If Roy Williams Didn't Play For Texas

[Shady12]

He catches 20 mmore a season at over 200 more yards. the only thing RW has going for him is him being from UT. Its really not that close and its not like RW is a burner.

RW IS a burner. Sub 4.4 guy coming out of college.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Mine is exactly opposite of that.

1...30 years old as of January, has fewest prime years left.
2...28 in October.
3...27 in December

85 has 3 or 4 years of prime and if its a 4 or 5 year contract that is perfect. its been 4 years and the only thing that RW has proven is that he lacks focus and gets dinged.

Boldin is a lot more productive despite being dinged too. Sorry but nothing RW has done justifies him being ahead of Boldin. Even when completely healthy he hasnt done better than Boldin and that has happened once in the last 7 years.

 

[calico]

Roy is a freak onthe football field...has nothing to do with him being my favorite horn before VY took the horns to the promise land.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

RW IS a burner. Sub 4.4 guy coming out of college.

he ran in the 4.4s at the combine. thats the one i care about not the stopwatch nonsense.

that is good but thats not a burner where most corners run faster than that. He margianlly faster than James Hardy.

 

[TheCount]

He catches 20 mmore a season at over 200 more yards. the only thing RW has going for him is him being from UT. Its really not that close and its not like RW is a burner.

I'll go ahead and disagree with everything you just said except no, Roy is not a burner, although it hasn't stopped him from averaging a meaningless 2 yards more per catch than Anquan over his career.

But as I've said a million times, numbers don't tell the whole story. So I'm not going to get into another silly argument over numbers.

They can both ball, and they are similar in talent level. Arguing definitively one way or the other just shows your biases.

 

[sago1]

Born in Delaware and now retired/living in Florida. Only been to Texas when I changed planes a few times; did visit my brother while he in the military in Texas. So I don't care anything about who went to what school. All I care about is RWilliams might be easier to get cause he wants to return home to Texas and play for the Cowboys.

Never heard Bouldin say anything about leaving the Cards or playing for the Cowboys.

Chad Jackson wants to leave Cincy and play for anybody who will get him out of that loser franchise and I don't blame him. His stats are fantastic and from that perspective he'd be my first choice. Just concerned about his showboating, mouting off & how well he would get along with TO before they'd be fighting about so and so getting more balls. Also I've heard that Chad really barks/yells at Carson Palmer; doubt that would go over well with Romo nor any of our offensive players.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'll go ahead and disagree with everything you just said except no, Roy is not a burner, although it hasn't stopped him from averaging a meaningless 2 yards more per catch than Anquan over his career.

But as I've said a million times, numbers don't tell the whole story. So I'm not going to get into another silly argument over numbers.

They can both ball, and they are similar in talent level. Arguing definitively one way or the other just shows your biases.

Numbers are one way to objectively view something and come to a conclusion. What is worthless are anecdotes like 'both can ball.'

Statistically RW cannot hold Boldin's jock but you cling to those anecdotes.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Would you still like him to be on the Cowboys roster?

Just curious.

Both players are good, but Boldin is better (imo).:starspin

Yes, I would still like him. His numbers are very good, IMO, for the point in his career he is currently at. Boldin may be better, but I also think that Boldin is going to be more expensive. If the pay scales were comperable, I would probably go for Boldin but that is not to say that I would not still like to have Roy.

Besides, you can't discount the fact that there is desire to play for Dallas. That desire is based on where he is from and where his family resides, which leads you back to Texas.

 

[TheCount]

Numbers are one way to objectively view something and come to a conclusion. What is worthless are anecdotes like 'both can ball.'

Statistically RW cannot hold Boldin's jock but you cling to those anecdotes.

*yawn*

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[big dog cowboy]

If Roy Williams Didn't Play For Texas

Would you still like him to be on the Cowboys roster?

I'm still trying to figure out what Roy going to Texas has to do with anything.

 

[Shady12]

he ran in the 4.4s at the combine. thats the one i care about not the stopwatch nonsense.

that is good but thats not a burner where most corners run faster than that. He margianlly faster than James Hardy.

I didn't think he ran the 40 at the combine, could be wrong. Couldn't find anything in a google search. He does seem more than marginally faster than Hardy on a football field, regardless.

 

[Rampage]

I'm still trying to figure out what Roy going to Texas has to do with anything.

cause he is overhyped on this board. he is overhyped by fellow texans who root for the texas longhorns. the op feels people are biased towards roy because he went to a texas college.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

*yawn*

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~William W. Watt[/FONT]
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I am more than accepting of that. i never said statistics were the only way to interpret objectively. But if you are going to use Watt's quote then you need to bring those other questions to the table.

Here are some for you.

Why are RW stats lesser? Becasue hes always hurt and lacks focus.

Is it significant that RW catches less balls and gains less yards? Yes.

Was there a significant difference in relative talent on there teams especially at QB? Well its Harrington/Kitna vs Blake/McCown/Warner/Leinart and both teams have been mediocre to bad. ill give it upas a wash but 4 QBs in 5 years is pretty bad.

I am more than willing to be analytic beyond statistics Count but at the same time i have yet to see one good reason why RW is better other than anecdotes and hyperbole. He certainly hasnt lived up to his draft status and i just see him being tremendously overrated based on potential whcih should be worthless seeing hes been in the league for 4 years already.

I doubt he is suddenly going to stop getting hurt all the time and i also doubt that giveing him more money will help his focus.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I didn't think he ran the 40 at the combine, could be wrong. Couldn't find anything in a google search. He does seem more than marginally faster than Hardy on a football field, regardless.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2004/draft/players/47075.html

 

[Vintage]

Roy Williams
2007(12 Games)- 64 catches 838 Yards 5 TD (Team completed 368 passes) 17.39% of team's receptions
2006(16 Games)- 82 Catches 1310 Yards 7 TD (Team completed 372 passes) 22.04% of team's receptions
2005(13 Games)- 45 Catches 687 Yards 8 TD (Team completed 297 passes) 15.15% of team's receptions
2004(14 Games)- 54 Catches 817 Yards 8 TD (Team completed 285 passes) 18.95% of team's receptions

Anquan Boldin
2007 (12 Games)- 71 Catches 853 Yards 9 TD (Team completed 356 passes) 19.94% of team's receptions
2006 (16 Games)- 83 Catches 1203 Yards 4 TD (Team completed 322 passes) 25.78% of team's receptions
2005 (14 Games)- 102 Catches 1402 Yards 7 TD (Team completed 419 passes) 34.34% of team's receptions
2004 (10 Games)- 56 Catches 623 Yards 1 TD (Team completed 299 passes) 18.73% of team's receptions
2003 (16 Games)- 101 Catches 1377 Yards 8 TD (Team completed 303 passes) 33.33% of team's receptions

 

[iceberg]

Roy Williams playing for Texas has absolutely nothing to do with my interest in him for our team.

I live in Colorado and have only been in Texas to change planes in Dallas.

Debating which I would prefer is almost absurd because I would love to get either one.

I would like for Roy or Boldin to play on our team no matter where they played at in college.

Sometimes I wondered if Roy Williams attending OU was a reason he was so polarizing (back when he was actually still good). But I don't think anyone cares about Roy Williams (WR) alma mater either way. He fits a need we currently have, and he might be available.

I think people would be more than happy with Williams or Boldin.

I'd be quite happy with Anquan, but I prefer Roy because he's faster, and the Boys need some more speed at WR...

And yes, I'm a Horns fan, but I'd like Roy even if he was an Aggie... LOL...

Yes, his alma mater doesn't mean a thing to me.

Doesn't matter to me where he played in college. Any of these guys are better than what we have right now as our #2, and that should be the deciding factor.

Roy is a freak onthe football field...has nothing to do with him being my favorite horn before VY took the horns to the promise land.

I'm still trying to figure out what Roy going to Texas has to do with anything.

cause he is overhyped on this board. he is overhyped by fellow texans who root for the texas longhorns. the op feels people are biased towards roy because he went to a texas college.

did you read the thread before you said this?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

did you read the thread before you said this?

Did you really expect people to say they only liked him more because they are Texas homers?

 

[Rampage]

did you read the thread before you said this?

did you see what i was responding too? i know fom listening to dcfantic's mock draft show your attention span is limited and you tend to be a little late on things.

 

[The Rawhide Kid]

Did you really expect people to say they only liked him more because they are Texas homers?

I think I've seen enough homerism to last a lifetime, i.e. the Best... Games.

 

[iceberg]

Did you really expect people to say they only liked him more because they are Texas homers?

not gonna sit around and call people liars cause i'm bored.

i love the longhorns. about the only college team i like. however, that doesn't stop roy williams from being a legit #1 at this stage of his career.

i'd prefer bolden for less-injury reasons but not sure he's better than roy.

i'd take either in a heartbeat over sweed, and he's from texas too. i hope my bias isn't still showing. : )