If Dak has a year like last year, this will be his final year with the team

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We have already offered solutions in the past. I'm not going to bang on and on with solutions when #4 will be kept in place. It just gets boring.

For starters I wrote countless posts how Hurts should have been drafted in the second round. We could have ridden his rookie contract the past two seasons and worst case scenario reach the Superbowl last season.
BWAAAAAAA!!!! You obviously dont understand about team football. You think Hurts got them there all on his own? He was surrounded by one of the best teams in recent memory and he still lost.

He threw for 100 yards and beat the Niners in the playoffs. Didnt even have to break a sweat with that team around him.

You swap teams and QB's and Dak get the Eagles to the SB. Hurts would have trouble making the playoffs with the Cowboys team. With only Ceedee Lamb throw to and Zeke Elliott leading the running game. LOL
 

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LOL..........You are probably right. That being said your hyper criticism is unfounded.

Dak isnt my favorite active player. Not even close. I just understand the value and rarity of a top 10 QB in the NFL.

If there is one thing I dont forget its the Quincy Carter Chad Hutchinson, Testicleverde years.

If we move on from Dak, its more than likely exactly right back where we are going to be. I know the trolls think we can just draft an elite QB every year. Some of us understand going back to Quincy Bong Carter is more likely.
Like I said I don't think it'll happen, but it could. People seem to think this team is stuck with him, and releasing him would destroy this teams cap. This was just show that it wouldn't. He'll probably extend and his cap hit will be around 20 mil next yr. Imagine what this team could do with another 39mil of cap room added to a projected 43mil if OTC numbers are close.

The smartest thing would be to extend him.
 

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Like I said I don't think it'll happen, but it could. People seem to think this team is stuck with him, and releasing him would destroy this teams cap. This was just show that it wouldn't. He'll probably extend and his cap hit will be around 20 mil next yr. Imagine what this team could do with another 39mil if cap room added to a projected 43mil if OTC number are close.

The smartest thing would be to extend him.
We agree on that 100%. And I am sure they will extend him. Should keep the window going for another 2 years at least after this year.
 

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BWAAAAAAA!!!! You obviously dont understand about team football. You think Hurts got them there all on his own? He was surrounded by one of the best teams in recent memory and he still lost.

He threw for 100 yards and beat the Niners in the playoffs. Didnt even have to break a sweat with that team around him.

You swap teams and QB's and Dak get the Eagles to the SB. Hurts would have trouble making the playoffs with the Cowboys team. With only Ceedee Lamb throw to and Zeke Elliott leading the running game. LOL
If Purdy doesn't get hurt I think they beat philly.
 

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Dak will be here long enough for us to start loving his broken down self.
 

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If Purdy doesn't get hurt I think they beat philly.
Philly was running all over them those first two quarters. Badly. I dont agree with you there.

Maybe on another day possibly. You have the #1 Oline in football and the #2 offense in the NFL with the #1 pass rush and you can put anyone back there. I thought Hurts had a great season, but he got much more credit than he deserved. But this is what happens when teams do well. We see it all the time.
 

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BWAAAAAAA!!!! You obviously dont understand about team football. You think Hurts got them there all on his own? He was surrounded by one of the best teams in recent memory and he still lost.

He threw for 100 yards and beat the Niners in the playoffs. Didnt even have to break a sweat with that team around him.

You swap teams and QB's and Dak get the Eagles to the SB. Hurts would have trouble making the playoffs with the Cowboys team. With only Ceedee Lamb throw to and Zeke Elliott leading the running game. LOL
I'm afraid you do not understand football.

Where did I state that Hurts got the Eagles there all on his own?

Did you watch the Superbowl? I presume not because aside from a freakish play where the ball slipped out of hands - don't worry #4 has done this plenty of times, Hurts was sensational in the Superbowl. He came up big when the team needed him. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either so biased they are unable to be objective or they are are just plain stupid - which one are you? Biased or dumb or both?

Yes, Hurts was intelligent enough to play within himself against the 49ers and enjoy the ride having been a key component in helping the team secure the #1 seed.

Hurts would have trouble reaching the play offs with the Cowboys? Are you 4 years old? A cr@p practice squad QB went 4-1 with the same roster as Prescott last season. It could be argued the Cowboys reached the play offs in spite of Prescott! The irony given your incorrect assertion.

Hurts is an All Pro. Is Prescott?

In order to beat the 49ers in the play offs last season the Cowboys just needed a QB to make a few plays and not throw a couple of needless, brainless and idiotic interceptions.

Consider yourself OWNED.

You will embarrass yourself with more random sweeping statements based on your own misplaced opinion. Bore me some more.
 

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You won't find a bigger Dak fan anywhere then me. But even I can see the writing on he wall. He's not Jerrys choice. I've said this since his rookie yr. Jerry wouldn't even entertain the idea of having him starter over Romo even with him t taking the league by storm that first yr. AND it's not like Jerry doesn't throw a sunrise jab at da fk every chance he gets. I think that contract negotiation and his agent hoping the price every time they talk he was the last straw for Jerry.

If he has a yr anywhere like last yr, this will ge his final yr with the team IMO. He has 61 mil still guaranteed, and a 59mil cap hit next yr. So they can make him a June cut and save 28.5mil. Get 28.5 mil in june to sign guys like Ceedee and Diggs. Of course you have a huge hole but it is and eat it is.

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/tennessee-titans-salary-cap-space-2024
Overthecap is projecting 256mil cap in 2024 and Dallas has 46 players under contract. Which means Dallas has the 51 cap number basically set. As of right now Dallas has 6.4mil in caproom another 6 in June. Dallas will need around 3mil to pay their rookies. So take 9mil in rollover for 2024. With OTC projections Dallas could walk into 2024 with a 265 mil adjected cap with 212mil already allocated. So they can have 43mil in cap space.

Now say Dak is just not getting it done, moving on from him wouldn't kill the team because they've drafted so good. The majority of the team is on rookie deals. This forum has hated this deal since it was signed because they saw 40mil AAV, but he's had 21Mil AAV since signing his deal and we're in yr 3 of 4. This shows you this team knows what they're doing with their contracts. Yeah 30mil is a big chunk, but it's alot better than 59mil. And that's 30mil for nothing just dead money if he's gone. But it doesn't kill you because you have 46 players already signed. And the core is already under contract.
umm no i guess 63 tds to 25 iNTs over 2 seasons in which they went B2B 12 wins and a 2nd round berths, sure he sux cut the guy, Daniel jones is Jag and got a new deal he barely has 60 tds for his entire career dak has 63 the last 2 seasons. 2021 37 tds 10 INT,

,.even at his alleged worst which was due to some situations dak cant control with the OL, WRs, and OC etc he had one season with a higher INT ratio.. odd Stafford is getting his 50mil guaranteed bonus aster throwing 17 INT the year before and 2 INTs in the SB then getting hurt and playing like garbage the last year, they kept him anyway, no he didn't win that SB by himself would be nice if dak could ahve a team that got his back when he wasn't perfect,

show me the last 2 season comp of all the top 10 QBS and il bet daks number are on par or better then most. Look at scoring and 3rd down % comp,% ..his downfall is a fan thing.. watch that breakdown of Martz video 7 INT not in daks control.. watch the playoff game against the 9ers both year OL and Run game not good at all almost nonexistent.. this is NOT a hotseat prove it year LOL
 

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I'm afraid you do not understand football.

Where did I state that Hurts got the Eagles there all on his own?

Did you watch the Superbowl? I presume not because aside from a freakish play where the ball slipped out of hands - don't worry #4 has done this plenty of times, Hurts was sensational in the Superbowl. He came up big when the team needed him. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either so biased they are unable to be objective or they are are just plain stupid - which one are you? Biased or dumb or both?

Yes, Hurts was intelligent enough to play within himself against the 49ers and enjoy the ride having been a key component in helping the team secure the #1 seed.

Hurts would have trouble reaching the play offs with the Cowboys? Are you 4 years old? A cr@p practice squad QB went 4-1 with the same roster as Prescott last season. It could be argued the Cowboys reached the play offs in spite of Prescott! The irony given your incorrect assertion.

Hurts is an All Pro. Is Prescott?

Consider yourself OWNED.

You will embarrass yourself with more random sweeping statements based on your own misplaced opinion. Bore me some more.
Dude, Hurts had one good year so far with an "all-in" loaded team. A much better team than Dak has ever had. He also looked pretty terrible his rookie season. Cowboys fans would've melted down over his rookie year. Face it, it's a team game. Dak has had multiple good/great seasons. It's a little early to say Hurts is all world. Lets see how he does with a more depleted team next year.
 
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Assuming another quick Playoff exit, I think Big Mac gets the boot before Dak.

Jerry holds on to vets until they’re old, crippled, and have no resell value.
 

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I'm afraid you do not understand football.

Where did I state that Hurts got the Eagles there all on his own?

Did you watch the Superbowl? I presume not because aside from a freakish play where the ball slipped out of hands - don't worry #4 has done this plenty of times, Hurts was sensational in the Superbowl. He came up big when the team needed him. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either so biased they are unable to be objective or they are are just plain stupid - which one are you? Biased or dumb or both?

Yes, Hurts was intelligent enough to play within himself against the 49ers and enjoy the ride having been a key component in helping the team secure the #1 seed.

Hurts would have trouble reaching the play offs with the Cowboys? Are you 4 years old? A cr@p practice squad QB went 4-1 with the same roster as Prescott last season. It could be argued the Cowboys reached the play offs in spite of Prescott! The irony given your incorrect assertion.

Hurts is an All Pro. Is Prescott?

In order to beat the 49ers in the play offs last season the Cowboys just needed a QB to make a few plays and not throw a couple of needless, brainless and idiotic interceptions.

Consider yourself OWNED.

You will embarrass yourself with more random sweeping statements based on your own misplaced opinion. Bore me some more.
What was Hurts record before he had his all world squad surrounding him in 2021?

Ill save you the embarrassment of looking it up. Eagles were 9-8 and missed the playoffs.

NEXT!!!!

Wait but you said that Rush was better than Dak? Now he sucks?

Consider yourself owned!!! :lmao:
 

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Dude, Hurts had one good year so far with an "all-in" loaded team. A much better team than Dak has ever had. He also looked pretty terrible his rookie season. Cowboys fans would've melted down over his rookie year. Face it, it's a team game. Dak has had multiple good/great seasons. It's a little earlier to say Hurts is all world. Lets see how he does with a more depleted team next year.
The Eagles' D and defensive coordinator lost the Eagles the Superbowl. Yes, the offense was strong and Hurts was a big part of that. Minshew isn't a world beater yet a competent NFL QB and the offense fell flat on its face without Hurts.

Dak hasn't had to play on a bad team - Hurts did in his first season with an injury ravaged year for the Eagles' starters. It's unwise to judge him based on that.

I'm not claiming Hurts to be Tom Brady...but he's clearly a better QB than the regressing Prescott.
 

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Everyone is replaceable but you diarrhea whiners offer ZERO solutions.... Sam Darnold?!?! :laugh::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Why didn't Jerry replace Aikman? You trust them to get the right QB again? You obviously don't know pain yet.
I'm the one who has been giving solutions. I wanted Dallas to draft Hurts, Tua, Lawrence. Make trades and get some dam pedigree that doesn't choke. I didn't say go get Sam Darnold I said he could of won that game. And yeah I did say draft Will Levis if he is available at that 26th pick.
Now is the time to start searching for his replacement. Since you don't realize it the college QBs today are more prepared to transition to the NFL so finding one shouldn't be as hard as after Aikman was gone. Talk about pain, I hope you enjoyed that 49ers game. I'll be thinking about you when it happens again next year.
 

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The Eagles' D and defensive coordinator lost the Eagles the Superbowl. Yes, the offense was strong and Hurts was a big part of that. Minshew isn't a world beater yet a competent NFL QB and the offense fell flat on its face without Hurts.

Dak hasn't had to play on a bad team - Hurts did in his first season with an injury ravaged year for the Eagles' starters. It's unwise to judge him based on that.

I'm not claiming Hurts to be Tom Brady...but he's clearly a better QB than the regressing Prescott.
Mike Marts doesnt agree with you. You clearly dont understand football.

Cowboys Oline last year was well below average. Other than Lamb who was he throwing to? Zeke leading the running game? BWAAAAA!!!!

Learn football and then come on back to the conversation.
 

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I'm the one who has been giving solutions. I wanted Dallas to draft Hurts, Tua, Lawrence. Make trades and get some dam pedigree that doesn't choke. I didn't say go get Sam Darnold I said he could of won that game. And yeah I did say draft Will Levis if he is available at that 26th pick.
Now is the time to start searching for his replacement. Since you don't realize it the college QBs today are more prepared to transition to the NFL so finding one shouldn't be as hard as after Aikman was gone. Talk about pain, I hope you enjoyed that 49ers game. I'll be thinking about you when it happens again next year.
All assumptions and no basis in actual fact. More QB's with "Pedigree" have totally bombed in history than actually succeeded. It's a shot in the dark nearly every time. Tua, Lawrence? They haven't looked great either. You are pulling stuff out of your arse.
 

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You won't find a bigger Dak fan anywhere then me. But even I can see the writing on he wall. He's not Jerrys choice. I've said this since his rookie yr. Jerry wouldn't even entertain the idea of having him starter over Romo even with him t taking the league by storm that first yr. AND it's not like Jerry doesn't throw a sunrise jab at da fk every chance he gets. I think that contract negotiation and his agent hoping the price every time they talk he was the last straw for Jerry.

If he has a yr anywhere like last yr, this will ge his final yr with the team IMO. He has 61 mil still guaranteed, and a 59mil cap hit next yr. So they can make him a June cut and save 28.5mil. Get 28.5 mil in june to sign guys like Ceedee and Diggs. Of course you have a huge hole but it is and eat it is.

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/tennessee-titans-salary-cap-space-2024
Overthecap is projecting 256mil cap in 2024 and Dallas has 46 players under contract. Which means Dallas has the 51 cap number basically set. As of right now Dallas has 6.4mil in caproom another 6 in June. Dallas will need around 3mil to pay their rookies. So take 9mil in rollover for 2024. With OTC projections Dallas could walk into 2024 with a 265 mil adjected cap with 212mil already allocated. So they can have 43mil in cap space.

Now say Dak is just not getting it done, moving on from him wouldn't kill the team because they've drafted so good. The majority of the team is on rookie deals. This forum has hated this deal since it was signed because they saw 40mil AAV, but he's had 21Mil AAV since signing his deal and we're in yr 3 of 4. This shows you this team knows what they're doing with their contracts. Yeah 30mil is a big chunk, but it's alot better than 59mil. And that's 30mil for nothing just dead money if he's gone. But it doesn't kill you because you have 46 players already signed. And the core is already under contract.
They're not moving on with that giant cap hit, June 1st cut or not.

Look for one sign that might lead to him playing his last year. A year they don't restructure his contract to lower his cap hit. They restructured him this year. That tells us he's staying next year. Even if he plays poorly this year.
 

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The Eagles' D and defensive coordinator lost the Eagles the Superbowl. Yes, the offense was strong and Hurts was a big part of that. Minshew isn't a world beater yet a competent NFL QB and the offense fell flat on its face without Hurts.

Dak hasn't had to play on a bad team - Hurts did in his first season with an injury ravaged year for the Eagles' starters. It's unwise to judge him based on that.

I'm not claiming Hurts to be Tom Brady...but he's clearly a better QB than the regressing Prescott.
Every Garrett coached team was pretty bad. The defenses were always choke artists. Aaron Rodgers completed a 3rd and forever pass in the second playoff game his rookie year. Last year the front office was brilliant and thought Clifford Franklin (aka Noah Brown) could replace Amari Cooper. I don't like excuses but some of the things are just insane. Hurts didn't have to worry about much last year. He'll have to earn his money going forward.
 

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bahahahhahahhaha.... do you even pay attention to this team??? Dak is likely to have an extension done right as we head into training camp.

What world are you living in?
I could be wrong, and often am, but I don't think he's getting an extension this year. I say this because they already restructured his contract. They wouldn't have to do that if they planned on giving him an extension, since extensions are essentially restructures as well.
 

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We have already offered solutions in the past. I'm not going to bang on and on with solutions when #4 will be kept in place. It just gets boring.

For starters I wrote countless posts how Hurts should have been drafted in the second round. We could have ridden his rookie contract the past two seasons and worst case scenario reach the Superbowl last season.
I'm not sure Dallas uses Hurts the way Philly uses him. It took Chicago 2 seasons to figure out how to use Fields. Now they just have to put the team around him.

You can't just plug and play Hurts into any offense. It has to be a run heavy RPO utilizing the QB that forces the safeties to cheat up against the run. Then they pass. Dak faces more pass defenses in a week than Hurts faces all year.

Me personally, I hate that offense. It has a short shelf life. Your offense has to have no weaknesses. It lasted for 1 year in Baltimore. Lets see how long it goes in Philly.
 
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