I don't like our draft so far

phildadon86

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I feel like we could draft someone in a wheelchair and people would find a way to say it was a smart pick. "Well, it's risky, but there is some potential there."

Well. Considering the report that came out. The Patriots were planning on taking Smith with their 2nd rounder..Essentially when you said Smith isn't any good, one of the most.successful organizations in the past 2 decades disagree with you, in both player skill and position in the draft. I'll take belicheat and his mind overy your ramblings any day.
 

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One of the best LB in the league...really....the kid hasn't even put on a Cowboys helmet or took a snap in the NFL and he is the best in the league...wow How bout just get him healthy and able to take the fied before sending him to Canton. Homerism is overrated just like the hype an hope Cowboys. Hope Jaylon Smith will play again, someday soon

book mark this page and come back n check it in 4years-jaylon smith is a stud,absolute stud and when healthy will be one of the best defensive players in the league
 

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All the grousing about Ezy E will change after he breaks a long TD. Then another. Then another.

You will be hard pressed to find many here that will say they weren't sure about him when he was drafted. Or dislike him being picked.

I'm keeping track of a couple. Although, when the time comes to rub it in I'll be scared to jinx our team and the players. So you're right we'll all forget the angry draft experts.
 

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I'm sorry.

I know how much this draft meant to you.

Sometimes its just not meant to be.

You'll get over it big guy ....... one day you will find the draft that is just right for you.

Maybe he should just throw in the towel and move over to the Jags or Bucs boards now. I want him to be happy about the draft.
Actually, there are lots of whiners that could just move over to those boards right now and not come back.
 

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Bring that quote to me in 2017 when he's looking more like Rolando McClain rather than Patrick Willis. My guess, you'll be on the hate train when I'm trying to calm you down telling you he's not as bad as you're making him out to be.
Man, if his floor is Rolando McClain (without the bi-polar disorder), sign me up!
 

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I stopped at what's the difference between our backs now and Zeke.

I didn't say there is no difference. that's what you read into it...I said the difference between our backs and zeke vs. ramsey and carr? at this point this team has carr as a starting corner....you happy with that? and when was the last time a 2000 yard rusher hoisted the superbowl trophy?
 

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My question is how much better. McFadden rushed for almost 1100 yards in 12 games as the starter. Had he started the entire year, you can add another third for around 1550 yards. DMC also had 328 receiving, so that would be about 437 over 16 games, for a total of close to 2000 total yards.

How much improvement will we see with Elliot in there? If he rushes for 1600 yards and catches 500, we gained 100 yards. Using a pick like #4 for an additional 100 yards does not seem cost effective.

Now DMC and s on the last year of his deal, and another season like last and he may want Murray money. So, if we got Elliott as a hedge against that big contract, and can get the same production as DMC for much l SS money, then great move. But picking him with the expectation we are going to see huge offensive gains is not proven out by the facts.

We are saving money, not gaining yards.

I agree. even if it was for additional 500 yards....compare that to carr vs. ramsey...how many yards will carr give up. how many TDs...
 

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Once again here is a person that has bought into that defense wins championships BS. How many defenses you ever heard of in the history of football that has scored enough points on a consistent basis week in and week out to win any games let alone a championship?
POINTS WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS, AND THE OFFENSE PUTS THOSE ON THE SCOREBOARD!!!!.

Ramsey was not going to have an effect on our defense or games to help us win games, it just does not happen like that. A special RB like Zeke helps instantly. Ramsey will not be as good as they are talking him up to be, you had better stop believing these talking heads on television. Start studying and doing your own research on players, on football and how the games flow

holy cow!!!! so defense doesn't win champion ships? top defenses stop you rom scoring....will that work for you? they get turn overs...will that work for you? they get the opposing offense off the field and give it back to your offense....does that work for you?

Denver was the top defense in the league...of the top 10 defenses...8 were in the playoffs...4 in the league championship games...
5 of top 10 offenses didn't make the playoffs.

seahawks had the top defense when they won. top defense when they went to the superbowl..

even when cowboys were winning superbowls.....our defense was top 5...except that Irvin, emmitt got the headlines....

stopping the other team from scoring wins championships...its that simple...instead of having to score 30 points a game..you score 20...because your team stops the opposing team..... saints were top offense a couple of years back and worse defense...they sucked.....they stayed home...if they didn't score 35 points...they lost....
 

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If the defense continues to be among the worst ranked in sacks and 4th quarter points allowed, it doesn't matter what Romo or Zeke does, ultimately.

bingo...we can't turn into the saints from a couple of years back. they averaged 30+ a game...but gave up 35+......
 

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All the grousing about Ezy E will change after he breaks a long TD. Then another. Then another.

You will be hard pressed to find many here that will say they weren't sure about him when he was drafted. Or dislike him being picked.

I will be hear saying the same thing....after carr gives up another TD and another and another....get the point?
 

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I will be hear saying the same thing....after carr gives up another TD and another and another....get the point?

You do realize the game is skewed toward the defense giving up a score and a score and a score. Because fans love offense.
 

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You do realize the game is skewed toward the defense giving up a score and a score and a score. Because fans love offense.

yes...but that didn't stop Denver from building a defense. nor the seahawks.....and they didn't give up many....that's why pass rushers and CBs are at a premium. and as you said the game is skewed towards passing game...then why draft a RB?
 

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My question is how much better. McFadden rushed for almost 1100 yards in 12 games as the starter. Had he started the entire year, you can add another third for around 1550 yards. DMC also had 328 receiving, so that would be about 437 over 16 games, for a total of close to 2000 total yards.

How much improvement will we see with Elliot in there? If he rushes for 1600 yards and catches 500, we gained 100 yards. Using a pick like #4 for an additional 100 yards does not seem cost effective.

Now DMC and s on the last year of his deal, and another season like last and he may want Murray money. So, if we got Elliott as a hedge against that big contract, and can get the same production as DMC for much l SS money, then great move. But picking him with the expectation we are going to see huge offensive gains is not proven out by the facts.

We are saving money, not gaining yards.

Did you miss the part last year where he had 3 rushing tds? Have you seen how many Tds Elliot had?

How about those 3rd and shorts?
 

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yes...but that didn't stop Denver from building a defense. nor the seahawks.....and they didn't give up many....that's why pass rushers and CBs are at a premium. and as you said the game is skewed towards passing game...then why draft a RB?

And reality says that a bunch of rookies are not going to come to this team and suddenly Dallas will be a contender. Even Elliott will be a small difference maker.

Fans want passing. They love that stuff. But the reality of this game it is a sea of change. And as teams go toward passing, great rushing attacks seem to be a thing of the oast.

But as sure as so many here are that this is the way things will be, some team will flip the script and the running game will be in favor again. Dallas selected a guy who may have more positive influence on the defense than a rangy cornerback

In three years Ramsey had three interceptions. The excuse is people didn't throw his way.

The didn't throw Deion's way either and he showed up. So if this is the best athlete in college, he didn't really produce much.

Yet in the same three years, Ezy-E had 43 touchdowns. And one has to think the offensive line at OSU isn't anything near the Mount Rushmore line for Dallas.

Simply put, this requires 8 in the box, makes Romo the counter-punch and more effective, and keeps the defense off the field. What most of the players, coaches, and former GMs on NFLN said days before, during the draft itself, and after this pick.
 

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The Elliot pick is the Cowboys trying to win in a way that they have won recently. Score points while chewing up clock by getting into 3rd and short consistently and putting the pressure on the opponents offense to score on the majority of drives knowing that they are likely to get 1-2 drives fewer then normal in a game. It worked in 2014 with a defense that's probably no better then this one. It didn't work last year with a defense that had better talent then 2014 because we didn't have the offense to allow us to play that type of game. Maybe it will work this year, maybe it won't. But its going to be a more likely route to winning the next two years then loading up on the pass rushers in this draft. Maybe there will be an elite pass rusher or two come out of this draft, but right now I'm not sure anyone knows who they will be. There was no obvious Von Miller or even a Clowney type in this draft.
 
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