I wish Henson would get a chance to play

[Cochese]

I do think that Henson got caught between Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells...I can't prove that...but to see Henson standing on the sidelines on Thanksgiving looking depressed as hell with Jerry standing next to him trying to encourage him, said alot to me. Henson is Jerry's guy.

Henson has very clearly always been Jerry's guy. The same way QC was his guy and the same way Chutch was his guy. Its just Jerry trying to be a business man trying to pull one over on the other teams in the league by getting a franchise QB as cheaply as possible.

 

[chinch]

Yeah, he might have been, but seems like BP finally managed to convince Jerry otherwise now.

Touché

 

[rcaldw]

Boy you Henson lovers are going to love this hypothetical...

What if.... bear with me...

Romo is the trade bait??

If that has been BP's plan all along. The media hype, etc. If Henson is the guy they want as the backup.





















Yeah probably not, but interesting to think about... Of course it would be a moot point if the Romo extension were finalized.

, that would make a great novel, but I don't think so. And Romo has looked very good. I do wonder if he has the tools to be a full time starter, but there is nothing he has done, outside of a couple of fumbles, that anyone can criticize during this preseason.

 

[Cochese]

I guess you are too young to remember any of the 5 championships ? 3 under the Current owner ?

Seeing as how the personnell completely changed in the years after the third super bowl victory, I think what you are talking about is largely irrelevant. Its not like Parcells took over the triplets, he took over a team of losers.

 

[SloppyOctopuss]

Ive rooted for both the QBs to suceed. My fam went to Michigan. So don't see me as a Henson basher. But lets not forget, he's not the only QB who came into this league with loads of talent only to amount to nothing. It takes more than talent to win, just ask Ryan Leaf.

Henson is better than Ryan Leaf, if he hadn't signed with the Yankees he would have been the #1 pick...he was that good in college.

Henson is still young enough to have an impact and I wouldn't be surprised if somebody inquires about him in the next few weeks in a possible trade.

 

[DeaconMoss]

he is finally done and will not see the field!

ROMO-ROMO-ROMO-ROMO!!!!

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

 

[RCowboyFan]

, that would make a great novel, but I don't think so. And Romo has looked very good. I do wonder if he has the tools to be a full time starter, but there is nothing he has done, outside of a couple of fumbles, that anyone can criticize during this preseason.

I can Exhibit one, today, his almost Int, on his out throw, in third quarter. The WR was very open, but ball took forever to get there, hence DB almost got the Int., i.e. he had time to recover.

Thats why I think Romo, once he starts few games, Defenses figure out his weakness. Of course, if BP can win with Quincy, he can win with Romo for sure.

 

[peplaw06]

, that would make a great novel, but I don't think so. And Romo has looked very good. I do wonder if he has the tools to be a full time starter, but there is nothing he has done, outside of a couple of fumbles, that anyone can criticize during this preseason.

I do think there is a lot of trade posturing going on in the NFL though. I think Matt Schaub is a good example. He is so highly touted by the Falcons that they are demanding a first round pick in return. But he's only played well mostly in preseason games.

Noise is being made for Romo as the starter. It seems obvious that he's not going to be the starter, anytime soon anyway. Someone may come inquiring about Romo and BP and JJ say "He's available for a 1st-2nd rounder." Someone may take the bait. You never know.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

...but to see Henson standing on the sidelines on Thanksgiving looking depressed as hell with Jerry standing next to him trying to encourage him, said alot to me. Henson is Jerry's guy.

I sat watching that game with a couple of Cowboys fans and they really didnt get what I was saying. I agree with that.

As chinch puts it though (kinda), if he did so well in europe the calls would be coming in for a trade from teams like NYJ. I certainly feel that he never got a fair shake to compete under Parcells.

 

[Cochese]

Henson is better than Ryan Leaf, if he hadn't signed with the Yankees he would have been the #1 pick...he was that good in college.

Henson is still young enough to have an impact and I wouldn't be surprised if somebody inquires about him in the next few weeks in a possible trade.

Okay... and if Peyton Manning spontaneously combusted in the fall of 1997, Ryan Leaf would have been the #1 pick. As it was, Leaf actually WAS a #2 pick, not something hypothetical from a 7 year old scouting report.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Why isn't Lenny Williams getting a chance to play?

 

[peplaw06]

Henson is better than Ryan Leaf, if he hadn't signed with the Yankees he would have been the #1 pick...he was that good in college.

Henson is still young enough to have an impact and I wouldn't be surprised if somebody inquires about him in the next few weeks in a possible trade.

IIRC Henson was never the full time starter at Michigan. He split time with Brady, then signed his minor league deal which prevented him from playing any more football. He may have eventually been a #1 pick if he had kept playing, but he wasn't going to be the number one pick based on what he actually did at Michigan.

 

[Cochese]

IIRC Henson was never the full time starter at Michigan. He split time with Brady, then signed his minor league deal which prevented him from playing any more football. He may have eventually been a #1 pick if he had kept playing, but he wasn't going to be the number one pick based on what he actually did at Michigan.

Henson started his junior(??) year after Brady left. He did only start 8 total games, though.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Seeing as how the personnell completely changed in the years after the third super bowl victory, I think what you are talking about is largely irrelevant. Its not like Parcells took over the triplets, he took over a team of losers.

He took over a franchise that had 5 Lombardi trophies. 3 under the current owner.

Do you not understand that ?

The expectations are high for a team with that type of league presence. You bring in a coach like Parcells and the bar is raised that much more.

Dont you know the rich history of winning that the Cowboys have enjoyed ?

Sad, really.

 

[RCowboyFan]

IIRC Henson was never the full time starter at Michigan. He split time with Brady, then signed his minor league deal which prevented him from playing any more football. He may have eventually been a #1 pick if he had kept playing, but he wasn't going to be the number one pick based on what he actually did at Michigan.

Revisionist history. He was full time starter in 2000, from game three, when he came back from fractured Foot injury. So he techinically he started 9 games as sole QB for Michigan, including the Bowl game.

He only split time with Brady during Brady's Junior and Senior year, and Brady's Senior year, they only split evenly first 3-4 games or at least Henson had significant series, and then last 2-3 games, Brady pretty much started and played whole game.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I can Exhibit one, today, his almost Int, on his out throw, in third quarter. The WR was very open, but ball took forever to get there, hence DB almost got the Int., i.e. he had time to recover.

Thats why I think Romo, once he starts few games, Defenses figure out his weakness. Of course, if BP can win with Quincy, he can win with Romo for sure.

That's the throw that also concerns me. Good DBs will break on his out throws
so he must get the throw out fast and with great timing.

I agree he looks like Joe Cool in the pocket, but before I take the cheese, I want to see him perform in a real game against a real defense that is game planned to defend him. I guarantee you defensive coordinators will break his game down and try and take away his comfort throws and make him do those things that aren't his strengths.

However, with the weapons we have, assuming T.O. gets on the field, he may be able to still make plays.

 

[Cochese]

He took over a franchise that had 5 Lombardi trophies. 3 under the current owner.

Do you not understand that ?

The expectations are high for a team with that type of league presence. You bring in a coach like Parcells and the bar is raised that much more.

Dont you know the rich history of winning that the Cowboys have enjoyed ?

Sad, really.

What are you trying to say? You were talking like BP took over a team of winners when in fact we were consistantly one of the worst teams in football. What happened in the past regarding championships was irrelevant after three 5-11 seasons. Things were bleak, we were BAD. No memories of 7 years ago could console me watching pieces of crap like Quincy Carter and Dwayne Goodrich. Those players werent used to winning. You thought we brought Parcells in one year removed from making the playoffs. Cant even remember 3 years ago?

Sad. Really.

 

[rcaldw]

That's the throw that also concerns me. Good DBs will break on his out throws
so he must get the throw out fast and with great timing.

I agree he looks like Joe Cool in the pocket, but before I take the cheese, I want to see him perform in a real game against a real defense that is game planned to defend him. I guarantee you defensive coordinators will break his game down and try and take away his comfort throws and make him do those things that aren't his strengths.

However, with the weapons we have, assuming T.O. gets on the field, he may be able to still make plays.

Both of you are spot on when it comes to the game planning element, that will be when you find out what a QB really has, when a defense has actually planned to STOP THAT PARTICULAR PLAYER.

 

[RCowboyFan]

That's the throw that also concerns me. Good DBs will break on his out throws
so he must get the throw out fast and with great timing.

I agree he looks like Joe Cool in the pocket, but before I take the cheese, I want to see him perform in a real game against a real defense that is game planned to defend him. I guarantee you defensive coordinators will break his game down and try and take away his comfort throws and make him do those things that aren't his strengths.

However, with the weapons we have, assuming T.O. gets on the field, he may be able to still make plays.

Yep, agree. And like I said, BP is good at planning around the QB strengths, especially, if Cowboyd do have as good of Defense as we think they might have, barring injuries. He probably limit Romo like he did with Quincy somewhat.

But I think where that plan might fall apart is in playoffs, especially if they further in playoffs. Then, you know, Brad Johnson isn't exactly strong armed. Although Brad doesn't seem to be a guy, who makes stupid plays, that Tony seems to be prone to do, occasionally. But it does seem like he has gotten much better at avoiding them this year so far, than previous years in Pre-season.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

What are you trying to say?

You thought we brought Parcells in one year removed from making the playoffs. Cant even remember 3 years ago?

If you dont know by now you wont.

And I explained less than 20 minutes ago about that. As HH31 would say, "reading comprehension"