If Dak has a year like last year, this will be his final year with the team

[khiladi]

NFL franchises have a lot of freedom. However, any that want to remain relevant have to do enough to provide their fans with hope. Sometimes that means a splashy WR signing, sometimes a coaching staff reset.

If Dak doesn't do something this season to restore some level of confidence in himself as a QB fans could have hope in, can you really trot him back out there for another season? How do you sell that to fans during the next offseason? Does the team not quit on you if you try to do that? It's more than just salary cap that will be considered.

Sometimes you just have to reshuffle the deck regardless of the costs.

Dak has never had this “confidence”. This tendency he displays is in his draft scouting report. It’s always been there.

It befuddles my mind when Dak became this HOF QB that suddenly “lost it”. No, he’s never been it.

 

[starfan1]

Unlike Dak, the excuses for Romo were valid…. the fact the Dak-bots have gone to lengths dis-crediting an OL that yielded multiple all-pros playing a minimum of 2 years together he walked into saying he doesn’t have enough time, while saying Zeke was a beast because of this OL, is comical.

It was only a matter of time, after Dak continued to fumble around with this short SB window that they’d start leveraging Romo’s “excuses” for themselves. Now their story is Dak and Romo faced the same issues with this FO.

No, they absolutely did not..

Ya sure thing dude whatever you say . Romo was a gunslinging fool who made crucial mistakes in crucial moments but if it makes you feel better to excuse his and not Daks so be it they both are flawed

 

[CowboyRoy]

If we are talking about using 1sts on average it would take 3 to get someone as good as Dak (based on history) so basically throw away Tyler Smith, Micah, and Lamb, and you can have a cheap Dak level QB for 5 years. Of course you then use that money saved to replace those players which costs more which is why people pay the QB in the first place.

Were totally in agreement. Its why were lucky to have Dak.

 

[Jarntt]

He didn't make 50 mil. He made 19mil. I'm sure you talking bout his next deal. But it kinda falls in the same box. He can sign a deal that's 50milAAV but he will make closer to 30mil AAV. And he'll have some money owed at the end of his career like romo had.

Yes his next deal. Guys are already going over $50M now. You can talk about pushing the cap hit back all you want but it doesn't matter you still have to account for it against the cap and if you want to spin it like that then add the dead money left from his current contract to those artificially low first years. You need value for your cap hit or you move on. Hopefully Dak will give us that value if we re-sign him. So for example, if we assume a low $20M cap hit in 2025 as the first year of the extension you need to add the $25M in dead money that is already going to 2025 right now from the current deal. You can't get around it

 

[Gator88]

Ya sure thing dude whatever you say . Romo was a gunslinging fool who made crucial mistakes in crucial moments but if it makes you feel better to excuse his and not Daks so be it they both are flawed

Romo's rep for turnovers in crucial moments is kind of silly for a guy that threw 2 career interceptions in 6 playoff games, one of which was a 4th and long with less than 20 seconds left and no timeouts where he had no choice but to throw to the endzone.

 

[starfan1]

Romo's rep for turnovers in crucial moments is kind of silly for a guy that threw 2 career interceptions in 6 playoff games, one of which was a 4th and long with less than 20 seconds left and no timeouts where he had no choice but to throw to the endzone.

Bobby carpenter loved him

 

[Verdict]

Dak will be here for the next 2 to 5 years regardless of what type of season he has. It is they way they wrote and caved on his contract.
Dak is in cruise control now. So we will see how much he really cares about winning, or just all money driven.
If he truly cares he will renegotiate and give cap relief on the $59 million hit in 2024.

I will wait and see how he rebounds this season, if they surround him with better OL protection and a few skill players. Make the defense a top 3 as well. He will need all the help he can get. He can't Carry the team, but he can be a very good navigator / bus driver. That is if calm water, no turbulence, and a well paved road with no pot holes. Whatever analogy one wants to use.

I am not so sure that’s true. I think the team would prefer to keep Dak around and build a team around him. But I think there is a legitimate chance that Dak’s greed and lack of success leads to him being off the team.

If Dak insists on setting the QB market again, I think the team may push away from the table. I would.

The fact that the team has worked on extending Dak but hasn’t done so yet is telling. If we choose a QB in this draft high, then the Cowboys are doing their due diligence and not approaching this situation with their pants around their ankles this time.

People thought the Cowboys wouldn’t cut Dez, or The Ewok either, but they both happened. Dak is trending down. It’s a different situation than the last time the contract was negotiated. It’s going to be hard to make a case that Dak has a lot more upside.

 

[Verdict]

I understand the perspective, but this only really works when you have that parachute player already in the building. Hurts for Wentz, Geno for Russell, Purdy+Lance for Garoppolo. Look at what happened to Washington when they moved on from Cousins with no real backup plan.

Do you gamble with a top 8 team on another day 3 rookie QB? Are you fishing for scraps on the FA market?

The Commanders have won as many championships as if they had kept him.

 

[Verdict]

Unless you can get a true upgrade, I don't see the point of changing out Dak with anyone available especially with an old guy like Rodgers or a guy like Jackson, who is one hit away from being ruined forever and hardly has availability as it is.

I think if anything Jerry/Stephen is upset about it, it has been Dak's injuries and availability the last couple years. I think that could lead to his eventual replacement more than his play. To even think about it they need to draft a QB that COULD possibly one day replace Dak. Until I see that, I'm not believing it will happen until they are forced to find a guy.

The Cowboys have seemed to learn from prior mistakes. They don’t always make the move as quickly as fans would like, but they do seem to learn from their past mistakes.

 

[Verdict]

If he doesn't take this team to the NFC Championship game he'll have one season left. Jerry will move on.

I am not sure if that’s the bright line or not, but I will say this: I Dak plays like he did last year, I think there is an above average chance that he is gone sooner rather than later.

I think the Cowboys will hedge their bets at QB in this draft. The team has been exceptionally quiet about their intentions this time around. The opportunity has to present itself but I think if the right opportunity arises the Cowboys pull the trigger on QB.

I think the Cowboys are growing frustrated not only with Dak’s level of play but Dak’s insistence on setting the market when he clearly does not merit that investment.

 

[Verdict]

There's a couple guys that bully their way through this forum with "hate" accusations. If you don't say exactly what they tell ya.

It's really against the rules to harass forum members like that but what can ya do?

There is one guy here that constantly approaches everything here as abrasively as possible. I don’t block anyone and I finally said to myself, is there literally anything that this guy could ever say that was worth anything?

When I determined the answer was no, I blocked him. It’s not a matter of having thin skin. Listening to him is like you live in a mansion, but you have to look at miles and miles of stinking dumpsters out your front door. What is the point? That is what people like him do to this website.

Spirited discourse is fine. Varied opinions are great. Even endless debates over Dak and Dak being drug into every thread is tolerable. But this website would be far better off without people like that on this website.

 

[Verdict]

Facts are, Zeke was a JAG as soon as the line became average. Pollard is better and more dynamic from day #1. You can't just broad paint brush that bouncing it outside isn't a good trait. Pollard can do that, Zeke never really could. Also Pollard is absolutely superior at making tacklers miss compared to Zeke ever was. Pollard checks a lot more boxes than Zeke except maybe blitz pickup. Zeke the $90 million blocker...

I can’t really buy into what you are selling, but I will say that Zeke’s dropoff was sudden and drastic. I’ll give you that.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

The Commanders have won as many championships as if they had kept him.

But were they competitive at all? If winning championships doesn’t matter then it doesn’t matter if you keep or dump Dak

 

[Verdict]

Maybe, but not many QBs will cost as much as Dak will, and a guy like Cousins at 36 years old for example may have to settle for 1-2 year deal. Now that may not actually be the best case scenario for the Cowboys as they may actually prefer a longer deal to spread money out more, but it's also possible that they would prefer a bridge QB to pay on a shorter deal while a young guy sits and develops. That 2nd option also allows them to backload deals for guys like Parsons, Diggs, Lamb, etc so the big money on them kicks in the same time Daks dead money would be off the books and a rookie QB deal takes over for whoever the new guy would be.

My guess is that Dak is here for the next few years, but my overall point is that if the Cowboys really want to move on they should have options.

Cousins would give us as much chance to win a SB as Dak, and I’m not a Cousins fan.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

bahahahhahahhaha.... do you even pay attention to this team??? Dak is likely to have an extension done right as we head into training camp.

What world are you living in?

An extension for Deek would be welcomed by the other 31 teams.

 

[Verdict]

But were they competitive at all? If winning championships doesn’t matter then it doesn’t matter if you keep or dump Dak

To some degree that is true. But you don’t know that for certain one way or the other. If we had a crystal ball, we would be set!

 

[Verdict]

An extension for Deek would be welcomed by the other 31 teams.

Well played. Here’s a dollah!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Only in Dallas, the fans want to get rid of the qb that led them to back to back 12 wins season. He didn't fare well in the SF game, but he didn't have much help after Pollard went down. The week before he annihilated the Tom Brady led team.

There it is. We are happy with the status quo.

 

[Verdict]

There it is. We are happy with the status quo.

This is why we cannot have nice things!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Dak has never had this “confidence”. This tendency he displays is in his draft scouting report. It’s always been there.

It befuddles my mind when Dak became this HOF QB that suddenly “lost it”. No, he’s never been it.

HOF QB.

2 career playoff wins...