If the Cowboys don't go heavy in FA, why not re-sign Dak?

[xwalker]

That's just not true though. The Cowboys have one of the lowest cap numbers in the league over the next 3 seasons, including the 8th lowest cap number in football for 2025. The Cowboys have complete cap flexibility to make whatever moves they want, they simply are choosing not to use it this year. That's not completely a bad thing as they don't continue to kick the can down the road as they've done time and time again, but don't for one second think that they don't have the ability to. The 2024 cap situation is a total choice by the Jones clan.

Looking at the cap for future years is very deceptive.

They have 65M in cap space for 2025; however, new contracts for Dak and CeeDee will add up to about 90M per season.

Currently Dak and CeeDee show as zero dollars for 2025 because they're not undercontract.

Overthecap shows a huge amount of cap space for 2027 because they only have 9 players under contract.
- Diggs, Steele and this year's draft picks...

Even if they wanted to push money down the road, most of the big cap hits in 2024 are for players on the final year of their contract.
Dak 55M
Zack Martin 15.5M
DLaw 10M
Cooks 10M
Gallup Dead Money 13.5M

They only have 3.8M available for 2024 and that does not include:
- The extra 2 players added for in-season cap rules (only 51 count during the offseason).
- The 16 man practice squad.
- Player contracts added to replace any players that end up on IR.

- Between 3.5M and 6M for the practice squad.
- A minimum of 1.5M for the 52nd and 53rd players.

 

[quickccc]

The Jones are so paranoid about the salary cap and future big contracts of the big 3 of Dak, Parsons and Lamb, that they are willing to
sacrifice the '24 season. You see teams like Ravens, and Detroit making the big splash in off season manuvers trades, FA coaching staff, because of their front office.

Ravens added a serious piece for a one year rental in elite RB Derrick Henry who will add a dimension to greatly help Lamar in better contending for the SB title, ..while we sit it out and hope we get lucky and try the Money Ball sneak approach.

 

[Chasing6]

Looking at the cap for future years is very deceptive.

They have 65M in cap space for 2025; however, new contracts for Dak and CeeDee will add up to about 90M per season.

Currently Dak and CeeDee show as zero dollars for 2025 because they're not undercontract.

Overthecap shows a huge amount of cap space for 2027 because they only have 9 players under contract.
- Diggs, Steele and this year's draft picks...

Even if they wanted to push money down the road, most of the big cap hits in 2024 are for players on the final year of their contract.
Dak 55M
Zack Martin 15.5M
DLaw 10M
Cooks 10M
Gallup Dead Money 13.5M

They only have 3.8M available for 2024 and that does not include:
- The extra 2 players added for in-season cap rules (only 51 count during the offseason).
- The 16 man practice squad.
- Player contracts added to replace any players that end up on IR.

- Between 3.5M and 6M for the practice squad.
- A minimum of 1.5M for the 52nd and 53rd players.

Dak's $40M Cap hit is included. With a new contract that could be pushed back and free up more money.

 

[xwalker]

Dak's $40M Cap hit is included. With a new contract that could be pushed back and free up more money.

No, that 40M is for money already paid to Dak. It is not for the new contract cap hit.

 

[Chasing6]

No, that 40M is for money already paid to Dak. It is not for the new contract cap hit.

With a new contract it can be moved. Without a new contract it is stuck in 2025.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Looking at the cap for future years is very deceptive.

They have 65M in cap space for 2025; however, new contracts for Dak and CeeDee will add up to about 90M per season.

Currently Dak and CeeDee show as zero dollars for 2025 because they're not undercontract.

Overthecap shows a huge amount of cap space for 2027 because they only have 9 players under contract.
- Diggs, Steele and this year's draft picks...

Even if they wanted to push money down the road, most of the big cap hits in 2024 are for players on the final year of their contract.
Dak 55M
Zack Martin 15.5M
DLaw 10M
Cooks 10M
Gallup Dead Money 13.5M

They only have 3.8M available for 2024 and that does not include:
- The extra 2 players added for in-season cap rules (only 51 count during the offseason).
- The 16 man practice squad.
- Player contracts added to replace any players that end up on IR.

- Between 3.5M and 6M for the practice squad.
- A minimum of 1.5M for the 52nd and 53rd players.

Everything you said is factual but it’s also a little too black and white. The salary cap is all about playing in the gray area.

Signing Dak/Lamb would add an average of $90m but that’s not including any void years and it’s not factoring in that signing these guys should bring down the cap hits for 2024. This is my major issue with waiting to sign these guys.

Not to mention that we are just assuming these deals get done, which isn’t guaranteed at this point especially for Prescott who has a no franchise clause.

I get that there are some major contracts for this team in the near future but there are options if they were motivated to act on them. The cowboys are not nearly in the cap hell Stephen jones tells the media.

 

[noshame]

Dak is the reason we're not going all in on "THIS SEASON ". We are building for a bright future.
We have our QB, it will become more obvious as the weeks go by.

 

[xwalker]

Everything you said is factual but it’s also a little too black and white. The salary cap is all about playing in the gray area.

Signing Dak/Lamb would add an average of $90m but that’s not including any void years and it’s not factoring in that signing these guys should bring down the cap hits for 2024. This is my major issue with waiting to sign these guys.

Not to mention that we are just assuming these deals get done, which isn’t guaranteed at this point especially for Prescott who has a no franchise clause.

I get that there are some major contracts for this team in the near future but there are options if they were motivated to act on them. The cowboys are not nearly in the cap hell Stephen jones tells the media.

What if they don't re-sign Dak and...
Option 1: Dak wins the Super Bowl.

Option 2: Dak sucks in the playoffs..

 

[xwalker]

With a new contract it can be moved. Without a new contract it is stuck in 2025.

It can't be prorated. Only money not already paid out can be prorated.
- i.e. A big current year salary can be converted to a signing bonus and prorated up to 5 years.

 

[Chasing6]

It can't be prorated. Only money not already paid out can be prorated.
- i.e. A big current year salary can be converted to a signing bonus and prorated up to 5 years.

So they pay him $5M next year and push the new contract down the road.

 

[TheSport78]

It blows me away to hear another man say what another man should get on his paycheck. I mean...think about this...if someone who has not had step foot in any man's role, shoes, or has his skillset to say what he should be making....is somewhat disturbing. Let another man determine what you should be making and it's a different ballgame. Stay out of that man's pockets.

Disturbing? Calm down, chief. It’s an opinion on an Internet forum. If anything’s disturbing, it’s how triggered you are.

 

[xwalker]

So they pay him $5M next year and push the new contract down the road.

Then the caps hit on a 5 year contract look something like this:

45
74
74
74
74

or

45
46
83
83
83

 

[Chasing6]

Then the caps hit on a 5 year contract look something like this:

45
74
74
74
74

or

45
46
83
83
83

The will add another year for dead cap space and the Cap supposedly will continue to climb.

 

[Parcells4Life]

Would this team go out and get the top DT, RB or LB on the free agent market if we had a QB on a rookie deal or even between 20-30 mil a year? Probably not.

I'm not on the Dak bandwagon, but the best bet is probably extending Dak and shoring up the run offense AND defense.

He’s gonna count 40 mil next year even if he doesn’t resign. So no

 

[xwalker]

The will add another year for dead cap space and the Cap supposedly will continue to climb.

Then they'll end up with such extreme dead money once Dak is gone that they won't be able to pay 53 minimum wage players...

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

Mods...please please please clean this stuff up

Why? He brings up valid points. Dak has struggled without strong supporting casts, and has failed in the post season with them.

I like the guy and appreciate what he's given back to the community. He's been a warrior on the field. I admire his toughness and appreciate the memories that he's made.....but he has his flaws, and unfortunately it seems one of those is inconsistency in big moments. He's a damn good bus driver, but he needs help in big moments, and paying him 55-60m makes it very difficult to bring in the necessary components for success.

I just don't see how more of the same salary cap restrictions will lead to different results. Parsons and Lamb have contracts coming up. Diggs Is being paid well. Then Tyler Smith, and whoever else proves they're worth keeping around. All names listed are the foundation that this team needs to build around, but they can't all stay if Dak gets the contract that he wants. Has Dak earned the right to compromise the young foundation of this team? 2 playoff wins, 9 years? I don't think so, but you're entitled to your opinion.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Why? He brings up valid points. Dak has struggled without strong supporting casts, and has failed in the post season with them.

I like the guy and appreciate what he's given back to the community. He's been a warrior on the field. I admire his toughness and appreciate the memories that he's made.....but he has his flaws, and unfortunately it seems one of those is inconsistency in big moments. He's a damn good bus driver, but he needs help in big moments, and paying him 55-60m makes it very difficult to bring in the necessary components for success.

I just don't see how more of the same salary cap restrictions will lead to different results. Parsons and Lamb have contracts coming up. Diggs Is being paid well. Then Tyler Smith, and whoever else proves they're worth keeping around. All names listed are the foundation that this team needs to build around, but they can't all stay if Dak gets the contract that he wants. Has Dak earned the right to compromise the young foundation of this team? 2 playoff wins, 9 years? I don't think so, but you're entitled to your opinion.

What would you prefer happen? Would you like Dak to sign the same deal he did four years ago and continue to be the Cowboys quarterback? That would represent quite a discount compared to what he’ll get as a free agent. Or would you like the Cowboys to get rid of him?

 

[Chasing6]

Then they'll end up with such extreme dead money once Dak is gone that they won't be able to pay 53 minimum wage players...

Hahaha

 

[Dorsett33]

If that man is deciding whether I should be making $45MM or $60MM I'm OK with that. It's ridiculous to compare this to the average american worker IMO. Dak can make more money in one year that 99% of the fans will make in their lifetimes, yet these same fans are the reason Dak is given the opportunity to make generational wealth for playing a game. Fans should be more than welcome to have an opinion on player salaries.

What a man makes does not matter. Many forget that this is still their job...lol. It doesn't matter of the income. If a man makes 200k, then a man that make 10k a year can say what goes in his pockets? Lol...no.

 

[Dorsett33]

Disturbing? Calm down, chief. It’s an opinion on an Internet forum. If anything’s disturbing, it’s how triggered you are.

From your post, I'm calmer than you. And just like you said, I can give my opinion also.....chief!