I emailed Steve Hoffman and got a response!

[Dave_in-NC]

Hoffman says he a kick advisor for NFL teams, most of them suck. I wouldnt be braggin.

 

[joseephuss]

go look it up our kickers were 74% this year and last year a whopping 76% under Hoffman the great. Big friggin difference

Cortez was a 70.6% kicker for Dallas this season. Cundiff was a 62.5% kicker this year.

Billy was the only kicker for Dallas last season when he hit 76.9% of his FG attempts. Seems like that number is much better than the other two.

Maybe people are right and there shouldn't be some great admiration for Hoffman, but I don't understand why there is such great hate for the man.

I also don't see a problem with having a kicking coach even if a good kicker is brought in. A position coaching isn't a bad thing. I also think Dallas should have a QB coach and leave the coordinator duties to Payton or any new offensive coordinator.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

If I am in the minority thats fine at least I am being sensible.


Your little rant about getting rid of the other positions coaches is lame for one BIG reason. Tell me of the 32 NFL teams how many have a kicking coach, and how many jobs has Hoffman the great been offered

First of all that's not true. They hire "Consultants". We call them coaches. No difference. As a matter of fact Paul McCord got a Super Bowl ring when he was a "Consultant" with the Ravens. You need to know what you are talking about first.

Secondly, if you are happy with the results of our kicking game and don't think we need all the help we can get then you have not been watching the Cowboys this year.

 

[BigDFan5]

Cortez was a 70.6% kicker for Dallas this season. Cundiff was a 62.5% kicker this year.

Billy was the only kicker for Dallas last season when he hit 76.9% of his FG attempts. Seems like that number is much better than the other two.

Maybe people are right and there shouldn't be some great admiration for Hoffman, but I don't understand why there is such great hate for the man.

I also don't see a problem with having a kicking coach even if a good kicker is brought in. A position coaching isn't a bad thing. I also think Dallas should have a QB coach and leave the coordinator duties to Payton or any new offensive coordinator.

I have no hate for hoffman whatsoever, the reactions from everyone of how firing hoffman was some huge mistake and how great he was, and Parcells is an idiot for letting him go is what bugs me. our overall FG % dropped 2 points not a huge difference. no team in the NFL has a kicking coach so I seriously doubt hoffman is some genius or he would have a job.


We do have a QB coach his name is David Lee

 

[BigDFan5]

First of all that's not true. They hire "Consultants". We call them coaches. No difference. As a matter of fact Paul McCord got a Super Bowl ring when he was a "Consultant" with the Ravens. You need to know what you are talking about first.

Secondly, if you are happy with the results of our kicking game and don't think we need all the help we can get then you have not been watching the Cowboys this year.

Its is 100% true. A consultant is not on your payroll and is not a coach big difference.


I am not happy with the kicking game at all, I am just smart enough to know Hoffman is not a miracle worker and we need a good kicker not to be the only team employing a kicking coach

 

[Jimz31]

Let's face it....what Jimmy Johnson said was correct....One fo BP's biggest mistakes was letting Hoffman go.

What does a kicking coach do?

1. He keeps the kickers fundamental sound. Is it any wonder that Cundiff was nailing them in his tryout to make the team again? He just got done working with Hoffman.

2. He keeps the kickers and punters heads in the game and focused on what they have to do. Is it any wonder why we had kickers sitting on the bench doing virtually nothing till it's time to come into the game and kick the ball? At crucial situations? If any of you have been to the games when he was a coach, you would see him with the kickers more often than not.

Yes, these kickers SHOULD have been concentrating on the ONE job that they have to do, but sitting on that bench has a tendency to make their mind wander....and wander it did.

You all can poo-poo what Hoffman does, but some of us just know better.

 

[joseephuss]

Its is 100% true. A consultant is not on your payroll and is not a coach big difference.


I am not happy with the kicking game at all, I am just smart enough to know Hoffman is not a miracle worker and we need a good kicker not to be the only team employing a kicking coach

What is wrong with both? A good kicker and kicking coach? Doesn't sound like a bad idea. Yes, I would prefer at least a good kicker, but Dallas hasn't attempted to get one. If they aren't going to even try and bring in a good kicker, then I prefer having a kicking coach. I don't care that Dallas was the only one to employ a kicking coach. As bad as some teams kickers have been, maybe more interest should shown in getting kicking coaches. These problems don't fix themselves. Something has to be tried.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Its is 100% true. A consultant is not on your payroll and is not a coach big difference.


I am not happy with the kicking game at all, I am just smart enough to know Hoffman is not a miracle worker and we need a good kicker not to be the only team employing a kicking coach

Right, They do it for free. You don't give someone who is "Just a consultant" a super bowl ring. But hey, we'll go with your beliefs. And keep watching guys shank the chipshots in the wanning seconds of a game. Oh joy!

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Let's face it....what Jimmy Johnson said was correct....One fo BP's biggest mistakes was letting Hoffman go.

What does a kicking coach do?

1. He keeps the kickers fundamental sound. Is it any wonder that Cundiff was nailing them in his tryout to make the team again? He just got done working with Hoffman.

2. He keeps the kickers and punters heads in the game and focused on what they have to do. Is it any wonder why we had kickers sitting on the bench doing virtually nothing till it's time to come into the game and kick the ball? At crucial situations? If any of you have been to the games when he was a coach, you would see him with the kickers more often than not.

Yes, these kickers SHOULD have been concentrating on the ONE job that they have to do, but sitting on that bench has a tendency to make their mind wander....and wander it did.

You all can poo-poo what Hoffman does, but some of us just know better.

Some folks don't get it. They have their, "Everyone else does it this way, so why shouldn't we?" mentality. But they forget that sometimes, breaking the mold actually leads to success. But some of those people will never find that out.

 

[AbeBeta]

go look it up our kickers were 74% this year and last year a whopping 76% under Hoffman the great. Big friggin difference

Now that's a statistic!

I ask this every time his name comes up. If he is so good why doesn't he have a full time job? Nobody would rather do the consulting gig instead of having a steady job in a stable location.

 

[dargonking999]

Last time i checked the FG kickers this season plain sucked. There was a few teams that had kickers making kicks for them at crunch time, others we're getting blocked or missing.

A Kicker coach is a waste of time and money, we dont neeed any body giving excuses to why these kickers we find on the streets suck and keep saying give them a chance.

Bottom line, i dont think Vinteri has a kicker coach, and he has hit alot of kicks in his day, at lot of them on posters, i doubt anybdoy in the league could name our kicker from 2004 without looking at roster. Get a real kicker, and you wont need a kicking coach.

 

[joseephuss]

Now that's a statistic!

I ask this every time his name comes up. If he is so good why doesn't he have a full time job? Nobody would rather do the consulting gig instead of having a steady job in a stable location.

Dallas Cowboys kicking percentage last 3 years:
2003 79.3% Cundiff only kicker
2004 76.9% Cundiff only kicker
2005 70.4%(Cundiff 62.5%)

http://sports-att.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/stats?team=dal

Maybe it is just Cundiff getting worse every year and nothing else. Maybe it is coaching.

 

[NovaCowboy]

Get a real kicker, and you wont need a kicking coach.

You act like "real kickers" can be found at every street corner. Show me where we can get one of these real kickers you speak of and then I'll say we dont need Hoffman.

Obviously if most of the kickers in the league suck these days they arent very easy to find.

 

[joseephuss]

Parcells said something about kickers and field goal attempts under 40 yards during training camp. Something about they should hit a very high percentage especially off the turf and the partial dome of Texas Stadium.

Cundiff coming into this year hit 35 of 38 kicks from less than 40 yards. He only hit 4 of 7 this season. That doesn't count the miss against Carolina that was wiped out by the penalty. He has missed more without Hoffman than with Hoffman. Just so you know, I keep posting because this horse ain't quite dead yet. :laugh2:

 

[Jimz31]

Now that's a statistic!

I ask this every time his name comes up. If he is so good why doesn't he have a full time job? Nobody would rather do the consulting gig instead of having a steady job in a stable location.

What are you smoking? Give me some of it.

Consultants make more money than CEO's in "the real world" in a shorter amount of time. Believe me.

 

[mschmidt64]

The big friggin difference is how they perform in crunch time. That is where the kicking coach helps the most.

Or in other words...

"I have no point, so let me make something up to support my ridiculous stance!"

Our kickers were no more clutch when Hoffman was here than they were after he left.

They were no better or no worse.

He had a cozy little job at a specialist position that was not to be found anywhere else in football.... its REDUNDANT and NOT NEEDED.

We will sink money into a kicker this offseason and prove it.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Or in other words...

"I have no point, so let me make something up to support my ridiculous stance!"

Our kickers were no more clutch when Hoffman was here than they were after he left.

They were no better or no worse.

He had a cozy little job at a specialist position that was not to be found anywhere else in football.... its REDUNDANT and NOT NEEDED.

We will sink money into a kicker this offseason and prove it.

Some people just show how little they actually know by statements like these. First of all something that supposedly doesn't exist somewhere else cannot be redundant. Secondly, if think I just made this up, maybe you should review some of the play from this position. And since we obviously didn't have a good kicker this year, you think a coach was not needed. Man, am I glad you don't handle the personell decisions for this team.

And hey, go back a root for #20 some more. Seems like you may know about baseball than you do football.

 

[Jimz31]

Or in other words...

"I have no point, so let me make something up to support my ridiculous stance!"

Our kickers were no more clutch when Hoffman was here than they were after he left.

They were no better or no worse.

He had a cozy little job at a specialist position that was not to be found anywhere else in football.... its REDUNDANT and NOT NEEDED.

We will sink money into a kicker this offseason and prove it.

Let's just "sink" money into every position on the field and we'd win the Superbowl. In the process, we can jettison EVERY coach that we have since it is the money that makes the difference.

Money makes a difference to a point, I'll agree, but just make sure it is a kicker that has fundamentals that won't quit.....and a head that never freezes.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Let's just "sink" money into every position on the field and we'd win the Superbowl. In the process, we can jettison EVERY coach that we have since it is the money that makes the difference.

Money makes a difference to a point, I'll agree, but just make sure it is a kicker that has fundamentals that won't quit.....and a head that never freezes.

Yeah, money makes the difference. How's that workin' out for TO and the Birds? I agree with ya Jim, Some folks are short sighted with this.

 

[mschmidt64]

Secondly, if think I just made this up

I know that you just made it up.

The Dallas Cowboys with Steve Hoffman were kings of bringing in the street FAs and milking them for all they were worth.

Hoffman didn't do anything to get them to perform any better... which is why they all ended up out of work sooner rather than later. Because in the end, they were all marginal kickers and no one can change that, not even a glorified special teams coach like Hoffman.

As long as Hoffman was here, we should be used to gutter kickers like Seder and Cundiff.

Hopefully, his departure will signal an end to the acceptance of mediocrity in this department, which we had done for years.

The guy was nothing special and it is why he is still UNemployed.

Now quick.... tell me something else you made up, like our kickoffs were longer under Hoffman or something.