If Dak has a year like last year, this will be his final year with the team

[CowboyRoy]

Dak year seven: 23 TD passes, 15 INTs, 91.1 passer rating, 8-4 regular season record.

Peyton year seven: 49 TD passes, 10 INTs, 121.1 passer rating, 12-4 regular season record.

Those look very different to me.

Stats are for losers. Winning is all that matters. 12-5, 12-4

 

[CowboyRoy]

we all know that the next mahomes or Burrow doesn’t happen everyday but this team has neglecting the Qb position for years and it has nothing to do with Dakota

in the last 2 decades the highest we’ve drafted a qb was in the 4th round. That’s a disgrace and a disservice to the fans. This FO has purposely refused to have any competition at the QB position and we’ve seen the results.

let this sink in……since 2012 we’ve only drafted 2 quarterbacks. Prescott and DeNucci ….seriously?

people think that it takes a miracle to get that next franchise quarterback that can have a better play-off record than the last 2 guys here which is 4-8…..it doesn’t take a miracle if they DRAFT quarterbacks before the 4th damn round!

Bwaaaaaa!!!!

17 years of romo to dak is an enbarrassment of riches. Learn football

 

[stiletto]

people think that it takes a miracle to get that next franchise quarterback that can have a better play-off record than the last 2 guys here which is 4-8…..it doesn’t take a miracle if they DRAFT quarterbacks before the 4th damn round!

You mean like Quincy Carter?

 

[DallasEast]

You mean like Quincy Carter?

Who all Dallas fans should remember was, according to Jones (wink wink), planned to not play immediately because he acquired Tony Banks to start while Carter learned under him. And the self-appointed for life general manager changed that so-called plan before Carter's rookie regular season began.

 

[stiletto]

Who all Dallas fans should remember was, according to Jones (wink wink), planned to not play immediately because he acquired Tony Banks to start while Carter learned under him. And the self-appointed for life general manager changed that so-called plan before Carter's rookie regular season began.

I can only imagine the continued horror if they hadn't lucked into Romo and Prescott. People have short memories.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Respectfully disagree. Rams made the Super Bowl with Goff.. saw an upgrade. Traded the big contract and won a Super Bowl with Stafford. SF made multiple SB runs with Jimmy G. They tried to get Brady, Rodgers moved up in the draft to get Lance. Lance can’t stay healthy but at least they recognized a problem. Dallas sticks too long with players that just don’t move the needle.

Where are they now? Giving away all their talent is where they are!

 

[starfan1]

That line was SUPERB! I mean that's how it works. Win in the trenches they say. We've barely even half-arsed addressed this deteriorating o line since and we better pronto. Make Tony "showcase his speed to the outside"...AGAIN? Not gonna work as #1 RB.

Oh wait...zeke's fault! never mind.

I’m not trying to dig on zeke but I don’t think Tony gets enough credit. Again he doesn’t need to be a #1 zeke hasn’t been either

 

[KJJ]

You won't find a bigger Dak fan anywhere then me. But even I can see the writing on he wall. He's not Jerrys choice. I've said this since his rookie yr. Jerry wouldn't even entertain the idea of having him starter over Romo even with him t taking the league by storm that first yr. AND it's not like Jerry doesn't throw a sunrise jab at da fk every chance he gets. I think that contract negotiation and his agent hoping the price every time they talk he was the last straw for Jerry.

If he has a yr anywhere like last yr, this will ge his final yr with the team IMO. He has 61 mil still guaranteed, and a 59mil cap hit next yr. So they can make him a June cut and save 28.5mil. Get 28.5 mil in june to sign guys like Ceedee and Diggs. Of course you have a huge hole but it is and eat it is.

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/tennessee-titans-salary-cap-space-2024
Overthecap is projecting 256mil cap in 2024 and Dallas has 46 players under contract. Which means Dallas has the 51 cap number basically set. As of right now Dallas has 6.4mil in caproom another 6 in June. Dallas will need around 3mil to pay their rookies. So take 9mil in rollover for 2024. With OTC projections Dallas could walk into 2024 with a 265 mil adjected cap with 212mil already allocated. So they can have 43mil in cap space.

Now say Dak is just not getting it done, moving on from him wouldn't kill the team because they've drafted so good. The majority of the team is on rookie deals. This forum has hated this deal since it was signed because they saw 40mil AAV, but he's had 21Mil AAV since signing his deal and we're in yr 3 of 4. This shows you this team knows what they're doing with their contracts. Yeah 30mil is a big chunk, but it's alot better than 59mil. And that's 30mil for nothing just dead money if he's gone. But it doesn't kill you because you have 46 players already signed. And the core is already under contract.

In response to your thread title you’re wrong! Dak had a lot of INT’s’ but he didn’t have a terrible season or we wouldn’t have made the playoffs. Despite the INTs he still went 8-4. The Cowboys aren’t moving on from him until they find a better option. Jerry isn’t about to leave his team without a viable QB.

 

[PlantMySeed]

Dak best QB.

 

[KJJ]

If the Cowboys were to move on from Dak and go with a lesser QB they would be battling Washington for the basement in the NFC East. If Washington had a viable QB, they would be competing for the NFC East title every season. If you don’t have a QB a 17 game season is going to be a real struggle.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Where are they now? Giving away all their talent is where they are!

Would you trade that for a Superbowl win or a Superbowl loss and 2 NFC championship games..

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I’m not trying to dig on zeke but I don’t think Tony gets enough credit. Again he doesn’t need to be a #1 zeke hasn’t been either

Well I think he gets a TON of credit. We'll hear about how Tony benched Zeke...like Dak benched Romo.

Hard to believe how well we (usually) get along and how different we perceive things. Tony gets a TON of love and credit. The [B]ONLY[/B] thing I EVER "criticized" him for...and I'm running loose with this...is that he's never been the lead #1 RB since at least high school. It';s not even a criticism it's an observation. FACT.

So I'm leery of counting on him for that. Don't count your chickens before their hatched sort of thing. I was positive about zeke because he "LEAD BACKED" against the very best the NCAA had to throw at him...not just being on the team but like 750 yard and 8 TD in four games. Against the best incl;duing media darling duck and (destoryed) mighty 'bama.

I still think that's why roy has always hated him. bama fan.

I know you don't want to hear all that nonsense and lies...

In the meantime hope like holy "HECK"...we fired KM with a real plan to give Tony a REAL run game. Not not force him to do stupid O line blocking like we did Zeke. NOT that he can't. I don't want him to. Try to have some measure of respect with THIS one.

 

[stiletto]

If the Cowboys were to move on from Dak and go with a lesser QB they would be battling Washington for the basement in the NFC East. If Washington had a viable QB, they would be competing for the NFC East title every season. If you don’t have a QB a 17 game season is going to be a real struggle.

The resident QB experts have seen enough of 12-5....On to the next Mahomes! LOL, like no one else would be on the lookout.

 

[starfan1]

Well I think he gets a TON of credit. We'll hear about how Tony benched Zeke...like Dak benched Romo.

Hard to believe how well we (usually) get along and how different we perceive things. Tony gets a TON of love and credit. The [B]ONLY[/B] thing I EVER "criticized" him for...and I'm running loose with this...is that he's never been the lead #1 RB since at least high school. It';s not even a criticism it's an observation. FACT.

So I'm leery of counting on him for that. Don't count your chickens before their hatched sort of thing. I was positive about zeke because he "LEAD BACKED" against the very best the NCAA had to throw at him...not just being on the team but like 750 yard and 8 TD in four games. Against the best incl;duing media darling duck and (destoryed) mighty 'bama.

I still think that's why roy has always hated him. bama fan.

I know you don't want to hear all that nonsense and lies...

In the meantime hope like holy "HECK"...we fired KM with a real plan to give Tony a REAL run game. Not not force him to do stupid O line blocking like we did Zeke. NOT that he can't. I don't want him to. Try to have some measure of respect with THIS one.

I think you are being presumptuous about 2 things
. That the cowboys are gonna use him as a 1
. That he can’t do it

That said zeke hasn’t been a 1 since 2020 and the cowboys took too long incorporating a 60/40 split

But you’re right moore has imo been the biggest issue on offense he’s impacted more than just zeke

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Facts are, Zeke was a JAG as soon as the line became average. Pollard is better and more dynamic from day #1. You can't just broad paint brush that bouncing it outside isn't a good trait. Pollard can do that, Zeke never really could. Also Pollard is absolutely superior at making tacklers miss compared to Zeke ever was. Pollard checks a lot more boxes than Zeke except maybe blitz pickup. Zeke the $90 million blocker...

But you can't say that. Not yet.

SO our #2 have always had OBSCENE numbers. Tony's is actually a bit lower than some. Have they excelled when they went #1? Not they didn't. For a reason. I'm not saying Tony is those nutcases...but he just hasn;t done it...YET.

Things change when the defense keys on you and schemes you. You are no longer an afterthought that we can afford to call only the plays you are good at. "in space"...right? That's what we wanted...get tony the ball in space.

We're gonna have to pound the rock.

"bouncing to the outside"....yes good but why should he HAVE to. HE should be chewing up REAL yards up the field through a REAL hole instead of wasting 10 yards. WASTED resources doing it that much. No wonder he gets gassed.

Zeke the "90 million" blocker...covering a for a stupid o line and protecting our 150 million QB. If we fix this o-line (yes it NEEDS fixed or we wouldn't have to think of Zeke as a fb)..

and Tony and co. will be fine.

Why we asked zeke to fullback and get this..play fraking CENTER? ...is a dam sin. Did barry snaders have to block like that? They wwere smart enough yto not tell him to. We...are STUPID. Wasted another great player/

Hope like HE ll we dont; do it to Tony.

 

[KJJ]

The resident QB experts have seen enough of 12-5....On to the next Mahomes! LOL, like no one else would be on the lookout.

There’s been a number of fans saying we need to move on from Dak and find our Mahomes as if that’s going to be easy. I’m convinced some fans on this board think QBs like Mahomes grow on trees.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I think you are being presumptuous about 2 things
. That the cowboys are gonna use him as a 1
. That he can’t do it

That said zeke hasn’t been a 1 since 2020 and the cowboys took too long incorporating a 60/40 split

But you’re right moore has imo been the biggest issue on offense he’s impacted more than just zeke

1) never said they were
2) never said he couldn't.

Talk about presumptuous!

I agree with you they may use him as a DIFFERENT kind of #1 than others...like zeke. Hopefully MM has a plan.

#1 doesn't mean you HAVE to be the battering ram. I look at #1 WR the same way. If CeeDee is going to assume #1....he's NOT your typical one. It's okay.

Zeke has been battling injuries in 2021 and 2022. People don't want to ackowledge that...thay made him play in 2021. Unforgivable. They sat him in 2022 for a bit. But thanks for pointing out he wasn;t the same those two years.

Get him some rest...get him healthy he can still RB.

IN the meantime...I'm praying tony gets healthy and we use HIM...properly. With SOME respect.

 

[tomokawan]

Do you disagree that Zeke was running behind the best Oline in the league his rookie season?? What happened if it was all Zeke? Why couldn't he do it after Frederick left? Dude was running through wide-open spaces his first couple years.

And how many yards did the previous back run with that O-line?? Zeke was great. How soon we choose to forget when we want to support our narrative.

 

[stiletto]

And how many yards did the previous back run with that O-line?? Zeke was great. How soon we choose to forget when we want to support our narrative.

Demarco Murray ran pretty well behind Frederick and Zach too. That line/scheme was good. I think the narrative is in the middle. Zeke wasn't as great as some people say and he wasn't bad as some others say. I think he was a flash in the pan that had the benefit of an amazing Core offensive line. It got a lot of people excited and they put his name on their backs.. so I understand why some defend him so ardently. No biggie. I don't hate the guy, just don't think he was ever THAT amazing is all.

 

[JBS]

It’s literally impossible w his cap charge next year. Y’all don’t have a clue