I love Al Davis

[Boyzmamacita]

Jerry is nothing like Davis and Jerry is still very sane and capable of remaining as top chair of the Cowboys. When he is done, he has his son Stephen groomed to take over. Davis is slowly selling the shares to his team off but the fans don't know that and what choice does he have? He's not capable and has no successor. But heck, he's kicking and fighting while he sells those shares. The Cowboys are owned 100 % by the Jones family and have a 1.3 billion stadium in the works, a possible budding dynasty and the largest marketing arms and contracts of all NFL teams. No comparison characteristically, economically or historically.

So is Al Davis going to honor his contract with Kiffin like he did with Shanahan back in 89? He's gonna have to now a days but he'll fight and he will lose this time. Boy you should see all the candidates waiting to take that job knowing they might get stiffed. Jerry has never wrote a bad check and has always honored his contracts, i.e Terry Glenn, Marco Rivera, Quincy Carter, heck Roy Williams lol. Al I Bounce Checks Davis is nothing like Jeremiah Jones.

Excellent post, especially the part in bold. But his name is Jerral, not Jeremiah.:laugh2:

 

[stealth]

I think lane made a mistake by telling Davis he wanted to take the arkansas job.

Pretty sure he got written off by Al at that point, and I am not sure that I disagree with it.

more to the point, if wade walked into jerry's office and said he wanted to take a college coaching job, I am 100 percent positive Wade wouldn't walk out of that room as the coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[AKATheRake]

Excellent post, especially the part in bold. But his name is Jerral, not Jeremiah.:laugh2:

Thank you for sharing your very kind sentiments with me. Truthfully, I thought Jeremiah sounded better, that's all. Nonetheless, thank you for the correction, the constructive criticism is very much welcome. Jerry and Al are nothing alike when it comes to doing business and I think that's pretty safe to say.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Wow!!! I don't see this at all. Yes, he looks old, damn old but he isn't senile. Infact, he's extremely clear, direct, and crisp. I don't see senile at all....

Clearly Al Davis isnt senile... He's just stubborn and quick to judge. He should have let the kid run the show, that team isn't ready to win.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

What's all this comparing Al to Jerry anyway? Davis has won 3 Super Bowls in 30 years. Jerry won 3 in his first 6 years with two different coaches and he has his team back on track as one of the league's top contenders. Everything positive about Al Davis is from some 20 years ago and even then he was burning down bridges. Jerry Jones is very much a mover and shaker in the league with a winning team that boosts ratings for the league and networks and a breathtaking palace about to open up that the Cowboys will call home. There's really no comparison. You can't say anything good about the Raiders or Al Davis without prefacing it with "used to be." That's a big difference between the two right there.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Jerry and Al
arent just anybody....I Love you too Clove.

Do you love Tomson's unicorns?

 

[AKATheRake]

I think lane made a mistake by telling Davis he wanted to take the arkansas job.

Pretty sure he got written off by Al at that point, and I am not sure that I disagree with it.

more to the point, if wade walked into jerry's office and said he wanted to take a college coaching job, I am 100 percent positive Wade wouldn't walk out of that room as the coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

I only saw press conferences last year where Kiffin said he had interest in only being the head coach of the Oakland Raider while being asked about Arkansas. Never once did I see anything confirming Kiffin wanted the Arkansas job. If he did it was his, Davis asked for his resignation and nothing was holding Kiffin from going there if that's what he really wanted. It doesn't make sense.

I also went against what I said and I listened to Al Davis' presser. There is nothing there other than saying he's releasing Lane for cause. When Davis was asked what exactly was it that turned Davis off he had no specific examples but did mention he was affecting some of the other coaches in a negative way. Below is also NFL netwroks written take on the presser and the situation. It even goe's to the extent of saying Kiffin always tried to deflect the situation when the media would question him about it. Doesn't sound like someone stirring the pot to me. Listen Al's just being Al, a disgruntled, bitter owner that knows the system and is trying to use it to his advantage as always. Kiffin wins this one, mark my words. Even Tom Cable is saying this is a weird day and he has lost his friend on the team. This is the guy who is getting the interm coaching gig, doesn't sound too excited to me. No one wans this job, no one with options at least.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80b41921&template=with-video&confirm=true

 

[Rack]

Al Davis called Mort a liar?


So what, he's being crucified for telling it like it is?



I am now an Al Davis fan. Screw Mort and everyone else over at BSPN (except Emmitt of course).

 

[stealth]

The only reason petrino left atlanta the way he did was because he knew Kiffen wanted the job. I am not on al's side, to be honest he scares me when I see pictures of him. But I also know that lane is only a couple years older than I am, and I am a little kid about things, and I get the same vibe from kiffen.

That's all on me though.

 

[AKATheRake]

What's all this comparing Al to Jerry anyway? Davis has won 3 Super Bowls in 30 years. Jerry won 3 in his first 6 years with two different coaches and he has his team back on track as one of the league's top contenders. Everything positive about Al Davis is from some 20 years ago and even then he was burning down bridges. Jerry Jones is very much a mover and shaker in the league with a winning team that boosts ratings for the league and networks and a breathtaking palace about to open up that the Cowboys will call home. There's really no comparison. You can't say anything good about the Raiders or Al Davis without prefacing it with "used to be." That's a big difference between the two right there.

Boy o boy, the more I talk to you the more I like you. Now here's a fan that know's what they're talking about. Just to boot, the gentleman you have in your bottom picture, Ratliff, he's going to the pro bowl this year if he stays on the pace he's on. Minus the Washington game of course. By the way, Jerry does not write bad checks or contracts and I have never heard anybody say he's had a problem paying them. Quite the contrary to say the least.

 

[AKATheRake]

Do you love Tomson's unicorns?

That is absolutely comical!

 

[JRid21]

One player. The majority of Raiders love him...You think the older Cowboys love Jerry..Hmmm I got news for you ....You know what its His team...He can do what he likes...I don't like some sneaky punk biting the hand the feeds you Show some loyalty.Nobody wanted you. you went to the Raiders Shut up and Coach...heartless gutless turd..I hope he never coaches again

It's not just one player, he has done it to a few and most of his coaches. It might be his team since he is the majority managing partner I believe but he needs to go. He is bad for the league and not many owners nor coaches like the guy. Do I respect him for what he did in the past? Absolutely, but since Gruden left, this team had been pathetic till Kiffin was hired and I saw a ton of improvement in this team the past two years. Kiffin will coach again because a lot of people like him and most of his players obviously did.

 

[Danny White]

He just called Mort a LIAR.....a Professional Liar.... Kudos to you Mr Davis and to you Mort and the people you work I say..Stick that in your pipe and smole that !!!!!

Someone may have already pointed this out in this thread, but he actually was calling Lane Kiffen a "professional liar." He just said Mort ran with his lies, but he didn't call Mort a liar. It was tough to figure out at first listen, but his "liar" comments were directed at Kiffen.

 

[burmafrd]

Have to laugh at anyone who tries to deny that Davis has not pulled this stunt before.

 

[newlander]

Ask Mike Shanahan what great guy Davis is. He still hasn't paid him money owed from his contract in 1989. Unreal.

 

[kevwun]

Don't know how anyone can defend Al Davis. I do worry that we are headed down the same path when Jerry starts losing it.

 

[ilovejerry]

LOL, you didn't know he had the 3 rings. Don't give me that man. You would have said it. The bottom line is that the SB's weren't even really what we were talking about. Only reason a Superbowl came up was because of Madden winning one for him and resigning. Our discussion was about you saying Jerry Jones and Al Davis were basically the same and I provided many facts that proved differently, mostly ones on Al's handling of his contractual agreements where I do not know of any that Jerry has backed out on. That was the whole jist of our conversation. Now you're going on like you're this great Raiders historian. Man I asked you to explain the last 10 years and you wouldn't, let alone 25 years ago. Ranger was decent enough to come by and enlighten us on some Raiders history and what I missed was how many SB coaches worked for Al in his tenure. Nothing else that I said about his dealings and transactions were disputed. Instead of talking like you knew all of this and that you should be thanking the man for enlightening you on something you were very hollowly and emotionally arguing for. You made statements you couldnt back up. I stand corrected on 2 SB winnin coaches as opposed to 1 but everything else I said about AL Davis were based on facts that I know of and yes most of it is what the media has expressed to us over a decade. Guess he never sued the league and the owners. Guess he is going to honor his commitment with Kiffin after not honoring it with Shanny and getting away with it. He's selling ownership of the Raiders bit by bit, his choice and right but ur talking like the guy will go down with this team till he dies and that him and Jerry are splitting images. I was corrected once in all the valid point I brought up and you have been corrected countless times during this thread. The difference between me and you is I thanked the indivudal who corrected me because he gave me knowledge I wasn't prevy too at the time. You have never acknowledged any facts that you have been approach with by the other bloggers. I'm not going to get intothis anymore. Best of luck my friend.

Listen, Because I dont sit and type and get into all the facts dont misunderstand or underestimate me, or anyone for that matter. I think I'm older then you and have watched football longer then you ( so to say I dont know what im talking baout is simple naive ) , Now if I need to prove to you about how much football knowledge I have I dont have the time to sit and type You want a history lesson give me a call. I stated that The The reason I have a fondness for the Raiders Organization was 1- They hate the Steelers.( any older Cowboy fan has the same hatred as I do or in some capacity despises the Steelers.) 2- They Beat our division rivals not once but twice in the SB. Ok so its not hard to look up who those teams were..I didnt think I needed to be specific. Now as to comparing Al to Jerry...you know what I dont have the time to sit and write these long debates..about why I like Al or Jerry or whatever.. You hate Al, and jerrys without fault and has done no wrong... Go on and believe what you like...

 

[ilovejerry]

Don't know how anyone can defend Al Davis. I do worry that we are headed down the same path when Jerry starts losing it.

Against Kiffen its not that hard.. And that was the point I was trying to make. He wont go quietly he will go kicking and screaming, But then again its his team and his prerogative

 

[ilovejerry]

Do you love Tomson's unicorns?

Over my head sorry.

 

[ilovejerry]

Someone may have already pointed this out in this thread, but he actually was calling Lane Kiffen a "professional liar." He just said Mort ran with his lies, but he didn't call Mort a liar. It was tough to figure out at first listen, but his "liar" comments were directed at Kiffen.

Yes your right, I got excited that someone slammed Mort...