If not now, when?

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I think having an 81 year old delusional, looney, narcissistic salesman as our team's GM is what's truly keeping this team from getting over the hump and changing from MM, or Dak is not going to help anything until he's gone.
Jones has a net worth of $13 billion. That can afford him the best healthcare imaginable. Just saying.

It is like that old saying. "J.R. Ewing may have been a fictional character but even he could get a liver transplant in real life."
 

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Jerry has talked in the past about how embarrassing "the size of check" he would sign to guarantee him a Super Bowl. Well, prove it. This year looks to be a really great shot at the big game. Go out and find a couple pieces that could help get us over the top. We could use some Oline help. RB depth is still a question mark.

I hate giving up future picks as much as the next guy, but if it could solidify a run to the Super Bowl (a la Rams style), I'm all for it.
 

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I've seen a few people say this recently, including Jesse Holley on Hangin' With The Boys. The more I think about it, I agree.

The Cowboys have a talented roster, a veteran QB, a Super Bowl winning head coach, ARod is in the AFC now, and TB12 retired. On paper, this is probably their best chance to win the NFC since the 1990s. Obviously a lot can happen - injuries, etc. - but that is true of any team. They'll have to do something wiith Dak next year, either extend his contract or eat a massive cap hit, Micah and CeeDee are going to get paid, Martin and Tyron aren't getting any younger, so the clock is ticking. Jerry will be 81 this year - his clock is ticking, too.

So if they don't win the conference and get to Vegas this season, when will they? How much more needs to go their way to get over the hump? This is a big season for many in the organization. If Mike and Dak don't get this team any further than what we've seen recently, I think changes will be coming. What do you think?
Good OP. It hits strongly on concerns going into the season. That is my preference for a stance by Jerry.

I'm into watching the team play. Going into game one, this fan is holding all accountable. No coulda', woulda', shoulda' as excuses starting Sunday.

I won't even listen to a I missed the bus excuse.
 

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I've seen a few people say this recently, including Jesse Holley on Hangin' With The Boys. The more I think about it, I agree.

The Cowboys have a talented roster, a veteran QB, a Super Bowl winning head coach, ARod is in the AFC now, and TB12 retired. On paper, this is probably their best chance to win the NFC since the 1990s. Obviously a lot can happen - injuries, etc. - but that is true of any team. They'll have to do something wiith Dak next year, either extend his contract or eat a massive cap hit, Micah and CeeDee are going to get paid, Martin and Tyron aren't getting any younger, so the clock is ticking. Jerry will be 81 this year - his clock is ticking, too.

So if they don't win the conference and get to Vegas this season, when will they? How much more needs to go their way to get over the hump? This is a big season for many in the organization. If Mike and Dak don't get this team any further than what we've seen recently, I think changes will be coming. What do you think?
Excellent points! I think the playoff monkey on our back has become a gorilla and the pressure to mk a deep playoff run is substantial. Dak brought us the first road playoff win since Aikman did it thirty years ago so he’s capable of it.

I’m predicting 9-8 and a wild card win but nothing more. I can’t bet on Jerry after this 28 year drought.
 

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If anyone's life is ruined by the performance of a team they don't own then they should probably find a different hobby. I'm just watching the show.
You should visit this forum called Cowboyszone.com. You will find a bunch of morons whose lives are ruined every day by the man who owns the team...hell most aren't even Cowboy fans either.
 

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I think having an 81 year old delusional, looney, narcissistic salesman as our team's GM is what's truly keeping this team from getting over the hump and changing from MM, or Dak is not going to help anything until he's gone.
Sorry, that is just a bias...the man is still target on as to base values and solving them.
 

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Think about it...

If the Cowboys make the playoffs, make it at least to the division round but fail to reach the conference championship game, would it actually be smart to get rid of Dak and Mike McCarthy? Who are you going to replace them with? Certainly not anyone better at this time. Getting rid of Dak and McCarthy would only set the team back. We all know it.
Snail fail...that would be viewable later. Now, expect and hold them to holding up to expectations.
 

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I don't disagree, but that won't change as long as he's able.

But the pieces are in place. The NFC is more open than it has been in years. If not now, when?
.. and there is no guarantee that it will change when Stephen takes over.

Waiting is not really an option any more. We just have to play and hope we win with the cards we have.
 

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It has to start somewhere
It has to start sometime
What better place than here?
What better time than now?
 

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I've seen a few people say this recently, including Jesse Holley on Hangin' With The Boys. The more I think about it, I agree.

The Cowboys have a talented roster, a veteran QB, a Super Bowl winning head coach, ARod is in the AFC now, and TB12 retired. On paper, this is probably their best chance to win the NFC since the 1990s. Obviously a lot can happen - injuries, etc. - but that is true of any team. They'll have to do something wiith Dak next year, either extend his contract or eat a massive cap hit, Micah and CeeDee are going to get paid, Martin and Tyron aren't getting any younger, so the clock is ticking. Jerry will be 81 this year - his clock is ticking, too.

So if they don't win the conference and get to Vegas this season, when will they? How much more needs to go their way to get over the hump? This is a big season for many in the organization. If Mike and Dak don't get this team any further than what we've seen recently, I think changes will be coming. What do you think?
I agree! I think this team should be pumped and I think they have a shot at it all. Confidence level on a high right now.

But there is something nagging me that I have all this hope but I can see a complete failure too where they just have unforeseen issues, injuries, the line stinks, etc. Winning 3 straight seasons of 12 games or even double digit is tough. So I try and block that out.

Even though I'm 50/50 on Dak I don't see him going anywhere unless it is just a horrible season. I'd think Mike might get one more too. My only caveat to this is if they think the D was ready and the O wasn't, maybe they just make this a 49er team with a capable O but where the D is the star and that pushes MM out.
 

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.. and there is no guarantee that it will change when Stephen takes over.

Waiting is not really an option any more. We just have to play and hope we win with the cards we have.
In Jerry's defense, I think he is fully invested in trying to win with his franchise. One has to at least admit they are getting pretty darned efficient and support as well.
That in the now. I worked in Corrections and a path to normalcy occurs even there. Jerry isn't in the criminal side of the road now.
 

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I've seen a few people say this recently, including Jesse Holley on Hangin' With The Boys. The more I think about it, I agree.

The Cowboys have a talented roster, a veteran QB, a Super Bowl winning head coach, ARod is in the AFC now, and TB12 retired. On paper, this is probably their best chance to win the NFC since the 1990s. Obviously a lot can happen - injuries, etc. - but that is true of any team. They'll have to do something wiith Dak next year, either extend his contract or eat a massive cap hit, Micah and CeeDee are going to get paid, Martin and Tyron aren't getting any younger, so the clock is ticking. Jerry will be 81 this year - his clock is ticking, too.

So if they don't win the conference and get to Vegas this season, when will they? How much more needs to go their way to get over the hump? This is a big season for many in the organization. If Mike and Dak don't get this team any further than what we've seen recently, I think changes will be coming. What do you think?
It depends on how this season plays out. But if we basically have a repeat of last year I don’t think we see these type of changes .

If we are indeed the 3rd best team in NFC which most expert analysts , handicappers and even Cowboy fans believe then why should we expect to go further getting by Phi and SF, especially if we have to go on the road in playoffs ?

Doesn’t appear to add up as realistic exceptions. Sure we can hope we overcome teams we aren’t expected to beat but until we do not sure how we set those as mandates ?
 

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There’s only one thing that can overcome damn near any obstacle in the NFL and it’s a generational QB.

Until we are lucky to get one on the Mahomes level we won’t be able to be completely safe. Without top 2/3 guys teams have to just hope they go on a hot streak like Eli/Flacco.

Build a great team and hope you’re clicking at the right time.
 

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It depends on how this season plays out. But if we basically have a repeat of last year I don’t think we see these type of changes .

If we are indeed the 3rd best team in NFC which most expert analysts , handicappers and even Cowboy fans believe then why should we expect to go further getting by Phi and SF, especially if we have to go on the road in playoffs ?

Doesn’t appear to add up as realistic exceptions. Sure we can hope we overcome teams we aren’t expected to beat but until we do not sure how we set those as mandates ?
I'm not talking about my expectations - I've been in I'll believe it if I see it mode for years now - but more about the state of the conference and the Cowboys roster.

ARod was a thorn in our side for years. TB12 was TB 12. They're both gone. No one sees their teams as contenders now. There are still obstacles, just not as many. I'd be willing to bet I can guess Jerry's expectations, and Mike isn't his adopted son. He's been given more authority this season - the offense is in his hands. Another playoff disappointment - or worse - and Mike could find himself back in his basement in 2024.
 

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I think that fans and media underestimate the luck factor involved with getting really far. Either you have an absolutely dominant team/player capable of overcoming bad luck or you are just counting on the plays, calls and injuries falling your way if you are a good team.

Right now I think Dallas is one of a handful of "good teams" capable of going all of the way if things break their way.

There is a smidgeon of a chance that the defense could take another step and be good enough to carry the team through bad luck. I'm not going to guarantee it but I think its possible. Maybe Dallas should have gone all in on a DT instead of relying on a first round pick.

Regardless, someone would have to show me the path that Jerry should have taken that could have put him in that absolutely dominant category. Just trading picks or moving around salary to say you did something is foolish.
 

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I'm not talking about my expectations - I've been in I'll believe it if I see it mode for years now - but more about the state of the conference and the Cowboys roster.

ARod was a thorn in our side for years. TB12 was TB 12. They're both gone. No one sees their teams as contenders now. There are still obstacles, just not as many. I'd be willing to bet I can guess Jerry's expectations, and Mike isn't his adopted son. He's been given more authority this season - the offense is in his hands. Another playoff disappointment - or worse - and Mike could find himself back in his basement in 2024.
I agree the NFC is more for the taking . But we still have to overcome at least 2 teams that are ranked as better than we are.

I’m not disputing we have a good team and able to contend . I’m just saying based on what we have seen thus far there are still some better teams than us.

And that’s not just an opinion. That’s based on recent history, trends , analyst , handicappers and most Cowboy fans who realize there are several teams still better than us.

It’s why I’ll continue until new results or further evidence is provided to argue our expectations are too high while we have a good enough team to hype & hope for more.
 

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Former 1st round picks on current Dallas roster:

Tyron Smith
Stephon Gilmore
Zach Martin
Brandin Cooks
Dante Fowler
Malik Hooker
Leighton Vander Esch
Cee Dee Lamb
Noah Ibinoghene
Trey Lance
Micah Parsons
Tyler Smith
Mazi Smith
 

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Think about it...

If the Cowboys make the playoffs, make it at least to the division round but fail to reach the conference championship game, would it actually be smart to get rid of Dak and Mike McCarthy? Who are you going to replace them with? Certainly not anyone better at this time. Getting rid of Dak and McCarthy would only set the team back. We all know it.
We've recently seen franchises win SBs then dump their starting QB when the bill got too high and the Championships stopped. Then, they rebuilt and returned to contention, thus lapping the Cowboys, in short order.

Black pilled doom and gloom planning is no way to win Championships. Being too scared to make changes has never resulted in greatness.
 

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You have to have great coaching and great executing talent. But you also need to have luck. We lost games that were in OT and/or were very close. So, if a game or two falls our way we're talking about a completely different postseason.
Many don't know what goes into a single win.
 

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Logically, I get what you're saying. But when Jerry's disappointed he doesn't always make logical decisions. Ask Amari Cooper.
Logically, what he is saying holds no water. See Eagles, Rams.
 
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