5Stars]

I feel like whats being missed in this entire thread is Gregory stating Whataburger wasn't that good!!! After careful deliberation, you're going to have to earn your way back into my good graces now Mr. Gregory!

I agree...bastid. For punishment I would have Jerry fly in some Whataburgers, make him it them everyday, and see if he likes that! I liked him before he said that! Now, I'm not sure if I will root for him.

 

[justbob]

Where? You don't have lot-a-burgers in Texas. lol Oh, in NM? What you doing over there? lol

NM..... just slumming

 

[Crown Royal]

And FWIW, this isn't that uncommon. I've read before that other players, in order to add weight or keep weight, were often given the green light to eat some "bad" food as long as they were supplementing their daily food intake with some "good" foods as well. If that's what Gregory is doing, I fail to see the issue here.

If he is in the gym on time and regularly, doing his job and working hard, they will let something slide on nutrition. Much ado about nothing.

 

[Bowdown27]

Dude...when you are out in the hot Texas Sun working your butt off running, drilling, lifting, you need anything and everything you can eat just to try and replenish what you lose in just one day.

Once you reach a certain weight, not fat, but have some pounds on you, then the Cowboys nutritionist is going to help a player once the season is underway. As of now, Gregory needs to gain some weight.

Bingo. That was my thought too

 

[5Stars]

And FWIW, this isn't that uncommon. I've read before that other players, in order to add weight or keep weight, were often given the green light to eat some "bad" food as long as they were supplementing their daily food intake with some "good" foods as well. If that's what Gregory is doing, I fail to see the issue here.

Don't forget exercise. Those players don't just exercise...they get on it!

Plus, he is going to get his butt kicked in training camp! lol

 

[justbob]

Suddenly he stops posting after being asked to back up his opinions with his expertise in this area.

Sometimes people just have to wait a day before they can reply.

 

[CATCH17]

As a first year medical student we take a course that emphasizes the biochemistry behind nutrition, while simultaneously taking a biochemistry course that emphasizes the organic chemistry of metabolism that absolutely is out of scope of any nutritionist or other lower-level health provider. I know nutritionists that literally have no idea about the deeper fundamental concepts of metabolism and that's ok, it's not their job. But to say a nutritionist knows more about nutrition than an MD is like saying a plumber knows more about the physics of bathroom pipes than an engineer.

All I know is doctors are still preaching low fat diets for cholesterol patients and still giving diabetics all kinds of "healthy carbs".

Imo, to be healthy, you should just eliminate sugar from the diet, cut out the high carb fruits and veggies, and stay away from man made fats like trans fats, seed, and vegetable oil.

Eat meat, vegetables, and nuts. Imo that is the most optimal diet and science is proving that.

 

[TheDude]

http://southpark.cc.com/clips/152097/miss-information

 

[Doc50]

So? Doctor's are notorious for not knowing much about the science of nutrition. Not saying that Eskimo doesn't, just pointing out that that gives me no more confidence (maybe less) that he does.

On the contrary, those who are trying to sell you a product or nutrition system use the "doctors don't know" statement in order to get you to break from conventional science-based wisdom and buy their snake oil.

 

[theogt]

Not nearly enough that a new guy we want to become a franchise player hasn't embraced WhataBurger as the messiah of burger fast food. A guy who hates texas is clearly not going to be what it talks. Either someone take him to get taquitos and get his mind right, or we should cut his skinny butt.

Agree. Not liking Whataburger is what worried me most. There's no accounting for taste, I suppose.

 

[adbutcher]

5 guys>Whataburger>In-N-Out Burger

fixed....