I believe in Garrett

[CowboyStar88]

A team can't win constantly changing head coaches. I'm willing to give Garrett the benefit of the doubt and give him more time. If I had my druthers I would make a change in the front office. That's the real issue with this franchise.

I listened to that Q&A from the other day and I came away thinking he sounds confident and relaxed. Def not a guy worried about his job. I think he is in for a good season

 

[visionary]

Where is the supplication emoticon when I need it?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

His cheerleading skills should prove impressive this year.

Remember that time you said the offense had gotten worse every year since he took over as coach and I provided statistics to the contrary and you never responded?

Yeah that was fun.

 

[perrykemp]

Currently I'd rank him in the bottom third of coaches in the NFL, however, I believe he still has time to turn it around. It has to happen this year however -- despite any and all hardships that come his way.

Everything is in place for him to succeed this season -- it's time for him to seize the day.

 

[Doomsday101]

I believe Garrett can get the job done in Dallas but I do think this is the fork in the road season for him. This team has to produce and if not I think it will be very hard for Jerry to bring Jason back.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I don't know what it is and it may sound foolish after vigorously calling for him to be fired but I just have this gut feeling that Jason Garrett is going to take us places this season, he seems confident and eager for success. I don't have any cold hard statistics or momentum to prove it but as made famous by Friday Night Lights "Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can't Lose" and I think that he will have this team playing with their hearts this season, maybe I'm wrong but I've learned to go with my gut.

Garrett was never in control of the defense and is now no longer in control of the offense. And we already know that he isn't in charge of personnel. So I am not too sure why you would choose to pick THIS year after his responsibility has been lessoned as the time to come out and declare that he will be taking us anywhere. If this team all of a sudden takes the next step, it will be obvious to me that it is because of less Garrett.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You may be right but I feel as though Garrett has begun to grow into the role, he's beginning to have a presence about him.

I do agree that Garrett looks more happy and care free. He clearly could not handle being both the OC and head coach. And the team was hurt the last two years because of his ineptitude. Its sad that it took Jerry jones coming in and forcing big changes. Some will cry that this wasn't the case, but its obvious that it was. Garrett can act all he wants that it was all part of his plan and he agreed to it, but he didn't want to give up the play calling.

The fact remains that Garrett is a work in progress and was a mistake as a head coach. Simply for the fact that we have wasted two years already and the two more prime years of our core stars watching him learn the ropes. How many more years will be wasted who can tell. Another bad hire by Jerry Jones. Going out and brining in a qualified, real head coach with experience could have easily been done. I have seen NOTHING from Garrett to indicate he is some total stud coach in the making. He is not a great team builder, motivator, or evaluator of talent. And he certainly doesn't have Jones ear as it appears he has lost his confidence. And we have all seen first hand that what was supposed to be his bread and butter, the offense, he was not good at. Sorry, but a genius he is not.

He does seem to have an affinity for politics. Maybe staying out of the way, talking to the media, and acting like this was all his grand plan is something he can be good at. We can only hope. But keep him away from game day on both sides of the ball and don't let him pick the players. And that's pretty sad when you want Jerry Jones to pick the players over someone else.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I believe Garrett can get the job done in Dallas but I do think this is the fork in the road season for him. This team has to produce and if not I think it will be very hard for Jerry to bring Jason back.

What does "getting the job done mean"?

I don't want someone that may be able to get the job done. This is Dallas. Give me one of the best coaches in the industry that has proven to be just that. We aren't the Arizona Cardinals or the Carolina Panthers for heavens sake.

 

[gmoney112]

What does "getting the job done mean"?

I don't want someone that may be able to get the job done. This is Dallas. Give me one of the best coaches in the industry that has proven to be just that. We aren't the Arizona Cardinals or the Carolina Panthers for heavens sake.

Did Jason steal your girlfriend or something? You post things that are blatantly incorrect and viewed as much by even the most anti-Garrett constituents of this forum but whatever floats your boat. Nobody wants to spend time rebunking the ridiculous fallacies you've conjured up because you refuse to acknowledge even the easily recognizable accomplishments of Jason. Go troll somewhere else.

The thing I like most about Jason is he knows what it takes to succeed in the NFL and he strikes me as a meticulous man when correcting his own faults. Was he an inexperienced head coach at the time of his appointment? Sure. However, every year under his tenure we have become a better football team and I believe, undoubtedly, he has viewed his own shortcomings as head coach in the previous two years in an attempt to improve himself.

We've drafted much better since his installment. I hear certain posters say "Well, he isn't in charge of player personnel". Even Bill Parcells said in a recent interview that Jerry listens to his coaches. Jason is a great communicator and has Jerry's ear. If you do not believe Jason is not directly responsible for the improved drafting, which has coincidentally occurred since he was head coach, then I can confidently say you have no idea what you're talking about. Plain and simple.

The coaching has gone from what I consider an average group, to one of the best in the NFL. Garrett's an intelligent man and follows the route the intelligent CEO's follow. Surround yourself with the best managers you can afford. Kiffin, Marinelli, Callahan, Woicik; their accomplishments cannot be denied by even the most staunch haters. Keeping Eberflus and Henderson from Ryan was a steal. We also managed to maintain Jimmy Robinson as an offensive consultant. Pollack bringing his Texans ZBS. Not too hot on Dooley but Dez seems to be evolving. Hell, we even brought Leon Lett in to help coach the d-line. What's not to like about this staff?

Some will point to our 8-8 record last year to say we did not improve from the previous year and I will disagree with that. Anytime you're running a complicated scheme, you lose a couple of your best defensive starters, and you're having to sign multiple street free agents to start on game day, you're going to suffer for it. And yet we still were in it until the last game of the season.

That's coaching.

 

[Doomsday101]

What does "getting the job done mean"?

I don't want someone that may be able to get the job done. This is Dallas. Give me one of the best coaches in the industry that has proven to be just that. We aren't the Arizona Cardinals or the Carolina Panthers for heavens sake.

Getting the job does is a HC who can get his team into post season on a consistent bases and who gives his team a chance to compete for Championships. As for give me the best coach? if a coach is the best right now then he already has a job. I think Garrett is a fine young HC but like any HC he has to push his team to the top. This is Dallas what does that mean? Cowboys are an NFL team and fans need to get off living in the past.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Getting the job does is a HC who can get his team into post season on a consistent bases and who gives his team a chance to compete for Championships. As for give me the best coach? if a coach is the best right now then he already has a job. I think Garrett is a fine young HC but like any HC he has to push his team to the top. This is Dallas what does that mean? Cowboys are an NFL team and fans need to get off living in the past.

Ok, well he hasn't shown that ability thus far. He hasn't even had a winning season yet. I simply don't understand the fans that watch Garrett and his line of work and give him the benefit of the doubt. Why? For what reason? Why give anyone the benefit of the doubt. Either they get the job done or they don't, end of story. Hoping or wishing is one thing, but basing an analysis on that isn't rational. Garrett was unqualified when he was hired as an OC and as a HC and its shown up in that way. We are not a farm system for coaches to get up to speed in the NFL and gain experience.

 

[burmafrd]

Ok, well he hasn't shown that ability thus far. He hasn't even had a winning season yet. I simply don't understand the fans that watch Garrett and his line of work and give him the benefit of the doubt. Why? For what reason? Why give anyone the benefit of the doubt. Either they get the job done or they don't, end of story. Hoping or wishing is one thing, but basing an analysis on that isn't rational. Garrett was unqualified when he was hired as an OC and as a HC and its shown up in that way. We are not a farm system for coaches to get up to speed in the NFL and gain experience.

exactly. Until this so called 'process' gets us wins and playoffs then it means NOTHING.

 

[CowboyRoy]

exactly. Until this so called 'process' gets us wins and playoffs then it means NOTHING.

Bottom line is that we have had enough talent to make the playoffs the last two years and we haven't. And I believe this team is getting better. They are slowly shoring up the line, albeit slowly. Skill position players are off the charts. Defense has loads of talent right now. This team should no doubt make the playoffs. I don't see Garrett coaching this team up. In fact, I have seen a team that has underachieved. And I feel some of that has had to do with his lack ability to properly coach. Granted injuries and a bad Oline are my two biggest reasons why, but his coaching and inability to handle both jobs is #3. Clearly this team has executed poorly, been penalty happy under his watch. And we all know about his in game blunders, play calling with holes, poor game planning, and poor in game adjustments. I have seen very little so far that has led me to believe he can be one of the greats. And obviously Jones has his doubts too seeing as though he came in and made big changes to both sides of the ball and who controls them after another disappointing season.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Did Jason steal your girlfriend or something? You post things that are blatantly incorrect and viewed as much by even the most anti-Garrett constituents of this forum but whatever floats your boat. Nobody wants to spend time rebunking the ridiculous fallacies you've conjured up because you refuse to acknowledge even the easily recognizable accomplishments of Jason. Go troll somewhere else.

The thing I like most about Jason is he knows what it takes to succeed in the NFL and he strikes me as a meticulous man when correcting his own faults. Was he an inexperienced head coach at the time of his appointment? Sure. However, every year under his tenure we have become a better football team and I believe, undoubtedly, he has viewed his own shortcomings as head coach in the previous two years in an attempt to improve himself.

We've drafted much better since his installment. I hear certain posters say "Well, he isn't in charge of player personnel". Even Bill Parcells said in a recent interview that Jerry listens to his coaches. Jason is a great communicator and has Jerry's ear. If you do not believe Jason is not directly responsible for the improved drafting, which has coincidentally occurred since he was head coach, then I can confidently say you have no idea what you're talking about. Plain and simple.

The coaching has gone from what I consider an average group, to one of the best in the NFL. Garrett's an intelligent man and follows the route the intelligent CEO's follow. Surround yourself with the best managers you can afford. Kiffin, Marinelli, Callahan, Woicik; their accomplishments cannot be denied by even the most staunch haters. Keeping Eberflus and Henderson from Ryan was a steal. We also managed to maintain Jimmy Robinson as an offensive consultant. Pollack bringing his Texans ZBS. Not too hot on Dooley but Dez seems to be evolving. Hell, we even brought Leon Lett in to help coach the d-line. What's not to like about this staff?

Some will point to our 8-8 record last year to say we did not improve from the previous year and I will disagree with that. Anytime you're running a complicated scheme, you lose a couple of your best defensive starters, and you're having to sign multiple street free agents to start on game day, you're going to suffer for it. And yet we still were in it until the last game of the season.

That's coaching.

The thing I like most about Jason is he knows what it takes to succeed in the NFL (Where are you coming up with this? Based on what?) and he strikes me as a meticulous man when correcting his own faults. Was he an inexperienced head coach at the time of his appointment? Sure. However, every year under his tenure we have become a better football team ( Really? 8-8 and 8-8? How do you figure we have become better?) and I believe, undoubtedly, he has viewed his own shortcomings as head coach in the previous two years in an attempt to improve himself.

The coaching has gone from what I consider an average group, to one of the best in the NFL. Garrett's an intelligent man and follows the route the intelligent CEO's follow. Surround yourself with the best managers you can afford. Kiffin, Marinelli, Callahan, Woicik; their accomplishments cannot be denied by even the most staunch haters. Keeping Eberflus and Henderson from Ryan was a steal. We also managed to maintain Jimmy Robinson as an offensive consultant. Pollack bringing his Texans ZBS. Not too hot on Dooley but Dez seems to be evolving. Hell, we even brought Leon Lett in to help coach the d-line. What's not to like about this staff?

You have to be joking with this nonsense. Jones came in, made him fire his handpicked coordinator and made him give up play calling. And for you to claim that my theory is false and your is true is hogwash. If I don't know for sure, then neither do you. However, if you were paying attention, its all clear and plain as day exactly what happened. I suppose your also going to tell me that it was Garretts idea to fire his own brother too?

Jones has now surrounded Garrett with great coaches and made sure that they are in control of the offense and defense and Garrett no longer is.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Did Jason steal your girlfriend or something? You post things that are blatantly incorrect and viewed as much by even the most anti-Garrett constituents of this forum but whatever floats your boat. Nobody wants to spend time rebunking the ridiculous fallacies you've conjured up because you refuse to acknowledge even the easily recognizable accomplishments of Jason. Go troll somewhere else.

The thing I like most about Jason is he knows what it takes to succeed in the NFL and he strikes me as a meticulous man when correcting his own faults. Was he an inexperienced head coach at the time of his appointment? Sure. However, every year under his tenure we have become a better football team and I believe, undoubtedly, he has viewed his own shortcomings as head coach in the previous two years in an attempt to improve himself.

We've drafted much better since his installment. I hear certain posters say "Well, he isn't in charge of player personnel". Even Bill Parcells said in a recent interview that Jerry listens to his coaches. Jason is a great communicator and has Jerry's ear. If you do not believe Jason is not directly responsible for the improved drafting, which has coincidentally occurred since he was head coach, then I can confidently say you have no idea what you're talking about. Plain and simple.

The coaching has gone from what I consider an average group, to one of the best in the NFL. Garrett's an intelligent man and follows the route the intelligent CEO's follow. Surround yourself with the best managers you can afford. Kiffin, Marinelli, Callahan, Woicik; their accomplishments cannot be denied by even the most staunch haters. Keeping Eberflus and Henderson from Ryan was a steal. We also managed to maintain Jimmy Robinson as an offensive consultant. Pollack bringing his Texans ZBS. Not too hot on Dooley but Dez seems to be evolving. Hell, we even brought Leon Lett in to help coach the d-line. What's not to like about this staff?

Some will point to our 8-8 record last year to say we did not improve from the previous year and I will disagree with that. Anytime you're running a complicated scheme, you lose a couple of your best defensive starters, and you're having to sign multiple street free agents to start on game day, you're going to suffer for it. And yet we still were in it until the last game of the season.

That's coaching.

Since when is a team slowly improving something miraculous or newsworthy? Woopdie do, were improving slowly, but it doesn't show up on the field. Wow, stud coach in the making for sure. Sorry, give me Cowher or Gruden or someone that has proven he can win championships. If you are going to sit here and honestly tell me that you would take Garrett over either one of those coaches, then you really are kidding yourself.

Do you realizes that the core of this team is getting old? In three years, Romo, Ware, Ratliff, Witten, will all be toast. And what has Garrett done in his 3 offseason to get a young talented QB in here? He is all but completely avoided developing the next QB. We are wasting away the last good years of some of our biggest stars. Romo will fade and then its really rebuilding with a rookie QB. IF Garrett had any sense he would start grooming a QB now.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Did Jason steal your girlfriend or something? You post things that are blatantly incorrect and viewed as much by even the most anti-Garrett constituents of this forum but whatever floats your boat. Nobody wants to spend time rebunking the ridiculous fallacies you've conjured up because you refuse to acknowledge even the easily recognizable accomplishments of Jason. Go troll somewhere else.

The thing I like most about Jason is he knows what it takes to succeed in the NFL and he strikes me as a meticulous man when correcting his own faults. Was he an inexperienced head coach at the time of his appointment? Sure. However, every year under his tenure we have become a better football team and I believe, undoubtedly, he has viewed his own shortcomings as head coach in the previous two years in an attempt to improve himself.

We've drafted much better since his installment. I hear certain posters say "Well, he isn't in charge of player personnel". Even Bill Parcells said in a recent interview that Jerry listens to his coaches. Jason is a great communicator and has Jerry's ear. If you do not believe Jason is not directly responsible for the improved drafting, which has coincidentally occurred since he was head coach, then I can confidently say you have no idea what you're talking about. Plain and simple.

The coaching has gone from what I consider an average group, to one of the best in the NFL. Garrett's an intelligent man and follows the route the intelligent CEO's follow. Surround yourself with the best managers you can afford. Kiffin, Marinelli, Callahan, Woicik; their accomplishments cannot be denied by even the most staunch haters. Keeping Eberflus and Henderson from Ryan was a steal. We also managed to maintain Jimmy Robinson as an offensive consultant. Pollack bringing his Texans ZBS. Not too hot on Dooley but Dez seems to be evolving. Hell, we even brought Leon Lett in to help coach the d-line. What's not to like about this staff?

Some will point to our 8-8 record last year to say we did not improve from the previous year and I will disagree with that. Anytime you're running a complicated scheme, you lose a couple of your best defensive starters, and you're having to sign multiple street free agents to start on game day, you're going to suffer for it. And yet we still were in it until the last game of the season.

That's coaching.

Who are our two best players on offense and defense? Sean Lee and Dez Bryant. Both of them drafted under Wades tenure. Go through all three drafts under Garretts watch one by one. I see nothing spectacular in any of them. Again, you seemed like a beaten down Cowboy fan that is happy simply to see mild improvement and average to passable drafts. And again, you are kidding yourself if you think that Garrett is heavily involved in the draft. The scouting department and the Joneses handle the draft. And the one time we saw Garrett lobbying for a draft pick it was him telling Jones to draft Felix Jones with a first round pick. A horrid bust to say the least.

 

[Doomsday101]

Ok, well he hasn't shown that ability thus far. He hasn't even had a winning season yet. I simply don't understand the fans that watch Garrett and his line of work and give him the benefit of the doubt. Why? For what reason? Why give anyone the benefit of the doubt. Either they get the job done or they don't, end of story. Hoping or wishing is one thing, but basing an analysis on that isn't rational. Garrett was unqualified when he was hired as an OC and as a HC and its shown up in that way. We are not a farm system for coaches to get up to speed in the NFL and gain experience.

I have mentioned many times no matter who the Cowboys hire I will give that man 3 years as HC to get things turned around. This is Garrett 3rd full season as the HC and he has to step up to the challenge and get it done. I hold him in no higher regards as I would any other HC who is brought in nor will I give him less. This is not benefit of the doubt it is giving a person a legit shot to do the job.

 

[jobberone]

Garrett is the same coach he has always been and that's average at BEST. You are seeing the results of better coaches and better players around him. He hasn't done a damn thing.

That's what good HCs do. They get players and coaches together who can give you wins. You can only get so much out of schemes and coaching. You need players.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I have mentioned many times no matter who the Cowboys hire I will give that man 3 years as HC to get things turned around. This is Garrett 3rd full season as the HC and he has to step up to the challenge and get it done. I hold him in no higher regards as I would any other HC who is brought in nor will I give him less. This is not benefit of the doubt it is giving a person a legit shot to do the job.

Understood, but a couple things. I didn't like garret as an oc. This isn't a guy coming in we have no experience with. And I certainly thought he was a bad choice for a head coach. And the reasons I thought he was a bad choice have all came to the forefront.

I just don't understand this three year thing. Are you giving him a pass on blundering for three years.. Why not make judgements based on what you see now? Up to this point garret has been a disappointment. Is there problem in acknowledging that or admitting that?

 

[CowboyRoy]

That's what good HCs do. They get players and coaches together who can give you wins. You can only get so much out of schemes and coaching. You need players.

Most of the coaches Garrett brought in when he first got here are gone. First round was a failure. Now it's onto round two. Which was initializes by Jerry jones. And arguably forced by jones.