I do not see any difference between that play and the Dez play in 2014 *merged*

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  1. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    This is one they won’t be able to pin on Blandino. Lol
     
  2. MarcusRock

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    I knew it would be here too. But as the review was going on I said it was a catch in the game thread and even said why. I knew it wouldn't matter just like it doesn't now even though I'm saying the same things, lol.
     
  3. MarcusRock

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    They'll blame it on Steratore because he was the same referee in the Dez no-catch game. They'll forget all about him helping us in Oakland, lol.
     
  4. TexasFrog

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    If you think that catch was like Dez you are a homer s d dead wrong. Ertz literally catches it upright, runs 4 steps and is a runner crossing the plain. Dez catches it while falling forward lands and the ball pops up. Do I think Dez caught it..yes. But not similar at all
     
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  5. robertfchew

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    ask these clowns here and they say let it go. NO this proves the nfl is full of fecal matter. I firmly believe this was the last slap in the face to jerry. What else could it be? The eagles are a tiny fan base and the entire game is a huge step towards the nfl admitting they are fixed. it can't be any more obvious
     
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  6. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    I also said it looked like a catch in the game chat because it appeared he established himself as a runner. He was in control of his body as he was running before he lunged to the endzone.
     
  7. robertfchew

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    its not about him not liking him not liking Dallas its him being incompetent and a puppet.
     
  8. MarcusRock

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    LOL. You think this had to do with Jerry? Haha.
     
  9. Nightman

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    Foles catch was a blatant Illegal Formation............ only 6 on the line

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  10. MarcusRock

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    Absolutely. That's it in a nutshell. Not even close to being the same as the Dez play.
     
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  11. robertfchew

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    watch it again. both would be catches had nfl not set precedent that it wasn't a catch. stop trying to be "impartial" the dez overrule was bs and this being upheld was even worse because they already screwed up another playoff series
     
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  12. Cowboysheelsreds053

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    This! they had not stopped a pegged leg Mr. state farm all game and all of a sudden they were with the game on the line?
     
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  13. KJJ

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    Rarely have I seen anyone blame Steratore for that play. Blandino’s the one who’s received all the bashing. There’s idiots who think Steratore thought it was a catch but that he went along with Blandino who didn’t.
     
  14. robertfchew

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    I wish I knew the rules this well. can anyone confirm?
     
  15. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    It’s going to be impossible trying to convince anyone of that here. Like I said this thread could get pretty nasty.
     
  16. Nightman

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    Dez was a catch .....ruled a catch ............overturned
    JJames was a catch...... ruled a catch.........overturned
    Ertz was a catch........ruled a catch ..............upheld*

    * only difference
     
  17. Soth

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    This was the rule for the 2014 season:
    A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) if a player, who is inbounds: a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and c) maintains control of the ball long enough, after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, to enable him to perform any act common to the game (i.e., maintaining control long enough to pitch it, pass it, advance with it, or avoid or ward off an opponent, etc.).

    It doesn't say anywhere that he needs to be a runner. So let's see: a) secures control - check, b) touches ground inbounds - check, c) maintains control long "enough". Ok this last one is subjective. The fact that you say it was a "clear" no catch means you don't know what you are talking about or you are clearly biased. This stuff is incredibly subjective. What is enough? What is a common act to the game?

    Did you ever read the original rule? It doesn't say you need to be a runner, or take a certain amount of steps. You just need to maintain control long enough, that's it. And one way to show you maintained control is to advance the ball. Dez clearly did that. I just watched in slow motion on youtube and I don't see how anyone can say Dez didn't reach for the end zone. In no place does the rule say you have to be a runner and lunge forward.

    At the end of the day, it was all about the ref deciding whether Dez's attempt to reach for the end zone was "enough". I think most of us would agree that if the refs had called that a catch nobody would have complained. He could have said, Dez gained control inbounds and then reached for the end zone which is an act common to the game.

    The rule is different now, so it is hard to compare the Ertz catch vs Dez's catch. I agree that Ertz's lunge is more of a football move than Dez's reach. That doesn't mean Dez's catch was not a catch.
     
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  18. TexasFrog

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    Not trying to be anything. Both plays were completely different. Plain and simple. Any comparison is as attempt to whine. Both were catches to me but only because with Dez the rule sucks
     
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  19. robertfchew

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    so why ever call any penalty? why even have refs? just let the game go and see what happens
     
  20. MarcusRock

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    Do they think Pereira played along too? Because he agreed with both of them on the broadcast. Conspiracy is thrown around way too leisurely. Never need actual proof, so why not?
     

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