If only people were as concerned about Americans suffering in Puerto Rico as they were

[Tabascocat]

PR is/was getting plenty of help, just had to deal with logistical problems. Resources are already spread thin. Even their government has said they have gotten what they asked for.

They were not prepared for this kind of disaster. Blame Trump or not, there was nothing else he could do at the time.

 

[dogunwo]

dang it, so all the rolling around in toxic waste and that's what I got too. can't all be winners...

edit: as far as super powers go, I think I'd go with flight. would save tons of gas money.

Teleportation. Even better.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Teleportation. Even better.

yea, teleportation is superior, but I imagine the thrill of actually flying would be more fun.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

It is funny, none of the left seemed to care when Houston and Florida were handled in epic fashion.

Only now that you have a Democratic mayor grandstanding and politicizing this tradgedy do you guys seem to care.

And fyi, this is an ISLAND. There is no easy way to get there and it is destroyed. That couldn't be the reason could it?

It also couldn't possibly be that FEMA is already stretched thin dealing with two other disasters on the mainland?

Nah, couldnt be. Let's just cry about it and make it seem like they are getting no help.....geez

How many days has it been since the Hurricane hit and you're going with Puerto Rico being an Island as a excuse. If billions of dollars can be spent on the military every day to help fund war cases. Then a way should be found to get help to Puerto Rico in a time of need. What's the use of approving a 700 billion dollar budget for the military just to struggle to get help to an island of people in 2017?

If there is so much problem getting Puerto Rico help in a time of crisis, then it's up to the mainland and the United States government to improve the response in the future.

Didn't Trump try to cut aid to Fema, at the time when all of these hurricane hitting different places in America proving how much we need Fema. Pointing out the responses to Houston and Florida doesn't exactly make Trump's response to Puerto Rico look better.

Like the right doesn't use people dying/people in crisis to push their agenda. For example how many who will boycott the NFL plan to turn around and give their free time/money to veterans in need. How many care as much about the homeless veterans on the streets, as they do about using them to guilt trip NFL players protesting. And how many put as much effort into helping homeless veterans as they do in putting effort into boycotting the NFL and expressing their anger against the players?

 

[JoeKing]

How many days has it been since the Hurricane hit and you're going with Puerto Rico being an Island as a excuse. If billions of dollars can be spent on the military every day to help fund war cases. Then a way should be found to get help to Puerto Rico in a time of need. What's the use of approving a 700 billion dollar budget for the military just to struggle to get help to an island of people in 2017?

If there is so much problem getting Puerto Rico help in a time of crisis, then it's up to the mainland and the United States government to improve the response in the future.

Didn't Trump try to cut aid to Fema, at the time when all of these hurricane hitting different places in America proving how much we need Fema. Pointing out the responses to Houston and Florida doesn't exactly make Trump's response to Puerto Rico look better.

Like the right doesn't use people dying/people in crisis to push their agenda. For example how many who will boycott the NFL plan to turn around and give their free time/money to veterans in need. How many care as much about the homeless veterans on the streets, as they do about using them to guilt trip NFL players protesting. And how many put as much effort into helping homeless veterans as they do in putting effort into boycotting the NFL and expressing their anger against the players?

Distribution of supplies to PR and our military budget are apple and orange subjects. Our military plans ahead of time to coordinate supplies to support it's missions of a specific size and a specific duration. We can't plan ahead for what happen to TX, FL, and then PR, an event that has never happened before in the history of mankind. We are doing the best we can.

People are free to do with their own hard earned money what they want to and you have zero say-so otherwise. If they want to support the homeless rather than the plight of rich athletes then they can and there is nothing wrong with that. You seem to have a problem with other people not given the same merit to different causes that you do. You want your wishes meet despite what others want. That's the way of a child, a child that doesn't get what he wants and cries about it.

 

[Ken]

How many days has it been since the Hurricane hit and you're going with Puerto Rico being an Island as a excuse. If billions of dollars can be spent on the military every day to help fund war cases. Then a way should be found to get help to Puerto Rico in a time of need. What's the use of approving a 700 billion dollar budget for the military just to struggle to get help to an island of people in 2017?

If there is so much problem getting Puerto Rico help in a time of crisis, then it's up to the mainland and the United States government to improve the response in the future.

Didn't Trump try to cut aid to Fema, at the time when all of these hurricane hitting different places in America proving how much we need Fema. Pointing out the responses to Houston and Florida doesn't exactly make Trump's response to Puerto Rico look better.

Like the right doesn't use people dying/people in crisis to push their agenda. For example how many who will boycott the NFL plan to turn around and give their free time/money to veterans in need. How many care as much about the homeless veterans on the streets, as they do about using them to guilt trip NFL players protesting. And how many put as much effort into helping homeless veterans as they do in putting effort into boycotting the NFL and expressing their anger against the players?

Wow. Total delusion.

Again, they have had people there and supplies have gotten there within days. not to mention the ridiculous Jones Act that Trump had to waive to do any of this. Only in a liberal's narrow world would they discount the handling of Texas and florida and Trumps own million dollar donation...so they could point to a perceived lack of response in Puerto Rico because it is being politicized because it is hard to disprove. Keep listening to MSNBC....they have led you so well to this point.

And the typical left response to any point they can't overcome.. move the goalpost. By definition...the right is all for the military and our veterans. Whether they donate time or not is irrelevant...they have given up something they loved and did it in this nations honor. You will never understand that apparently.

 

[Ghost12]

Within only a couple weeks time, the United States saw 3 major catastrophic weather events. Puerto Rico drew the short straw not only by being an island, but also by being 3rd in line when so many resources were already deployed elsewhere.

Regardless, the federal government's response to these tragedies has been terrific. This is not the Katrina-level clustermess we saw 10+ years ago.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Wow. Total delusion.

Again, they have had people there and supplies have gotten there within days. not to mention the ridiculous Jones Act that Trump had to waive to do any of this. Only in a liberal's narrow world would they discount the handling of Texas and florida and Trumps own million dollar donation...so they could point to a perceived lack of response in Puerto Rico because it is being politicized because it is hard to disprove. Keep listening to MSNBC....they have led you so well to this point.

And the typical left response to any point they can't overcome.. move the goalpost. By definition...the right is all for the military and our veterans. Whether they donate time or not is irrelevant...they have given up something they loved and did it in this nations honor. You will never understand that apparently.

Trump's one million dollar donation is questionable. Pledge but didn't actually give it.
https://thinkprogress.org/white-hou...ersonal-money-to-harvey-victims-4691cf5e6dd6/

Fox news is just as bias for Trump as the right claim that the rest of the Media is for the left. Trump tweets and complains about how PR wants everything done for them, complaining about his bruised ego because he is thin skinned and can't handle being called out on his poor response to Puerto Rico. Him sitting and demonizing Puerto Rico in order to try and whitewash himself isn't helping the people no matter how you spin it. And makes him look selfish. Sitting and tweeting talking about himself in 3rd person because he goes on twitter rants within something is said about him.

The right lowers the goal post for Trump and will deflect blame, no matter what he says or does. Countless Veterans have spoken out and said for the right to stop using them for their agenda. SO the right saying that they are upset with the NFL players, can't speak for all of the veterans, who many have said they fought for people's rights to protest over the Anthem. Many including Pat Tillman's family who the right tried to use against Kaepernick.

 

[Tabascocat]

Trump's one million dollar donation is questionable. Pledge but didn't actually give it.
https://thinkprogress.org/white-hou...ersonal-money-to-harvey-victims-4691cf5e6dd6/

Fox news is just as bias for Trump as the right claim that the rest of the Media is for the left. Trump tweets and complains about how PR wants everything done for them, complaining about his bruised ego because he is thin skinned and can't handle being called out on his poor response to Puerto Rico. Him sitting and demonizing Puerto Rico in order to try and whitewash himself isn't helping the people no matter how you spin it. And makes him look selfish. Sitting and tweeting talking about himself in 3rd person because he goes on twitter rants within something is said about him.

The right lowers the goal post for Trump and will deflect blame, no matter what he says or does. Countless Veterans have spoken out and said for the right to stop using them for their agenda. SO the right saying that they are upset with the NFL players, can't speak for all of the veterans, who many have said they fought for people's rights to protest over the Anthem. Many including Pat Tillman's family who the right tried to use against Kaepernick.

I take it that you don't watch FNC much. There are plenty on there who do not like Trump or his policies much. They bring in quite a few Democrats and co-contributors for interviews. They do lean right but it is mostly due from Hannity and Tucker, there are a few others but nothing like them.

FOX criticizes Trump often and is not afraid to point it out. Their reporting is far more fair and balanced than CNN and the like.

 

[Ken]

Trump's one million dollar donation is questionable. Pledge but didn't actually give it.
https://thinkprogress.org/white-hou...ersonal-money-to-harvey-victims-4691cf5e6dd6/

Fox news is just as bias for Trump as the right claim that the rest of the Media is for the left. Trump tweets and complains about how PR wants everything done for them, complaining about his bruised ego because he is thin skinned and can't handle being called out on his poor response to Puerto Rico. Him sitting and demonizing Puerto Rico in order to try and whitewash himself isn't helping the people no matter how you spin it. And makes him look selfish. Sitting and tweeting talking about himself in 3rd person because he goes on twitter rants within something is said about him.

The right lowers the goal post for Trump and will deflect blame, no matter what he says or does. Countless Veterans have spoken out and said for the right to stop using them for their agenda. SO the right saying that they are upset with the NFL players, can't speak for all of the veterans, who many have said they fought for people's rights to protest over the Anthem. Many including Pat Tillman's family who the right tried to use against Kaepernick.

Well...with an unbiased fountain of truth like thinkprogress...i can see why you would think that.

Here is what actually happened:.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...million-donation-for-hurricane-harvey-relief/

So now we are rewriting reality and trying to claim Trump doesn't have the support of the military? Really?

You do know that he had the most contributions during his campaign than all other canidates combined right?

Please unhook from thinkprogress, democracy now, msnbc,cnn etc...it is contaminating your head and making you look foolish.

 

[shabazz]

If only the President were as concerned about P.R. as he was with the NFL

If only the players were as concerned about the 700 people that will be killed by black on black violence in Chicago rather than disrespecting the Police and our National Anthem. Complete hypocrites.

 

[xwalker]

If only the players were as concerned about the 700 people that will be killed by black on black violence in Chicago rather than disrespecting the Police and our National Anthem. Complete hypocrites.

I don't understand why people are not screaming about the problem of black on black murders. The numbers are extreme.

 

[Ken]

Well...with an unbiased fountain of truth like thinkprogress...i can see why you would think that.

Here is what actually happened:.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...million-donation-for-hurricane-harvey-relief/

So now we are rewriting reality and trying to claim Trump doesn't have the support of the military? Really?

You do know that he had the most contributions during his campaign than all other canidates combined right?

Please unhook from thinkprogress, democracy now, msnbc,cnn etc...it is contaminating your head and making you look foolish.

Should have said "most contributions from military members".

 

[xwalker]

Again how does him doing this help the situation, where he is comfortable from his golf course and can say all he wants to that the response has been good and can praise himself for the response. But, until all of the people of PR have had help getting the water/food/supplies that they need then the response isn't good enough. The Mayor is there to personally see up close the destruction and devastation to what is going on, more so than Trump who is just taking the words that make him look good while being thousands of miles away and can't see what is really going on.

People are still begging for help/dying no matter how good Trump claims the response is. I stand by my question in how he thinks that sitting in the comfort of his Golf course is helping matters, while millions of the people who are actually there are suffering in unlivable conditions and struggling to get food/water. Their word and experience and what they are going through will matter more than what Trump claims and Trump's accusations at the Mayor.

Trump supporters will pretty much attack anyone who doesn't go along with or agree with Trump.

When the President flys into a location, it disrupts air traffic because of the restrictions to keep private and commercial planes away from that airspace. They discovered when he went to Houston that it slowed the relief supply planes.

Be happy if he is staying away from PR.

 

[shabazz]

I don't understand why people are not screaming about the problem of black on black murders. The numbers are extreme.

Because the "Black lives Matter" movement is only based on a false narrative. Victims only matter if an ideology can be advance for money or political gain. Most of us know that most of the claims of police brutality and racism are complete nonsense and have been debunked. Tawanna Bradley, Duke Lacrosse team and many many others

The sad part is that this detracts from the few legit cases that this protest is supposed to be about. The way is usually goes is perpetual victim class makes a charge of racism; Major Media furthers the narrative with no evidence or investigation of alleged facts; videos or eyewitness accounts disprove the allegation; Major media no longer covers the story

 

[xwalker]

Because the "Black lives Matter" movement is only based on a false narrative. Victims only matter if an ideology can be advance for money or political gain. Most of us know that most of the claims of police brutality and racism are complete nonsense and have been debunked. Tawanna Bradley, Duke Lacrosse team and many many others

The sad part is that this detracts from the few legit cases that this protest is supposed to be about. The way is usually goes is perpetual victim class makes a charge of racism; Major Media furthers the narrative with no evidence or investigation of alleged facts; videos or eyewitness accounts disprove the allegation; Major media no longer covers the story

It reminds me of football fans.

People claimed La'el was terrible after he shutdown the best pass rusher in the NFL for 3 quarters of the game (no sacks or tackles) until they had to pass every snap.

People claimed CB Lewis was terrible then 1 week later people are saying he's their best CB.

In other words, the headlines are usually wrong.

 

[pete026]

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If only people were as concerned about Americans suffering in Puerto Rico as they were spreading their political agenda,

Finished the thread title for you!

 

[Rockport]

I take it that you don't watch FNC much. There are plenty on there who do not like Trump or his policies much. They bring in quite a few Democrats and co-contributors for interviews. They do lean right but it is mostly due from Hannity and Tucker, there are a few others but nothing like them.

FOX criticizes Trump often and is not afraid to point it out. Their reporting is far more fair and balanced than CNN and the like.

Now that’s funny. “They do lean right”.

 

[rags747]

Agree with you but pointless to expect anything different from this POS that 35% still call Prez. He just lacks the character, dignity and especially intelligence that our country has been used to from its President for decades. Reagan, Bush, Bush, Carter, Clinton And Obama all have a baseline humanity and dignity the office requires.

He and his dwindling supporters are exactly who Russia was stoking in the lead up to the polls. You know, the Russia that is the greatest get out the vote Repub operation since Rove. You'll notice Russia brings no uproar from the patriots on this board. Regarding Puerto Rico, Trump doesn't care and won't until the face of PR resembles the face of Charlottesville protesters or Russians for that matter. Or Arpaio. Puerto Rico will be in much better company in a little over three years but till then, the Trump and then Pence (when Trump quits) experiment will be flushed.

Oboma was/is a racist and Carter while a very nice man and sub captain, he sucked as the leader in chief. Two worst presidents in my time are Oboma and Carter with Oboma Taking 1st place trophy as the the worst. Just look at what Oboma did in the ME, Iran, NK, Syria etc etc. The guy was a pos lakey who hated America and who took sides at every opportunity. FFFF Him...

 

[JoeKing]

Oboma was/is a racist and Carter while a very nice man and sub captain, he sucked as the leader in chief. Two worst presidents in my time are Oboma and Carter with Oboma Taking 1st place trophy as the the worst. Just look at what Oboma did in the ME, Iran, NK, Syria etc etc. The guy was a pos lakey who hated America and who took sides at every opportunity. FFFF Him...

Stop beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel.