If Jason Garrett goes, so should Dak Prescott

[gjkoeppen]

1. Then quote them. Who said this?

2. I really don't care about rushing TDs from a QB, I care about what they can do with their arm. Show me the amount of scrambling QBs that weren't great passers that won championships

3. A 10-6, 12-4, and 13-3 seasons in the past 10 years does not take away that we hover around 8-8 to 9-7 normally. At our peak, we can't get beyond the divisional round. We are mediocre

What you're pointing out are outliers. Next.

Little boy go play your sorry game with someone who cares what you think.
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[G2]

1. Then quote them. Who said this?

2. I really don't care about rushing TDs from a QB, I care about what they can do with their arm. Show me the amount of scrambling QBs that weren't great passers that won championships

3. A 10-6, 12-4, and 13-3 seasons in the past 10 years does not take away that we hover around 8-8 to 9-7 normally. At our peak, we can't get beyond the divisional round. We are mediocre

What you're pointing out are outliers. Next.

Just because YOU don't care, I'm pretty certain the team and staff appreciate a QB that can score in multiple ways. If all you care about are passing statistics to your liking, that's on you. But wins and losses as a team are what matter. And in the Prescott era, the team has been very good.

Next.

 

[G2]

Rushing TDs isn't the primary thing you are looking for in a QB, but ultimately the goal is to score TD's, therefore you can't ignore rushing TD's when determining whether a QB has been effective getting those TDs.

When it's the same as our 4th overall pick, elite RB I'd say it's relevant.

Besides, look what gaudy stats got us with the last QB.

 

[mattjames2010]

Little boy go play your sorry game with someone who cares what you think.
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You're in here responding, you "care" what I think.

Next.

 

[OmerV]

When it's the same as our 4th overall pick, elite RB I'd say it's relevant.

Besides, look what gaudy stats got us with the last QB.

In the end, every player has to use whatever talents they have to get the job done, and as long as we are getting the TD's it doesn't bother me a bit if some of them involved the QB carrying the ball across the goal line.

 

[G2]

In the end, every player has to use whatever talents they have to get the job done, and as long as we are getting the TD's it doesn't bother me a bit if some of them involved the QB carrying the ball across the goal line.

Same here.

 

[TexasHillbilly]

Garrett can see Dak on holidays if he wants to but Garrett will be too busy with his stripper gf probably.

Can't knock him for that.

 

[Diehardblues]

In the end, every player has to use whatever talents they have to get the job done, and as long as we are getting the TD's it doesn't bother me a bit if some of them involved the QB carrying the ball across the goal line.

True but our strengths of the team has changed. We were a top 10 offense that carried a mostly bottom tier defense. Now that’s been practically flipped. So, yea winning is winning, etc.

But if we’d had a better defense to go with that offense the results would have most likely been more favorable. And if we had a better offense to compliment this defense we’d most likely have more favorable results.

The problem I see is we are fixing to pay our lesser side of the ball more. That could be a problem? We built this team with investments for our strength to be on offense. There’s basically one major position that’s preventing it.

 

[Diehardblues]

Rushing TDs isn't the primary thing you are looking for in a QB, but ultimately the goal is to score TD's, therefore you can't ignore rushing TD's when determining whether a QB has been effective getting those TDs.

Rushing TD’s isn’t usually a stat your looking for with NFL QB’s. It actually could reflect another weakness. Which in this case last year was Redzone passing offense.

In the NFL if a QB’s legs or rushing are his best asset doesn’t bode well long term. Scrambling and mobility is an asset if it’s aiding the passing threat not rushing yards for the QB.

 

[OmerV]

Rushing TD’s isn’t usually a stat your looking for with NFL QB’s. It actually could reflect another weakness. Which in this case last year was Redzone passing offense.

In the NFL if a QB’s legs or rushing are his best asset doesn’t bode well long term. Scrambling and mobility is an asset if it’s aiding the passing threat not rushing yards for the QB.

As my post said, it isn't the primary thing you are looking for with an NFL QB ….

But ultimately a TD is a TD, and it is no less 6 points whether the QB passes for a TD, runs for a TD, or hands the ball off for a TD. If we get the TDs we need, who cares what form it comes in. If we don't, we need to look at something else.

 

[OmerV]

True but our strengths of the team has changed. We were a top 10 offense that carried a mostly bottom tier defense. Now that’s been practically flipped. So, yea winning is winning, etc.

But if we’d had a better defense to go with that offense the results would have most likely been more favorable. And if we had a better offense to compliment this defense we’d most likely have more favorable results.

The problem I see is we are fixing to pay our lesser side of the ball more. That could be a problem? We built this team with investments for our strength to be on offense. There’s basically one major position that’s preventing it.

As my post said "as long as we are getting the TD's …" Last year we weren't until after Cooper was acquired. Ultimately the team has to decide how to get TD's, and if it happens, then who cares what form they come in? If it doesn't, a change has to be looked at.

 

[Diehardblues]

As my post said "as long as we are getting the TD's …" Last year we weren't until after Cooper was acquired. Ultimately the team has to decide how to get TD's, and if it happens, then who cares what form they come in? If it doesn't, a change has to be looked at.

Of course but overall we weren’t . Scoring TD’s was an issue. Cooper helped the situation but didn’t totally resolve it.

 

[Diehardblues]

As my post said, it isn't the primary thing you are looking for with an NFL QB ….

But ultimately a TD is a TD, and it is no less 6 points whether the QB passes for a TD, runs for a TD, or hands the ball off for a TD. If we get the TDs we need, who cares what form it comes in. If we don't, we need to look at something else.

I appreciate you attempting to be diplomatic .

 

[CB61]

Here's one thought on that idea is Dak Prescott really better then he's been playing? Has it been the coaching staff holding him back? My opinion is if he had a decent coaching staff there and a decent offensive coordinator last couple years results may be different so I don't know if I show Garrett the door if I also show dak the door

 

[OmerV]

Of course but overall we weren’t . Scoring TD’s was an issue. Cooper helped the situation but didn’t totally resolve it.

We weren't until we got Cooper, although you are right that Cooper didn't completely solve the issue. In 2016 we were, and in 2017 it was something in between. Ultimately the team has to figure how what will work consistently, and if there are problems, what changes need to be made. The fact the QB runs for a few TDs here and there isn't automatically the problem though.

 

[ItzKelz]

Heck if Dak is making 30 mil a season he aint going no where and if he wants JG he aint going no where either.

 

[Diehardblues]

We weren't until we got Cooper, although you are right that Cooper didn't completely solve the issue. In 2016 we were, and in 2017 it was something in between. Ultimately the team has to figure how what will work consistently, and if there are problems, what changes need to be made. The fact the QB runs for a few TDs here and there isn't automatically the problem though.

No, but it could be a result of the problem. It’s possible that the changes that need to be made aren’t completely obtainable within our QB’s skill set.

 

[Diehardblues]

Here's one thought on that idea is Dak Prescott really better then he's been playing? Has it been the coaching staff holding him back? My opinion is if he had a decent coaching staff there and a decent offensive coordinator last couple years results may be different so I don't know if I show Garrett the door if I also show dak the door

Our coaching staff didn’t hold Romo back. And it didnt appear to be holding Elliot back or Cooper.

It’s entirely possible that Daks skill set is holding himself back.

 

[Diehardblues]

As my post said "as long as we are getting the TD's …" Last year we weren't until after Cooper was acquired. Ultimately the team has to decide how to get TD's, and if it happens, then who cares what form they come in? If it doesn't, a change has to be looked at.

If the core issue is the QB’s skill set we will be looking at it for years to come. And then it becomes more about how we overcome these flaws not actually resolve them.

 

[OmerV]

No, but it could be a result of the problem. It’s possible that the changes that need to be made aren’t completely obtainable within our QB’s skill set.

I'm not saying it couldn't be, just that it isn't necessarily. There isn't anything wrong with QBs running the ball in as long as it is just the result of taking advantage of a QB's abilities, but obviously if it is a symptom or result of a bigger problem that's another story.