I don't understand this logic regarding the Jaylon Smith pick

[Galian Beast]

Hence...Zeke

Zeke to me wasn't anymore about instant gratification than the Martin pick. I think his pick hits a few check boxes for us.

Does it allow us to win now? Absolutely, and that is a factor when you think of Romo's window. But it doesn't just help us win in 2016. It enriches that window and possibly expands it. Helps change the identity of this football team.

 

[Risen Star]

Vegas has the over and under for zeke set at 900 yds. What do you think? Take the over?

That's a slam dunk. Take the over. Unless this coaching staff idiotically limits his touches he'll go over 900 easily. Hell go over the TD over/under too, which I believe is 7.5

 

[ThreeandOut]

I think the logic is very simple. The Cowboys wanted to use that 34 pick on a player with a first round grade on their board. Smith was #16 on their board.

 

[daschoo]

To me it suggests they're looking at each pick on individual merits rather than strictly adhering to a media friendly philosophy.
Zeke was "all in" "win now" so when the next pick was Smith over Jack it didn't tie in with that narrative. Either you go with the media and it's illogical and panicked or maybe they're looking at it on a pick by pick basis

 

[Mountaineerfan]

Who would have rather had Jack vs Smith?

 

[jazzcat22]

With the 34th pick we should've got immediate help or traded down and selected him.


Zeke and Jaylon were both horrible value.. Fair enough they didn't want to chance losing Zeke but nobody was going to take Jaylon that high.

Horrible value on who's terms...the fans? The so called media experts? The team doesn't agree with them or you. I will go with the team on this. Though I do not like drafting inured players. But he's a Cowboy, and I will support and root for his recovery.
I agree with the OP the more I think of it.
One of my reasons for getting Zeke, was he helped this team more than any other player in the draft. There was no 1st round pick on defense that was going to help us right away. So why should we feel a 2nd round pick will do the same. As I still say the defense will be better than most think they will be. Just may not show the 1st 4 games. Ro McClain is on a 1 year contract. If Smith recovers then he steps in next year, if Ro not extended. If he is, extended, we have even a better LB group. Zeke helps big, now, Jaylon helps long term future. We got DL in rounds 3 and 4, which probably will be as good as a 2nd and 3rd round players in the D scheme here.

 

[Sarge]

Every pick, of every team, of every draft is scrutinized/judged. It's that simple.

 

[jnday]

Fact: He is past the 16 week of his knee rehab and was cleared to return to athletic activity.
Fact: His nerve casing was left intact meaning that at worst he has a type 3 nerve injury.
Fact: The interior of the nerve regens to the distal region at a rate of 1 inch per month.
Fact: The length of the peroneal nerve in question is 6 inches.
Fact: His surgery took place in early January. Meaning 6 months postop is early July.
Fact: He started having sensation in the leg in February and new sensations are coming in daily.
Fact: Training camp starts July 30.

Now please explain what about my take is comical. If the nerve starts firing in early July, he could in theory be ready for TC. That is absolute best case scenario but I put the 50-50 take for during the season not the entire thing.

All sensations are not good sensations. I think that his recovery is cooming along well, but it is not certain that the nerve will ever heal to the point that it is 100of what it was before the injury. The Cowboys, doctors , trainers and even Smith are just hoping for the time beiing that the sensations that Smith feels can be an assortment of different feelings and some of them may not be so good. He does have youth on his side and that can be a positive factor in his recovery. As I mentioned in another thread, he could have some long term effects due to the nerve damage but maybe he will catch a break and make a full recovery. Drafting him was a big gamble though.

 

[Cowboys22]

It's an okay argument for someone with a radio show who needs to kill 3-4 hours talking about sports everyday but to me it's invalid when you look at the rest of the picks. They drafted Collins and Tapper who are defensive players that can contribute this year. No one at 34 was head and shoulders above either of them and the team knew it was a deep draft for DL. You also have to realize that the team has adopted a philosophy of drafting a 1st round talent in the 2nd round if possible. They are willing to overlook things such as injury to get a 1st round talent. You can dislike that strategy all you want but it's reality and not likely to change. Whenever they get a chance to stop the slide of a top pick in the 2nd round, they are going to take it. Also, Smith's time table to return falls well within the assumed life expectancy of Romo's remaining career. He will help the team win while Romo is still it's QB.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Interesting to say the least for both sides of the fence. I would have taken Spence if the team can take a kid with a drinking problem they can take a kid two plus years removed from his X problem.

 

[Cowboys22]

I think the logic is very simple. The Cowboys wanted to use that 34 pick on a player with a first round grade on their board. Smith was #16 on their board.

If that is true, then the discussion about the pick is over. He represented tremendous value according to their board and was the correct pick. The discussion should now turn to whether or not their scouts and ranking process is subpar or not. You cannot fault the pick if he was a #16 on their board. You have to now fault the reasoning behind him being at that spot on the board.

 

[ThreeandOut]

If that is true, then the discussion about the pick is over. He represented tremendous value according to their board and was the correct pick. The discussion should now turn to whether or not their scouts and ranking process is subpar or not. You cannot fault the pick if he was a #16 on their board. You have to now fault the reasoning behind him being at that spot on the board.

It's interesting how injuries factor into their rankings. They had a first round grade on Sean Lee despite his injuries. They considered Bruce Carter to be a 1st round talent but technically didn't have a 1st round grade on him with his injuries. Although we don't know for certain, I suspect they didn't have a first round grade on Myles Jack due to the long term prognosis for his knee.

 

[DBOY3141]

Interesting to say the least for both sides of the fence. I would have taken Spence if the team can take a kid with a drinking problem they can take a kid two plus years removed from his X problem.

Some mediots have said that Spence interviewed horribly. Was not all about the X.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Some mediots have said that Spence interviewed horribly. Was not all about the X.

I didn't hear that but thanks for sharing. Makes sense even more why he wasn't an option then. Once Ogdah and Dobb were gone they obviously had Smith as the next best option...either way I have moved on let's just put the pads on at this point.

 

[DBOY3141]

I didn't hear that but thanks for sharing. Makes sense even more why he wasn't an option then. Once Ogdah and Dobb were gone they obviously had Smith as the next best option...either way I have moved on let's just put the pads on at this point.

Heard Peter King on Sirus yesterday. He said the Cowboys main plan for day two was to come out of day 2 with 2 of these 3 players. Ogdah, Smith, Collins.

 

[JoeKing]

If that is true, then the discussion about the pick is over. He represented tremendous value according to their board and was the correct pick. The discussion should now turn to whether or not their scouts and ranking process is subpar or not. You cannot fault the pick if he was a #16 on their board. You have to now fault the reasoning behind him being at that spot on the board.

Agreed, he had no business being that high on the board. So who should get fired? Head of Scouting Dept? Will McClay? Or are the Joneses once again to blame?

 

[tyke1doe]

Vegas has the over and under for zeke set at 900 yds. What do you think? Take the over?

Definitely take the over.

 

[DTown214]

Who would have rather had Jack vs Smith?

Very difficult to say right now. What it sounds like is Jack could play now but there's concerns about his longterm future, and the opposite with Jaylon Smith. If that's true then Smith is the better pick in my opinion. Both are great players when healthy so it just comes down to how many years you'll get out of them.

 

[DTown214]

I think the logic is very simple. The Cowboys wanted to use that 34 pick on a player with a first round grade on their board. Smith was #16 on their board.

I know lol My problem was with people saying we shouldn't have taken him because we needed immediate help.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't love the Smith pick but not just because it's injuries. I don't like that part of it at all but when I watch him, I'm not in love with him. I don't believe he sheds well and I see him get blocked and stay blocked. I didn't like him nearly as much as a lot of folks did. JMO