I Predict: The Cowboys will sign Randy Moss

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Yeagermeister;1943306 said:
Owens is not going to change

I think Owens has changed but I don't think he has changed to the point to think Moss and Owens could work well together.
 

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Doomsday101;1943307 said:
I think Owens has changed but I don't think he has changed to the point to think Moss and Owens could work well together.

He changed because he's getting his way. If we bring Moss it will mean a new contract and TO is already saying he wants a new one.
 

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soccerbud;1943275 said:
Yeah, so which one of them is going to play second fiddle to another?
Which one of them is going to say hey, I will take sacrifice for the sake of the team and become a role-player? It sure won't be Owens.

People play too much madden i swear

Can we please stop with the Madden references, when we have nothing intelligent to add.

I'll give you a Madden move late Feb 2007.

(PatsFan) What do say we take the 2006 Pat offense with our great OL, Brady and Mulroney and add Moss and Stalworth via FA and trade for Wes Welker.

(TooOldtohaveplayedMaddenSmartAzz) So let me get this straight.
You want to replace our #1,#2 and #3 WR's (even though they suck) all in one off-season.
Too much money invested in the WR position.
Why would all those guys come here?
Brady will never get along with Moss, he only likes slow guys who cant catch.
How can we incorporate three new WR's during one offseason. No chemistry!
Sounds like someone needs to stop playing so much Madden!
 

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Yeagermeister;1943313 said:
He changed because he's getting his way. If we bring Moss it will mean a new contract and TO is already saying he wants a new one.

I think he is being smarter in how he deals with the press that is the main change I see. As for Moss I agree with you I don't think TO has changed to the point of playing second fiddle to Moss. I think on paper it looks great but in reality I don't think this is a good match for the Cowboys
 

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John Clayton said that Moss will likely stay in NE, though Mort said a few days ago that he thought Moss would want a mint that NE wouldn't pay.

Clayton also said this morning he thought Moss would get $9M a year on the open market.

Either way, there's no way he's coming to Dallas.
 

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sonnyboy;1943303 said:
Anyone who doesnt realize how much both these guys would embrace the idea of playing in the same offense, just doesnt understand the game.

Anyone who doesn't realize how much both these guys together could effect a locker room, just understand the game.
 

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Double Trouble;1943320 said:
John Clayton said that Moss will likely stay in NE, though Mort said a few days ago that he thought Moss would want a mint that NE wouldn't pay.

Clayton also said this morning he thought Moss would get $9M a year on the open market.

Either way, there's no way he's coming to Dallas.
Both are just running their mouth and stating predictions which are often incorrect.




Bach;1943327 said:
Anyone who doesn't realize how much both these guys together could effect a locker room, just understand the game.
True, but sometimes you have to make sacrifices when you know you have a window that will only be open for a limited time.
 

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The Panch;1943328 said:
True, but sometimes you have to make sacrifices when you know you have a window that will only be open for a limited time.

It would definitely be entertaining. TO and Moss. Or TO and Chad Johnson.

If I thought it'd work, then I'd be all for it. But I think it invites more problems than solutions.
 

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I predict we never win a Superbowl till Jerry sells this team, How about I predict Jerry has a financial bust with this new stadium unless the cowboys win a playoff game or two. I predict Jerry ruins this team...um wait a minute he did that already......
 

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sonnyboy;1943316 said:
Can we please stop with the Madden references, when we have nothing intelligent to add.

I'll give you a Madden move late Feb 2007.

(PatsFan) What do say we take the 2006 Pat offense with our great OL, Brady and Mulroney and add Moss and Stalworth via FA and trade for Wes Welker.

(TooOldtohaveplayedMaddenSmartAzz) So let me get this straight.
You want to replace our #1,#2 and #3 WR's (even though they suck) all in one off-season.
Too much money invested in the WR position.
Why would all those guys come here?
Brady will never get along with Moss, he only likes slow guys who cant catch.
How can we incorporate three new WR's during one offseason. No chemistry!
Sounds like someone needs to stop playing so much Madden!


*Groans* That stuff only happened cause Welker and Moss came CHEAP. A 4th for Moss? Yeah, I'm sure everyone saw that coming.

Moss will NOT come to Dallas that cheap this year, or anywhere for that matter. He's a UFA that will likely get Tagged by New England. Know what that means, hopeful nation, that means that you'd then be giving New England 2 first rounders to sign Moss.

No one here, or anywhere, thought anything of Welker last year so there is no way you can even try and claim that people knew he'd catch 100 balls. 99% of the world had never even heard of him before the middle of this season.

Stalworth is a UFA, again, meaning he'll sign another 10-11 million dollar deal, for at least one season. New England didn't trade for these players, they had to sign them. That's not Madden fantasy, that's them taking the chance to use money they had.

Moss will NOT be playing for the Cowboys next year at like a 3 million dollar cap hit, like he did in New England. He did so just so he could be a UFA this year. You think he's honestly going to sign anywhere this year for less than 9 or 10 a year? You're crazy if you think so.


The Madden references are for all these people who seem to think you can simply trade player for player all the time and it has no bad effects. Like all these fools who think we can just trade safety Roy Williams for Chad Johnson or Williams from Detriot. The fact that it would nail us for a 7-8 million dollar cap hit, to move him, doesn't register with them cause they're used to playing Madden with the Salary cap turned off.
 

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tyke1doe;1942221 said:
I don't think it happens. But Jerry did go out and steal Deion Sanders from the 49ers so anything's possible.

Innaccurate.


Clove;1942351 said:
If Jerry were to sign Moss, consisder us a blockbuster franchise. All sportscenters will begain and end with the Cowboys.

It would be Super Bowl or bust. And BTW, if we don't get this defense up to dominant status, doesn't matter who we have on offense, they'll just outscore us.

The Moss experiment didnt work in NE. So... I dont know...


Clove;1942357 said:
New England got Moss at street value (so to speak), I don't see them all of a sudden rolling out billions to keep an older receiver, plus they've thrown their best shot with the best talent in the NFL and it wasn't enough, they may go another route.


Yep and it didnt work... but just barely.... look at Owens and Moss... in their first year with the NEW team(refering to Philly and NE).... both teams just missed winnng SB.... both losses by.... "everybody now..." (((THREE POINTS)))


Doomsday101;1943307 said:
I think Owens has changed but I don't think he has changed to the point to think Moss and Owens could work well together.

Agreed.


Bottom line: Moss is already showing that he can dump on his team RIGHT AFTER THE GAME and thensome.... I really dont want that type of player..... we can win without a Moss..... The more I see outta Moss the less I knock Jerry for not taking him. The guy is a thug POS
 

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Most of you are thinking about this from a team moral, locker room standpoint. But when you consider the business aspects of this idea, it makes a lot more sense when compared to the alternatives:

  1. You would be foolish to think that Randy Moss would not listen to contract offers from other teams. Even if the Patriots chose to franchise Moss, they would still have to pay him the contract value of one of the best receivers in the league, which means he would be getting Owens-type money. New England has never been a team to shell out huge bucks to aging veterans. The only reason Moss was on the team this year was because he came at a bargain price and the Patriots only had to give up a 4th round draft selection. Plus if you franchise Moss, you run the risk of having an unhappy Moss, which means an unproductive Moss.
  2. Jones realizes that this team needs another option at receiver. The odds are against Glenn ever being the prolific receiver he once was. Crayton is nothing more than a glorified 3rd receiver, and have not seen anything to suggest that Miles, Hurd, or Stanback can step into the 2nd receiver role. Consider the other free agent options at receiver: Berrian, Stallworth, Walker, etc. All of which have major question marks surrounding their ability to produce. Berrian doesn't have the surest of hands. Stallworth and Walker are injury prone. The last thing we need is another receiver dropping passes... *cough, Crayton* or another receiver missing nearly the entire season with injury... *cough, Glenn*
  3. Considering the other top receiver possibilities, there would need to be some sort of trade and sacrifice of a high draft selection to obtain said receiver. Out of the big three, Williams, Johnson, and Fitzgerald, the most fitting would be Williams. It is well known that he wants to return close to home and isn't happy in Detroit. It is also well known that Johnson clearly wants out of Cincinnati and will try to do everything possible to get out. However, these guys will not come to Dallas for a bag of peanuts. Why give up draft selections when you can get arguably the best receiver in the league without giving up selections?
  4. The Cowboys would be able to get Moss, for a hefty contract price, I am sure, but would also be able to hold onto valuable draft selections for other positions of need. The first two selections could lock a running back to pair with Barber and also a cornerback that can be the successor to Newman/Henry. Without giving up draft selections and still getting a top-notch receiver, we would have a ton of possibilities to do a lot more in the draft with that ammunition.
I have the feeling that Jerry wants to do something monumental this off-season. The pain that followed the Cowboys early exit to the Giants combined with the Patriots outshining the Cowboys front office and the Patriots being looked upon as the greatest team ever has to have Jones' ego burning. I don't know what it will be: The signing of Moss, trading for McFadden, signing Moss AND Trading for McFadden, Trading Carpenter and Spears for another late first round/early second round draft selection, etc. Who knows what it will be? But something big will happen and you cannot discredit any of the possibilities.
 

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Something big might happen but I'm 99.9% sure that signing Moss and trading our draft picks (and possibly Barber) to move up and take DMac will NOT be part of the big happening.
 

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BraveHeartFan;1943458 said:
Something big might happen but I'm 99.9% sure that

signing Moss and

trading our draft picks (and possibly Barber) to move up and take DMac will NOT be part of the big happening.


Agree on former... the latter will happen minus Barber. We are losing 2 1st rounders plus for McFadden. Jerry is still seeing red from Giants loss and couple that with the fact that he wanted McFad for over a year now.
 

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I would never say no when it comes to JJ. But it would be a far reach. I think Moss stays in NE, he will want a raise and I think he should get one. I'm sure Brady will want him to stay and make another run at it. Besides I don't think we need another ego in the huddle with TO.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;1942066 said:
I predict that The Cowboys will sign Randy Moss. There would be no bigger free-agency splash that Jerry Jones could make than this as an owner, and as a general manager, there would be no better #2 free-agent WR he could target. In fact, if he does not target him then he is not doing his job as GM.

Moss is an exceptional talent and can be used interchangeably as a #1 and #2 WR, but be mainly used as the sure-fire deep threat that Dallas covets. Paired with T.O. the combination would be unstoppable. Don't minimize this potential move either. We all thought T.O.-to-Dallas was unthinkable and now should all be thankful that Jones had the vision to see past what we the fans initially could not see and/or aceept.

Also, don't just assume Jones will be so willing to give up a first round pick for another #1 WR like Roy Williams when he can keep the pick and still sign a better WR in Moss. And please don't counter this by saying that Moss would never come here because we all said the same about T.O. Also, Moss WANTED to be drafted here, and even though he's upset he was not, I think the chance for him to finally come here and finish his career with what we have in place (not to mention the millions Jerry will throw at him) will be intriguing, and that he would seriously consider it.

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This isn't Madden Football!:lmao:
 

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MichaelWinicki;1942074 said:
I predict someone will lose their mind and start a thread whereby they make the bold and foolish prediction that we will sign Randy Moss this offseason.

I predict there will many useless threads about many bold and foolish predictions and trade scenarios. And sign certain players.....hmmm, wonder if the ricky Ray one will pop up again...:eek:
 

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Bach;1943338 said:
It would definitely be entertaining. TO and Moss. Or TO and Chad Johnson.

If I thought it'd work, then I'd be all for it. But I think it invites more problems than solutions.

As much as I love the idea of pairing Moss with Owens, I think Ocho is a better play. He's a few years younger, has a similar skill set and certainly a better attitude than Moss.
One thing about Johnson nobody mentions is his durability. Guy never misses a game.

Problem is a Johnson trade just doesnt make sense from Cinny's perspective.
I believe he's under contract til 2011. So there's probably a large portion of the prorated signing bonus sitting out there that would excellerate into thier 2008 cap.
Now if I'm Cinn and I'm going to lose a top 5 Probowl WR and take a big 2008 cap hit, I want to be compensated!
And I'm talking more than the 22nd pick in 2008.

This would have to be a trade like Galloway for Keyshawn. Where both teams are parting with a headache of similar value. Both teams believed the headache would perform better in thier new setting, and both teams were taking a similar cap hit.
 

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YoMick;1943464 said:
Agree on former... the latter will happen minus Barber. We are losing 2 1st rounders plus for McFadden. Jerry is still seeing red from Giants loss and couple that with the fact that he wanted McFad for over a year now.


Maybe...but I just don't see it. I don't see him moving up that much for a RB. He's said, many times in the past now, that you wouldn't ever give up that much to move up to #1 (In fact he said it again last year) unless you were taking a franchise QB.
 

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BraveHeartFan;1943458 said:
Something big might happen but I'm 99.9% sure that signing Moss and trading our draft picks (and possibly Barber) to move up and take DMac will NOT be part of the big happening.

I think of all the possibilities I mentioned, the trading of Bobby Carpenter and Marcus Spears scenario has the biggest shot of happening. If that trade does come off and Dallas earns a low first round/early second round selection, the chances of Jerry trying to move up to get McFadden will increase. As far as Moss is concerned, we need to know what the Patriots plan on doing with him. I'm not sure if Moss will in fact end up with Dallas, but I think there is a high possibility that Moss suits up for someone other than the Patriots next season.

With all that said, I am 100% positive that any blockbuster trade made by the Cowboys will somehow include Dexter Coakley!

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