If not now, when?

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the roster is overrated. No oline depth, no lb depth, don’t have a proven number 1 rb. Pollard is a 2 and dowdle should be on the ps.
 

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the roster is overrated. No oline depth, no lb depth, don’t have a proven number 1 rb. Pollard is a 2 and dowdle should be on the ps.
Totally agree with this, very overrated are we even sure that some of these players are better than what we will play against. All this assembling of a roster, but will it produce anything???
 

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Think about it...

If the Cowboys make the playoffs, make it at least to the division round but fail to reach the conference championship game, would it actually be smart to get rid of Dak and Mike McCarthy? Who are you going to replace them with? Certainly not anyone better at this time. Getting rid of Dak and McCarthy would only set the team back. We all know it.
Hey if nothing changes nothing changes
 

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I've seen a few people say this recently, including Jesse Holley on Hangin' With The Boys. The more I think about it, I agree.

The Cowboys have a talented roster, a veteran QB, a Super Bowl winning head coach, ARod is in the AFC now, and TB12 retired. On paper, this is probably their best chance to win the NFC since the 1990s. Obviously a lot can happen - injuries, etc. - but that is true of any team. They'll have to do something wiith Dak next year, either extend his contract or eat a massive cap hit, Micah and CeeDee are going to get paid, Martin and Tyron aren't getting any younger, so the clock is ticking. Jerry will be 81 this year - his clock is ticking, too.

So if they don't win the conference and get to Vegas this season, when will they? How much more needs to go their way to get over the hump? This is a big season for many in the organization. If Mike and Dak don't get this team any further than what we've seen recently, I think changes will be coming. What do you think?
Assuming we don’t make the NFCCG, what is your suggestion?

Rebuild?

Tank?
 

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Jerry has talked in the past about how embarrassing "the size of check" he would sign to guarantee him a Super Bowl. Well, prove it. This year looks to be a really great shot at the big game. Go out and find a couple pieces that could help get us over the top. We could use some Oline help. RB depth is still a question mark.

I hate giving up future picks as much as the next guy, but if it could solidify a run to the Super Bowl (a la Rams style), I'm all for it.
He writes the checks.

If there was no salary cap we would blow the league away just like the Yankees do.
 

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the roster is overrated. No oline depth, no lb depth, don’t have a proven number 1 rb. Pollard is a 2 and dowdle should be on the ps.
That's the crux of this thread. The big contracts are starting to hit and whilst we can find the money to pay the stars, there's nothing left to pad out the roster.

The starting line-up's arent going to kill us, it's the massive drop off to the replacement level....and it's going to get worse when the CeeDee, Dak, Micah contracts get paid.

The argument is that this is the year, and hopefully we're planning on using the remaining CAP to bolster any in season hole pluggers. Give Dak every chance this year, as 2022 showed he needs the weapons....and to be fair with his contract we may not be able to afford the armory next year.
 

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That is the weakest and saddest excuse to keep this misery train rolling .."if ___ and ____ cannot get us to a championship game, who do we have to replace them with?" ... LOL, that is the problem with keeping players that cannot get you over the hump, you continue not getting over the hump. Obviously, you can put someone else in there, anyone., who also cannot get you over the hump, which is the same thing you got and you not taking a step back. So worth a try. You ain't replacing Brady and Belichek in their prime. I figure their window is this next two seasons. After that, throw the bums out. Every year now is like dog years to Jerry.
Weakest is your response. So you've got nothing but someone worse? Got it.
 

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I've seen a few people say this recently, including Jesse Holley on Hangin' With The Boys. The more I think about it, I agree.

The Cowboys have a talented roster, a veteran QB, a Super Bowl winning head coach, ARod is in the AFC now, and TB12 retired. On paper, this is probably their best chance to win the NFC since the 1990s. Obviously a lot can happen - injuries, etc. - but that is true of any team. They'll have to do something wiith Dak next year, either extend his contract or eat a massive cap hit, Micah and CeeDee are going to get paid, Martin and Tyron aren't getting any younger, so the clock is ticking. Jerry will be 81 this year - his clock is ticking, too.

So if they don't win the conference and get to Vegas this season, when will they? How much more needs to go their way to get over the hump? This is a big season for many in the organization. If Mike and Dak don't get this team any further than what we've seen recently, I think changes will be coming. What do you think?
Honestly this team on paper has a very good roster and very good coaching, if this team doesn’t get to the SB this year (win or lose) then the year is a failure. I believe a change needs to be done at either the HC or QB. It appears that MM is setting up the table to play the scapegoat game he does every season, I think Jerry moves on from MM because I don’t see Dak going anywhere unless he completely implodes. The pieces are there the excuses are nonexistent this year, failure has to bring about dramatic changes and those can only happen at two places HC or QB.
 

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So lots of hurt feelings around here with no solutions. Super Bowl or bust. So you cut McCarthy and/or Dak. Who do you replace them with who would be better? No one. Just make the cuts to sooth your hurt feelings of Super Bowl or bust?

SMH :facepalm:
 

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Think about it...

If the Cowboys make the playoffs, make it at least to the division round but fail to reach the conference championship game, would it actually be smart to get rid of Dak and Mike McCarthy? Who are you going to replace them with? Certainly not anyone better at this time. Getting rid of Dak and McCarthy would only set the team back. We all know it.
Set the team back, no getting rid of one or both may be beneficial. If the results are the same with the track record of both you have no choice but to get rid of the two “key” most important individuals that would be MM and Dak, whether Jerry has the intestinal fortitude to do it at his age is doubtful, if it’s not a SB appearance then the axe should fall simple as that.
 

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Think about it...

If the Cowboys make the playoffs, make it at least to the division round but fail to reach the conference championship game, would it actually be smart to get rid of Dak and Mike McCarthy? Who are you going to replace them with? Certainly not anyone better at this time. Getting rid of Dak and McCarthy would only set the team back. We all know it.
I’m replacing McCarthy with the Oc from the lions. And Dak with Drake maye. Regardless of what it costs to get up to the top 5. Obviously it would be a lot but maye/Williams are Uber talented and a young OC like Johnson could mould them into something special. Look what he’s done with Goff lol
 

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Nothing will change next season regardless of this season's results because should some injuries happen, that will be an excuse....if there are some bad ref calls, that will be the excuse...if the weather is bad in some games, that will be the excuse.....the fact is the Dallas Cowboys are a team full of excuses with almost no accountability.
 

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So lots of hurt feelings around here with no solutions. Super Bowl or bust. So you cut McCarthy and/or Dak. Who do you replace them with who would be better? No one. Just make the cuts to sooth your hurt feelings of Super Bowl or bust?

SMH :facepalm:
Lots of solutions you’re just to blind to see them. The scapegoating needs to stop and there’s only one way to stop it the axe must fall. You want to keep doing the same thing over and over and over and expect different results, you do know the definition of insanity right, change is good when done with thought. Keep being happy with the same results most want improvement and better results.
 

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Lots of solutions you’re just to blind to see them. The scapegoating needs to stop and there’s only one way to stop it the axe must fall. You want to keep doing the same thing over and over and over and expect different results, you do know the definition of insanity right, change is good when done with thought. Keep being happy with the same results most want improvement and better results.
Bottom line: if Dak plays poorly and/or MM calls bad games one or both MUST go. After the loss to SF yet again in the playoffs some players were outspoken about their frustrations and my guess is that if another year of disappointment takes place then the voices will grow louder.
Parsons is one who clearly is about winning a Super Bowl right from the get-go and has established himself as the defensive leader. I doubt he wants to waste his career in Dallas if the status quo is maintained. He is eligible for a new deal after the 2023 season and some reports have him looking at a new deal in the neighborhood of $35M/AAV (beating Bosa's new deal of $34M/AAV). If he watches Dak play poorly again (hypothetically) and Dallas fails yet again to advance to at least the NFCCG, he could approach JJ and say he wants out of Dallas and try to force a trade elsewhere.
 
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Bottom line: if Dak plays poorly and/or MM calls bad games one or both MUST go. After the loss to SF yet again in the playoffs some players were outspoken about their frustrations and my guess is that if another year of disappointment takes place then the voices will grow louder.
Parsons is one who clearly is about winning a Super Bowl right from the get-go and has established himself as the defensive leader. I doubt he wants to waste his career in Dallas if the status quo is maintained. He is eligible for a new deal after the 2023 season and some reports have him looking at a new deal in the neighborhood of $35M/AAV (beating Bosa's new deal of $34M/AAV). If he watches Dak play poorly again (hypothetically) and Dallas fails yet again to advance to at least the NFCCG, he could approach JJ and say he wants out of Dallas and try to force a trade elsewhere.
but who would we get to not win anything with? if dak doesn't win crap, who are we going to get to win nothing? Aren't the 12-win seasons good enough, At least we are not 8-8 winning nothing. LMAO, more wins with nothing to show for it is all us fake as fans want. Be happy for dak and his meaningless stats. dang.emoji's to make it look more like a kid post. :muttley: :laugh: :facepalm::huh::dance:
 

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but who would we get to not win anything with? if dak doesn't win crap, who are we going to get to win nothing? Aren't the 12-win seasons good enough, At least we are not 8-8 winning nothing. LMAO, more wins with nothing to show for it is all us fake as fans want. Be happy for dak and his meaningless stats. dang.emoji's to make it look more like a kid post. :muttley: :laugh: :facepalm::huh::dance:
Many have gloated about the off-season moves to shore up the defense (Gilmore) and offense (Cooks) and even SJ has said this is the best roster Dallas has had in years....and many discount the trade for Trey Lance as nothing more than a #3 QB grab....but all this taking place the season prior to Dak's contract needs a possible extension to lower his 2024 cap hit of $59M.....some will call it nothing while there are those of us that see the writing on the wall for what it is.....a make or break season in Dallas (Cooks is 30 years old and his contract is voidable after the 2024 season...Gilmore is 33 years old and is only signed for 2023...DeMarcus Lawrence can be released after the 2024 season...Tyron Smith can be gone after the 2023 season....Michael Gallup could be released after the 2023 season...Tyler Biadasz is an UFA after the 2023 season...Lamb will see an almost $18M 5th year rookie option in 2024...Martin counts $28.5M against the cap in 2024...Pollard is an UFA in 2024...point is a lot of decisions hinge on this season as a lot of change can be coming to Dallas if they fail in 2023).
 
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