If Schottenheimer Is The Choice Would It Change Your Fandom?

[DallasMike]

Just more of the same while bidding my time waiting for Jerry to leave.

He has a son and a grandson. There is no light at the end of that tunnel.

 

[KJJ]

Na this is different. Way different.

How so? I don’t see any difference. We were coming off losing seasons when Campo and Garrett were promoted. Nothing inspiring about those hires. We knew at the time it wouldn’t work out with either one. Nothing will change with the Joneses running the team, regardless the HC.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

Garrett was the early 2000s Ben Johnson. The young OC that was destined to be a head coach. It didn't work out, but at least it made sense.

McCarthy was a Super Bowl champion that, at the time he was hired, was only behind Belichick in playoff wins for an active coach.

Schottenheimer is literally a position coach, at best, if he hit the open market right now.

People forget that Garrett and McCarthy were actually widely considered good hires at the time.

Garrett was just kept around about 4 seasons too long and McCarthy’s tenure here was fine.

Hiring Shottenheimer after not even bothering to so much as interview most of the top candidates on the market is very different from those two. It’s the ultimate we don’t care move. Just a diabolically lazy move from the front office.

 

[Mannix]

How many of y'all feel stupid as hell right now for thinking that Washington's win Saturday was gonna suddenly jolt Booger into getting the best HC available? You would think that I'd have leaned my lesson by now...guess not.

 

[StarLord]

DIEHARD is the term here. we are hard to kill off. Jerry's mental incapability to realize he cant GM (or be an owner depending how you look at it), properly will not kill us real fans off.

Leave the weak stuff to the bandwagoners. We built tough with two shades of blue (navy blue and royal blue) silver and white running through our veins!

This is called an abusive relationship.

 

[Mannix]

People forget that Garrett and McCarthy were actually widely considered good hires at the time.

Garrett was just kept around about 4 seasons too long and McCarthy’s tenure here was fine.

Hiring Shottenheimer after not even bothering to so much as interview most of the top candidates on the market is very different from those two. It’s the ultimate we don’t care move. Just a diabolically lazy move from the front office.

https://atozsports.com/nfl/dallas-c...mpletely-unserious-amid-head-coaching-search/

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

People forget that Garrett and McCarthy were actually widely considered good hires at the time.

Garrett was just kept around about 4 seasons too long and McCarthy’s tenure here was fine.

Hiring Shottenheimer after not even bothering to so much as interview most of the top candidates on the market is very different from those two. It’s the ultimate we don’t care move. Just a diabolically lazy move from the front office.

The "Garrett was a bad hire" is a coping mechanism for what is happening now with Schottenheormer.

When Garrett was hired for HC of the Cowboys he could've gone many other places and at the very least been hired as their OC.

Schottenhiemer would get ZERO attention outside of Dallas for an OC job, let alone the HC position.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

DIEHARD is the term here. we are hard to kill off. Jerry's mental incapability to realize he cant GM (or be an owner depending how you look at it), properly will not kill us real fans off.

Leave the weak stuff to the bandwagoners. We built tough with two shades of blue (navy blue and royal blue) silver and white running through our veins!

Your mindset is the reason Schottenheimer is going to be the next HC.

 

[MS17]

No. My expectations of the organization couldn't be lower right now and there's no real vision in the front office.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

Your mindset is the reason Schottenheimer is going to be the next HC.

how so?

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

This is called an abusive relationship.

than what do you suggest a true fan be?

 

[NFCBeasts]

Schottenherimer seems to somehow not only be in the mix, but the betting favorite to be the next head coach.

The guy they didn't have enough faith in to be anything more than an assistant OC to McCarthy.

The guy that if he left Dallas right now would not get any attention at all for an OC job and would probably get demoted to a position coach somewhere IF somebody wanted him.

I can't think of a more "we don't care at all" hire than Schottenheimer. This is basically just a tiny step above Jerry naming Stephen the HC.

Well you see Jerry had him over for a sleep over and he made the bed before the left … unlike Mikey…. this why the switch.

 

[MikeT22]

He has a son and a grandson. There is no light at the end of that tunnel.

I know. Only hope is they arent as egotistical and hellbent on not hiring a quality HC or GM.

 

[MikeT22]

How many of y'all feel stupid as hell right now for thinking that Washington's win Saturday was gonna suddenly jolt Booger into getting the best HC available? You would think that I'd have leaned my lesson by now...guess not.

But maybe if Philly or Wash. wins the SB THEN Jerry will change and come to his senses. Hahalolololhahaha

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

how so?

Because you allow Jerry to operate without repercussions.

If you don't like what Jerry does your "bandwagon" according to you, while you willfully accept the trash that Jerry continues to feed you because you "bleed navy and royal blue".

Unfortunately, the majority of the fanbase thinks like you. So, the fanbase will continue to get what they get. Jerry appreciates your "diehard" status though.

 

[DCwarrior]

Eh who cares. It won’t move the needle, we will still suck no matter who is HC. Horrible FO, overpaid choker at QB, talent deprived at key positions. HC can’t fix that.

 

[MS17]

DIEHARD is the term here. we are hard to kill off. Jerry's mental incapability to realize he cant GM (or be an owner depending how you look at it), properly will not kill us real fans off.

Leave the weak stuff to the bandwagoners. We built tough with two shades of blue (navy blue and royal blue) silver and white running through our veins!

Your fanhood and passion are really commendable, man. But this sounds more like a Ford truck commercial than a fan tribute.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Schottenherimer seems to somehow not only be in the mix, but the betting favorite to be the next head coach.

The guy they didn't have enough faith in to be anything more than an assistant OC to McCarthy.

The guy that if he left Dallas right now would not get any attention at all for an OC job and would probably get demoted to a position coach somewhere IF somebody wanted him.

I can't think of a more "we don't care at all" hire than Schottenheimer. This is basically just a tiny step above Jerry naming Stephen the HC.

Yes!! Why root for a team that is controlled by idiots.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Yeah, probably even five years ago, I couldn't have imagined myself being where I am today as a fan. My day used to be built around the Cowboys games. I anticipated it and nothing was going to deter me from watching it, other than going to church services. I would get in my recliner, get excited when we scored, fuss at the refs and be up or down practically all week based on the results. I wore my Cowboys clothes out in public to show yeah, I'm a fan of America's Team.

Now, I don't want a game to drag me down anymore, and I know that it will because of all of the ultimate letdowns in the playoffs we've experienced over the years. I know that this team will not be good enough because it hasn't been good enough for almost 30 years. I still hope, but don't want my day ruined when those hopes are dashed. So even when I'm home, I don't watch the games live. I record them, check the score and then decide if it's worth watching. (I did watch the last few games this season live because I knew that it really didn't matter if we won or lost and losing would actually improve our draft position. It actually was even fun because I just didn't care if we won, and I wish I could be like that all the time.)

I wear my Cowboys coat some, because it is one of my winter coats, but rarely do I wear any of the shirts and I often choose a different coat to wear because I'm ashamed of my team. I don't want to be, but I am. So no, the choice of coach isn't going to change my fandom ... because it has already changed thanks to the mismanagement that has worn me down.

 

[Beast_from_East]

People forget that Garrett and McCarthy were actually widely considered good hires at the time.

Garrett was just kept around about 4 seasons too long and McCarthy’s tenure here was fine.

Hiring Shottenheimer after not even bothering to so much as interview most of the top candidates on the market is very different from those two. It’s the ultimate we don’t care move. Just a diabolically lazy move from the front office.

Exactly, this is very different.

Clappy was OC under Wade and the Cowboy's offense was one of the best in the league, Clappy even got a HC interview with Atlanta.

Fat Mike was HC for the Packers for a long time and even won a SB.

Both of these guys were at least "qualified" and thought of around the league as legit HC material. Nobody and I mean nobody is considering Schotty a legit HC candidate and not one other team has even asked to interview him for a position. This is literally the same as just pointing to some random person in the stands and interviewing them to be HC.