I think we have more than 6 wins this season if Cooper Rush starts week 1

RonnieT24

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You are blind if you say I'm blaming Dak for everything. I literally said nobody gets an excuse. You're so hell-bent on defending Dak and worshipping the ground he walks on that you refuse to read what is actually said. I can't help you there except say reread my post. I literally said Dak doesn't get an excuse, nor does anyone. It's right there when you quoted what I said. I literally said in my first sentence the defense sucked. But because I refuse to blame it all on the defense, somehow I am putting all the blame on Dak. Sure thing, dude. You apparently have an agenda. I'm done here.
I think it's fair to say Dak was not having a good year.. but I think it's silly to ignore that he began the season with a struggling offensive line starting two rookies, a #1 receiver who missed camp, no running game to speak of and a defense that felt it was optional to even show up for games at times. The Cowboys put too much on him at once and asked him to make miracles. That aint who he is.. He is a very good QB who CAN play great sometimes. But he is not one who can elevate chicken crap around him. We all wish he was but he aint. Given that we fell behind by 20+ points in 4 of his 8 starts this season it's no surprise that he had to take more chances and force the issue. Throw in receivers getting the least separation in the league and you get what you get.

I know who Dak is.. He's a really good player but he is not a generational QB. The point is that he is plenty good enough to get a team where it wants to go if you give him help. I know this because I have seen at least a dozen QBs not as good as Dak get to the Super Bowl. There has been at least a half dozen who have WON Super Bowls who were not as good as Dak. It's not Dak's fault Jerry keeps building teams around him with horrible flaws. Nor is it his fault that the league has lost its mind paying quarterbacks. I blame Dak for Dak's play. I don't blame him for receivers not getting open, defense not tackling, line not blocking and the play caller forgetting to call running plays. It's not that hard for me to analyze all these things in context. If I see a well thrown ball hit a receiver in the face and pop up into the air for a pick I am not mad at DAK for that. If I see a guy running wide open and Dak sails the ball out of bounds I do. If it's 3rd and 12 and all the receivers run 8 yard curls I blame McCarthy, not Dak. Though I might fault him for not audibling out of that nonsense. Apparently this discernment is more difficult for others. For some folks it has to be black and white..A guy is either great or he sucks. I have no such requirement. You don't appear to either.. kudos to you for that. It's a lot more enjoyable to talk football with people who are that way.
 

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There isnt a QB on this roster that is ever going to lead this team to anything meaningful.
How about a QB in NFL history because as long as that drunken gremlin and his ilk are involved there is no chance they win it all.
 

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The issue is that Rush exposes how crap Dak really is. We literally operate the exact same way with Rush. Dak brings nothing special and he’s paid like he’s a football god
we absolutely don't operate the same with with Rush. come on dude. that's a stretch that goes around the world, twice.

the offense averages less than 20 pts per game with Rush...this season, the only time the offense scored more than 20 points was against lowly Panthers who are vying for the top pick.

seriously. what do you people drink or smoke around here.

Dak is nothing special, but to think the guy who threw for 40 passing yards playing the whole game is anything close, is pathetic trolling.
 

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Rush on a vet min salary starting and 60m of cap space to improve the overall team with Jerry actually using it, gets us better results than Dak
we had 23M in cap space this year. yet we CHOSE not so sign anyone. what indications do you have that if we had cap space, we would sign any type of FAs?
 

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The sad part is that if Cooper Rush had stayed in at quarterback two years ago the Cowboys and would have been in the Super Bowl.
That year the Eagles went, but they were struggling at the end of the season. The 49'ers were just asserting themselves with Brock Purdy but weren't a match for the Cowboys if the Cowboys had a real quarterback in the game.
The 49'ers and the Eagles met for the NFC Championship game but the Cowboys were the best team in the NFC by the end of the season.
Dak did his usual choke job, and the 49'ers went on to face the Eagles in the championship game, but lost because Purdy was injured early. The Eagles had started the year string but limped into the playoffs.
Rush took over for Dak early that season and went 4-1. Dak came back in and the Cowboys struggled mightily against weak teams, but with weak competition still made the playoffs. The Lions,Colts, Titans and Texans all nearly beat the Cowboys because Dak shut down. All four were cellar dwellers that year.
Had Rush stayed in at quarterback the Cowboys would have won the NFC Championship.
actually, the facts were that cooper rush led offense averaged about 20 points. facts are the first time a team scored more than 20 points the cowboys got blown out, thus the cowboys got scored on more than 20 point 6 more times that year, thus probably lead to 6 more losses, which would have put the cowboys at 8 losses. that would mean sneaking into playoffs at best. given philly was #1 seed and the beat dallas twice, scoring 40 the second time, dallas probably gets blown out by eagles in playoffs again....the niners were 6th in scoring, having scored over 20 points 13 times no way cowboys get past niners when Rush couldn't beat a team that scored more than 20 on the cowboys, not only that, their defense was #2 in the league and rush struggled against average defenses, much less against a niners like defense, specially with his noodle arm and inability to throw more than 15 yards down field.
the vikings were 7th in scoring, similarly scoring more than 20 points 13 times....and Rush would struggle yet again....

so not sure what you are drinking. you are fantasizing again. you are not making any sense any more. worse than I have seen you in a long while. I think you are off the wagon again. I feel bad for you. please make sure you make your AA meetings. please stay away from any temptations. please take your meds to reduce your urge to do drugs or drink. get healthy. get mentally healthy. this is not a way to go through life. I know people call you a loser and it bears on you, but you are not a loser. you can do this champ....just stay on the wagon.
 

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we absolutely don't operate the same with with Rush. come on dude. that's a stretch that goes around the world, twice.

the offense averages less than 20 pts per game with Rush...this season, the only time the offense scored more than 20 points was against lowly Panthers who are vying for the top pick.

seriously. what do you people drink or smoke around here.

Dak is nothing special, but to think the guy who threw for 40 passing yards playing the whole game is anything close, is pathetic trolling.
Granted I'm talking overall and not just offensive production but with Dak at QB the Cowboys averaged 20.3 PPG. With Rush at QB its 21.1 PPG. How we get there with each QB looks radically different.

There are a ton of factors that can be argued but overall the end result has been the same regardless of the quarterback. With Dak we beat two bad teams, quality teams ran us off the field, and we beat a good not great team in Pittsburgh. So far under Rush we have a couple wins over bad teams, mostly blown off the field against better teams, and beat a good not great team in Washington.

I'm not going to say that Dak is crap like the other poster, but one thing I believe Rush has done is shown that this team can have similar results without Dak and he isnt the must keep or you're screwed level of QB he was made out to be after an All Pro year. Dak is certainly a better overall arm talent, and has the athletic ability to extend plays. Rush is barely an NFL talent but runs the offense like an extension of the play caller. I don't think their is a right or wrong answer here as to who gives you the best chance to win. 90% of the time if you can hold an opposing team to 20 points or less either guy is going to be able to win you games. When you allow more than 20+ points Dak at least gives you a shot, but you're typically still going to lose those games. This year 5 of 6 wins come with allowing 20 or less, All of their losses have come by giving up more than 20. Last year which may have been Daks best of his career they were 1-6 when giving up more than 20, 11-0 when giving up 20 or fewer. With how this team is built the race to 20 is what matters the vast majority of the time.
 

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Hahahahahah. First of all your premise is wrong. But let’s pretend you are right. And let’s even exaggerate and pretend we made the playoffs. Big flippin whoop. Are you silly enough to actually think this team would have a shot in the playoffs ?
Something in common with both our qb's I suppose.
 

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So the o line isn't playing better? The guy above you said so.

And zeke did get a 4 yard run in the 2 plays mm let him have. More than 'blade of grass' you're about ready to break out.
OOOOOOOH, a 4-yard run!!!!!

Case closed!!! 2016 Zeke is BACK!!!
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:
 

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OOOOOOOH, a 4-yard run!!!!!

Case closed!!! 2016 Zeke is BACK!!!
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:
You just hate being shown you were wrong. "Blade of grass" you said.

It figures you'd deflect...and then act like more smilies makes you funnier.

The point is the line does seem to be playing better. Can we maybe find civilized mature agreement in that?
 

Nav22

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You just hate being shown you were wrong. "Blade of grass" you said.

It figures you'd deflect...and then act like more smilies makes you funnier.

The point is the line does seem to be playing better. Can we maybe find civilized mature agreement in that?
LMAO, what the hell are you talking about?

I think you have the wrong guy. I never said this "blade of glass" quote you're attributing to me.

Yes, the OL is playing better.
 

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Meh... you'd have more than 6 wins if you were playing DB and saw a blocked punt coming toward you with a tie game <2 minutes on the opp side of the field......... as long as you were a street FA who hadnt been in the buidling over 2 weeks to become clinically retraded
 

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Qbr is nearly identical.

Dak 11 TD 8 Int
Rush 10 TD 3 Int

One is paid 60m the other is paid 6?

I’ll go with rush.
It's not Apples to Apples. Going with Rush is insane. And I couldn't care less if Dak plays or not, this cult love affair for a back up is weird.
 
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