If it's about the QB why is SF getting all this hype over Dallas?

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I think Frisco will be the outlier.
Already are. Problem is, it's just so hard to keep a D like that together, and to consistently win w/o a franchise type QB. Even an average franchise QB like Eli or Bradshaw or Wilson.

And then the problem nowadays is that average QB's are getting a ton of money, which straps the team and makes them more mediocre.
 

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I think the 49ers are going to have some problems with Purdy as their QB. Once a couple of games of film are on him.

Their oline, run game, and defense are going to have to play perfect in order to go far.
Purdy is actually a very nice prospect, just don't know if it's as a backup or low level starter. He's got some skills and knows how to play, question is at what level.
 

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I didn't say that QB is unimportant. I just pointed out that how this Niners team is structured you don't necessary need a good QB on that team to be successful.
Disagree. Don't need a great QB, but you do need a good one.
 

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Maybe because they played in the NFC champ game last year?
 

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They have the best defense in football.

I think them losing Jimmy G certainly helps but home field advantage is also huge.
They have the best defense because of the softest schedule in football history. I wanna see them shut down Dallas, Minnesota, Philly .Kansas City or Cincinnati.
 

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and yet with all their legendary coaching, they havent won a SB since 1994.
I've been saying this for a long time. All their superiority has gotten them is an also ran label. No Super Bowl wins since 1994. Which, according to my math is LONGER than Dallas' drought. And don't give me that playoff success crap. Zero wins + zero wins = zero wins.
 

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The 49ers have the #1 defense in both yards and points.

This has happened 20 times since the merger in 1970.

Seven of those teams played in the Super Bowl. Twelve of them played in their conference championship game.

When a team is the best defense in both points and yards, that is dominant. It is so dominant that you can take a very mediocre offense deep into the playoffs.

The Seattle Seahawks offenses in 2013 and 2014 were not prolific. Neither were the 2004 and 2008 Pittsburgh Steelers. Any team that could win a Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer had to require a dominant defense like Tampa Bay in 2002.

The point is, with a defense like that all you need is busdriver QB and an offense that doesn't make mistakes and takes advantage of the excellent field position gifted by that defense. This is what makes SF the true dangerous team in the NFC.

The reason the media seems to focus so much on the Cowboys is because they have the largest global market. More fans are likely to tune in if the subject happens to be the Cowboys and they know this. It's why Skip is a Cowboys fan. It's also the reason Stephen Smith pretends to be such a hater. Corporate media is all about ratings which equals money.
They can't play Carolina and New Orleans every week of the playoffs. Their "legendary" defense will be tested big time
 

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I think you meant two here? Losing to the Ravens and then the Chiefs. What was the other one?

But you are correct they that they have been more successful that the Cowboys and have shown they can win GAMES with just middling QB play but they have yet to show they can win CHAMPIONSHIPS with that model. Nothing that happened last year or any year before makes them better than this year's Cowboys. If they meet up I expect it to be a slugfest. Two monster defenses, two great offensive lines, two wonderful running back groups. Two receiving corps with one stud and several guys at various levels of decent. The tie breaker ironically would be at QB. If Dak is who we want him to be he needs to outperform the rookie plain and simple. With the rookie facing our defense that really shouldn't be that hard. I think a lot of people have forgotten that Dak actually had a better game in the playoff last year than Garoppolo. He just didn't get the 170 yards rushing to help him out like Garoppolo did.
Be careful Ronnie, you'll offend people here with facts. Its just annoying to hear everyone project San Fran as this highly trained juggernaut. This year, they have been an ENORMOUS beneficiary of a powder puff schedule. If/when the Niners shut down and beat the Eagles in Philly, then I'll be happy to give them props.
 

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In addition to the Niners being a better team in many aspects like coaching, defense, play design, and running game - they also have another advantage over us: they are not soft.
 

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Don't count Brock Purdy out. I watched the kid play 4 years at ISU. He was good for at least 2 wins each season all on his own. San Fran could surprise everyone with him just as the bus driver.
 

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Don't count Brock Purdy out. I watched the kid play 4 years at ISU. He was good for at least 2 wins each season all on his own. San Fran could surprise everyone with him just as the bus driver.

Brock Purdy could be the second coming of Joe Montana and I still wouldn't bet a dollar on him to win anything. Rookies aint ready for playoff football. We've seen this time and again. A great defense and a running game can get you to a certain point. We saw it happen with Sanchez and the Jets and Wilson with the Seahawks. But at some point a rookie QB is going to be a rookie QB. He's going to come up on a DC who knows how to undress a rookie QB and that will be that.
 

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Yes, there are some power ranking that has Dallas as high as #2, behind the iggles. Most place SF above Dallas, which makes no sense. These analyst keep saying "without a QB, you're not going anywhere."

So, I'm to believe a rookie QB who barley was drafted is better than a Pro Bowl QB who was in the discussion for MVP last year? Really?

There is far too much biasness towards Dallas. The media blames it on Dallas never making it far into the playoffs for the past 27 years. Newsflash! This is an entirely different team! Other teams are not held to this standard.....unbelievable.

total agreement....said all needed to be said
 

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In addition to the Niners being a better team in many aspects like coaching, defense, play design, and running game - they also have another advantage over us: they are not soft.

Just out of curiosity... if the Niners are indeed a "better team in many aspects." Why do they have a worse record despite a much softer schedule and no real competition in their division?

Asking for a friend..
 
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