I don't like our draft so far

[zrinkill]

Even Elliott will be a small difference maker.

I do not agree

 

[TwoDeep3]

I do not agree

In the big scheme of a Super Bowl bid. You see the intent of the defense only crowd is this team was on the cusp in 2014 and even without Murray, a little defense will out them in the NFC Championship game. Now while I agree Elliott will make a huge difference in offense, that won't change the team to a contender immediately.

But the debate is about why Smith, and my answer is Jerry sees this as a multili-year plan to get to the Super Bowl.

Ignoring his aged quarterback.

But what will be the really amusing aspect to all this is next year when Jerry moves heaven and earth to get his quarterback in the draft and these same guys will be again at the castle door with pitch forks and brandishing torches.

 

[zrinkill]

In the big scheme of a Super Bowl bid. You see the intent of the defense only crowd is this team was on the cusp in 2014 and even without Murray, a little defense will out them in the NFC Championship game. Now while I agree Elliott will make a huge difference in offense, that won't change the team to a contender immediately.

But the debate is about why Smith, and my answer is Jerry sees this as a multili-year plan to get to the Super Bowl.

Ignoring his aged quarterback.

But what will be the really amusing aspect to all this is next year when Jerry moves heaven and earth to get his quarterback in the draft and these same guys will be again at the castle door with pitch forks and brandishing torches.

Ok ....... I agree with that

You did what no one thought was possible at cowboyszone ....... you got your point across in a prepared and informative answer.

 

[khiladi]

Zeke might be better. But if you presume that it's guarantied you are a fool.

McFadden was also drafted 1st round, 4th overall....and posted a much faster 40 time (4.33) at the combine. McFadden was viewed as a sure-thing, elite. Can't miss.

Don't get me wrong...I certainly expect Zeke Elliott will be better, but it's 50-50 the gap between him and what we already have will be substantial.

I don't really watch college football, but from what I've seen on the tape, Zeke is pretty damn good in space and moving in-between tackles. McFadden is more a straight-line runner that needs time to get going.

This will definitely help in the red-zone, if anything at all. It's not going to help the play-calling perspective though, if we don't rely on play-action as a staple. We've ran well in the past and failed to utilize it. Any defense can zone in on predictability.

 

[fortdick]

Did you miss the part last year where he had 3 rushing tds? Have you seen how many Tds Elliot had?

How about those 3rd and shorts?

How many TD's did Elliott have in the NFL last year? With the QB play we had last year, DMC would have had to run 40 yards for a TD.

How much production do you expect to get from Elliott?

Don't get me wrong, the pick was good if you look out to 2017. I just don't think it will make a huge difference this year.

Same goes with picking Smith in the second. I believe we really needed a LB, but I believed Jack was the better risk. I trust the FO to have done their homework on Smith and believe he will be a solid, if not great, player for us.

 

[Craig]

Yeah i doubt that elliott provides a huge upgrade at rb in 2016. Its nice to have another guy that can help keep it easier to keep romo upright while not having to worry about rb again for several years, barring injury of course. The Smith pick made me understand the Elliott pick a lot more. The logic is that they really do see romos window as several years right now.

 

[jnday]

yes...but that didn't stop Denver from building a defense. nor the seahawks.....and they didn't give up many....that's why pass rushers and CBs are at a premium. and as you said the game is skewed towards passing game...then why draft a RB?

You draft a running back to limit the defense from being exposed snd from being on the field too long. If Dallas controls the TOP snd has long craves that result is scores , the opposing offense has no choice but to try to score quickly to catch up. It is much easier to defend against an offense when you know what they are going to do . Getting the ball run down your throat seems to have a way of breaking another team's will as well.

 

[dallasdave]

You draft a running back to limit the defense from being exposed snd from being on the field too long. If Dallas controls the TOP snd has long craves that result is scores , the opposing offense has no choice but to try to score quickly to catch up. It is much easier to defend against an offense when you know what they are going to do . Getting the ball run down your throat seems to have a way of breaking another team's will as well.

 

[jnday]

Yeah i doubt that elliott provides a huge upgrade at rb in 2016. Its nice to have another guy that can help keep it easier to keep romo upright while not having to worry about rb again for several years, barring injury of course. The Smith pick made me understand the Elliott pick a lot more. The logic is that they really do see romos window as several years right now.

Are you kidding? Zeke is a day one upgrade over DMsc or Morris. Both of those RBs are on the downside of their careers .

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Elliott's college performance was well ahead of Adrian Peterson's, yet somehow people think he is a ham and egger. I don't get it.

 

[DandyDon1722]

In the big scheme of a Super Bowl bid. You see the intent of the defense only crowd is this team was on the cusp in 2014 and even without Murray, a little defense will out them in the NFC Championship game. Now while I agree Elliott will make a huge difference in offense, that won't change the team to a contender immediately.

But the debate is about why Smith, and my answer is Jerry sees this as a multili-year plan to get to the Super Bowl.

Ignoring his aged quarterback.

But what will be the really amusing aspect to all this is next year when Jerry moves heaven and earth to get his quarterback in the draft and these same guys will be again at the castle door with pitch forks and brandishing torches.

Great, great post and exactly right because it's coming. You know it, I know it and a few others I'm sure.

You can bet your *** that either next year or 2018 Jerry is going to make a Rams/Eagles/Browns move and give away multiple first and second round picks to get our next quarterback because it's really the only way we'll ever get one. If he hits, we're fine for the next decade or so and nobody will care what it costs. If it doesn't we're in trouble for a long, long time.

Much like the physics of water made the sinking of the Titanic an eventual certainty - so will Jerry selling the farm to grab the next franchise QB.

As you also correctly said the pitchforks and torches will be extremely entertaining to say the leas.

 

[Craig]

Are you kidding? Zeke is a day one upgrade over DMsc or Morris. Both of those RBs are on the downside of their careers .

He is definitely an upgrade. Nothing you said disagrees with my post.

 

[jnday]

He is definitely an upgrade. Nothing you said disagrees with my post.

I disagree with your opinion about him not being a huge upgrade. DMac scored three TDs and had the least impact of any RB that I have ever seen considering his stats. I think Zeke will be a huge impact player for this team. By the way, I have not been totally sold on Zeke , but my opinion reflects my thoughts about DMac and Morris as much as anything. Both are hot garbage and several Arabs would be a huge upgrade over them .

 

[Zimmy Lives]

There is nothing sexy about this draft except for Elliott but Smith addresses future potential and the rest address short-term needs. Collins and Tapper will push some spares off the roster and Prescott should push for a roster spot (3rd QB) as well.

 

[mattjames2010]

Well. Considering the report that came out. The Patriots were planning on taking Smith with their 2nd rounder..Essentially when you said Smith isn't any good, one of the most.successful organizations in the past 2 decades disagree with you, in both player skill and position in the draft. I'll take belicheat and his mind overy your ramblings any day.

Patriots are terrible at drafting.

 

[phildadon86]

Patriots are terrible at drafting.

Ignored

 

[HellCrowe]

I don't really watch college football, but from what I've seen on the tape, Zeke is pretty damn good in space and moving in-between tackles. McFadden is more a straight-line runner that needs time to get going.

This will definitely help in the red-zone, if anything at all. It's not going to help the play-calling perspective though, if we don't rely on play-action as a staple. We've ran well in the past and failed to utilize it. Any defense can zone in on predictability.

I think you're leaving out the part that they said McFadden's straight up running style could lead to injuries.... also you have to think about the place in time he was drafted where RBs were considered prime picks. Now in a day in age RBs have less value and you see Zeke go at 4 must speak volume.

 

[mattjames2010]

Ignored

It's pretty well known that the Patriots have been bad at drafting for quite some time now. Their success comes from scheme.

So someone saying "But the Patriots wanted him!", doesn't suddenly make that pick any less risky.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Did you miss the part last year where he had 3 rushing tds? Have you seen how many Tds Elliot had?

How about those 3rd and shorts?

was that because of romo and dez missing...or just a RB issue?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You draft a running back to limit the defense from being exposed snd from being on the field too long. If Dallas controls the TOP snd has long craves that result is scores , the opposing offense has no choice but to try to score quickly to catch up. It is much easier to defend against an offense when you know what they are going to do . Getting the ball run down your throat seems to have a way of breaking another team's will as well.

the difference is about 2 minutes per game.....compare last year to two years ago....when your defense can't stop anyone....and all they need is 40 seconds to score against us and we turn to pumpkin in the 4th quarter...it doesn't matter....