I am sick of one side officiating

speedkilz88

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You have no idea what you're talking about. That didn't happ .....

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That was early in the route and had nothing to do with the penalty called. The penalty was pass interference, not holding.
 

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I am a Skins fan, so I have an obvious bias in this, but my main question is why would the league be more inclined to give the Skins the win vs Dallas. Let's be honest, neither owner is Mara or overly beloved, I would argue Snyder is hated more by the league than JJ, but probably not by much. Remember when we were the two teams that suffered the no cap cap penalties?

Further, wouldn't the league rather see Dallas win that game, that would have been the preferred drama filled outcome of Dallas at 4-3, Skins at 3-3, and Eagles at 3-4?

I think the refs are inept at times and in cases like Brady, Rogers, even Cousins in Minnesota, they have their favorite sons. I just don't think the Skins have been anybody's favorite sons since Snyder bought them.
 

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That was early in the route and had nothing to do with the penalty called. The penalty was pass interference, not holding.

That wasn't the poster's point. He said that when this play gets discussed, the no-call of this holding is conveniently forgotten as illustrated by everyone complaining about what wasn't called on the play against Pettigrew.
 

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@percyhoward posted the numbers.

This was in a million threads last year.
He saw them them changed the subject with one of his sarcastic attacks with lots of all caps and tough text.

He lost that as he lost the Dez catch thread. Its pretty much the only things I see him discuss. Refs and why questioning them and their decisions is wrong.
 

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I am a Skins fan, so I have an obvious bias in this, but my main question is why would the league be more inclined to give the Skins the win vs Dallas.

Sharing the misery?

Kidding, I agree most calls even out and I'm not offering a theory about ths game on Sunday. But you have to wonder. Also if you look at the blatantly bad calls there is a huge bias of them toward keeping games close so that viewers tune and advertising revenue stays high.

For this game it could be about keeping the division close all the way till the end of the season, but that's purely a WAG on my part. The snap penalty was insane however.
 

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The refs always find some cockamamie penalty to call against us. Or some unheard-of rule interpretation
 
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The calls do even out over time but sometimes the timing of calls is so perfectly timed to get an outcome that you have to wonder.

And last year you will never convince me that it was a fluke that holding calls on Dallas opponents completely stopped for 8 weeks when Jerry challenged Goodell's contract extension and the started again once the issue was resolved - something that statistically has only happened twice in NFL history - and its just a coincidence.
Exactly, it is not penalty for penalty. Within the NFL, it's all about the timing of the penalty. At key points in the game. You can even call 2-1 ratio of penalties over the Cowboys and still have the ones that came at crucial times matter fifteen times more. Cowboys are always hit with those game changing timed penalties.
 

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No one's talking about just one call, it's obvious calls you don't even have to look for that are missed against the opposition. And if you really want to bring up the Lions game Pettigrew was holding Hitchens prior to his run in. And if Pettigrew stopped for the badly underthrown ball it's PI, but he kept running. Go watch the replay, have fun.

Here is the complete 1-on-1 battle from different angles (it hasn't been loading recently but hopefully soon). Pettigrew did not hold Hitchens. It was Hitchens that held as I showed in that still photo earlier. Pettigrew pushed off and as he opened his arms to receive the pass, Hitchens clearly shoves Pettigrew's right shoulder before the ball arrives. That's interference. At worst it's offsetting penalties and re-play 3rd Down. The officials called the PI, announced it, then conferred, picked up the flag and kept going. The broadcast announcers said that there was never an announcement that the flag was being picked up but if you listen to the game itself, they did make an announcement but you couldn't hear what it was because the broadcast announcers were yapping and they too missed it.

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He saw them them changed the subject with one of his sarcastic attacks with lots of all caps and tough text.

He lost that as he lost the Dez catch thread. Its pretty much the only things I see him discuss. Refs and why questioning them and their decisions is wrong.

I've never seen any stats on the no calls on holding. And because I do remember the Dez no-catch debates I hope they're from an independent source and not something "creatively" put together to encourage fan "outrage." I'm interested though.

As for your saltiness over the Dez no-catch, those are the musings of one who loses a debate and has to convince themselves otherwise to save face, although you could hardly even have been considered a participant by just parroting what others had already stated. I proved everything and answered everything. It's the catch theorists who still haven't answered the questions that disprove their false CONSPIRACY! theories. I call them my Kryptonite questions because the other side's got nothin' when I ask them. But continue projecting about changing the subject. I don't do that. The fact that you and some of the other catch theorists still harbor animosity towards me and try to take shots months after those silly debates speaks volumes. Please tend to that wounding and heal, my brother.
 

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Here is the complete 1-on-1 battle from different angles (it hasn't been loading recently but hopefully soon). Pettigrew did not hold Hitchens. It was Hitchens that held as I showed in that still photo earlier. Pettigrew pushed off and as he opened his arms to receive the pass, Hitchens clearly shoves Pettigrew's right shoulder before the ball arrives. That's interference. At worst it's offsetting penalties and re-play 3rd Down. The officials called the PI, announced it, then conferred, picked up the flag and kept going. The broadcast announcers said that there was never an announcement that the flag was being picked up but if you listen to the game itself, they did make an announcement but you couldn't hear what it was because the broadcast announcers were yapping and they too missed it.

Maybe this site works better:

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Jesus, some of you guys are so ridiculous. One of these games I’ll watch with a pen and paper and document every time a Cowboy commits a penalty and it’s not called. It happens every game and on every play for both teams. We got a ticky tac penalty that may or may not have cost us the game, it happens to every team and we’ve been on the good and bad side.

Anyone remember the Detroit game before playing GB? Please don’t try to argue that Hitchens didn’t commit PI, multiple flags were thrown and picked up and that Dez shouldn’t have been flagged for running on the field with his helmet off and argued with officials. And yes, I’m well aware of the rules and Suh but 99.9% of the time that would have been a penalty. If it happened to us, some of you would be screaming your heads off and still talking about it today (like the Dez non catch).

Please just acknowledge that the officiating sucks league wide and there is no conspiracy.

don't get your panties in a knot, the NFL got us back the next week with the Dez catch, and then got us again in 2016 with the Brice Butler penalty that hadn't been called in 35 years
 

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First of all, I do complain about the refs, they suck. Not just against us, but far too often they call silly penalties at important junctures that really favor one team over another. For instance, it is convenient that in desperate moments, GB seems to get a favorable flag. Of course, in the Minn game, the opposite happened, they got screwed by a bogus roughing the passer call that took away a victory.

Second, the Dallas offense is pathetic. They are too off and on. They really hurt our chances of winning any road game. Thankfully we have a very good defense, especially in the red zone. Heck, the only TD the D gave up, their was a huge clip not called. They bend, but rarely break.

Third, you are a disrespectful individual. Telling other posters to shut up and throwing out insults like a typical child. Then, you go to the old internet tough guy line. Classicly lame. I did not insult you, call you names, or try to censor your opinion. I am actually a very respectful poster, you on the other hand are not. I don't care if you dislike or disagree with my opinion, but istead of insults, maybe try a civil discourse. Maybe give counter opinions, so we can have a grown up conversation. Afterall most of us are fans of the Cowboys.

I was being playfully sarcastic. I apologize if that came off wrong. The "make me" line was a little off base.

the Oline on the road has been absolutely horrid. Zeke gets shut down and Dak is running for his life. At home the Oline plays well and we ball and Dak and Zeke play well. Its a pretty simple formula. It all comes down to the Oline and their play. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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