If the Cowboys Don't Sign a Better Back Up QB, They've Lost their Minds

[SteveTheCowboy]

The only competitive advantage the Cowboys have over the eagles in 2022 (and possibly even Washington) is their QB. I really don't care who the backup is; there is virtually no chance of winning the east if Dak misses more than a couple of games. And frankly I trust Rush as much as either of the other two so I don't care.

What realistic chance does ANY team have of winning their division let alone championship or super bowl with backup?

There are some historic examples...and a LOT of failures. But I am willing to listen to anyone that has "suggestions".

Dumb thread is dumb. Even starting QB';s can't win their division let alone a super bowl. What the F!!!!

 

[Pass2Run]

Who is available that is markedly better? Just asking as I haven't looked at the other team's cuts. Thanks!

It's like people just won't read. You ask me this and I gave you two guys in the OP, Strong and Johnson.

These guys aren't world beaters yet, especially not Johnson. In one game, he had a better outing than all three of our guys had over three preseason games and he did it against a decent defense.

I'm not saying these guys will blow you away, right away. I'm saying they are likely better prospects than Grier, DiNucci, Rush because to me, almost anyone is better.

I admit, I like Grier to some degree. But he was inconsistent. And I just see these guys as better prospects.

If you truly are interested, there's a lot of film on Strong on Youtube. I'm basing my assumption off of Johnson based off his performance in preseason game 1. He looked good for a backup playing with backups.

Grier looked good at times, but never consistently. DiNucci had the best drive of them all, but he was also very inconsistent. Our line didn't help at all. But I'm just not a big fan of these guys, even if it comes to a point where we just need them to get us through a couple games.

That's two, just that I can see. Ask around here, and some other guys/gals can probably give you some insight on players out there.

 

[Ring6]

deep breath inhale ... hold it ...

now release, and say nooooooooch

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I don't like how Jerry gets sentimentally attached to players. It seems like once you get on Jerry's good side, he'll keep you around for a while even if it's detrimental to the team.

We've seen this since Emmit, and several other players.

People say it was one of the worst drafts for quarterbacks, and there's some truth to that. But it wasn't so bad that you can't go pick up one of the better prospects in last year's draft to be your backup for a while, or at least 3rd string to develop.

Carson Strong had a knee injury and was told never to play again. But he went back and played and played very well. Like 70 percent completion rating and has a freaking cannon for an arm.

Then, the guy that whipped us from Denver, Josh Johnson, is also out there, if you need a healthier guy without the potential for a knee injury.

I'm cool with them keeping one of those three guys. To me, it doesn't matter who, but I would suggest Greir or DiNucci if you just have to keep one.

I think we all know that it's entirely possible to upgrade at backup quarterback.

Yes, it's nice to be able release all of your QBs knowing that no one is stupid enough to pick them up so you can stash guys on IR.

But when it comes time to play a game, and Dak gets hurt, we're going to wish we had better players than these guys.

Enough with this sunk cost nonsense.

Cut bait and upgrade.

I hate to use such a cliche' term, but this is such a no-brainer.

You made this thrEAd becuase you are an attention *****. RIGHZTZ? Come on..ADMIT IT.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

It's like people just won't read. You ask me this and I gave you two guys in the OP, Strong and Johnson.

These guys aren't world beaters yet, especially not Johnson. In one game, he had a better outing than all three of our guys had over three preseason games and he did it against a decent defense.

I'm not saying these guys will blow you away, right away. I'm saying they are likely better prospects than Grier, DiNucci, Rush because to me, almost anyone is better.

I admit, I like Grier to some degree. But he was inconsistent. And I just see these guys as better prospects.

If you truly are interested, there's a lot of film on Strong on Youtube. I'm basing my assumption off of Johnson based off his performance in preseason game 1. He looked good for a backup playing with backups.

Grier looked good at times, but never consistently. DiNucci had the best drive of them all, but he was also very inconsistent. Our line didn't help at all. But I'm just not a big fan of these guys, even i it comes to a point where we just need them to get us through a couple games.

I see so you are proclaiming yourself a backup quarterback expert. If YOU were just the QB picker why we;d win the division AND a super bowl!

Good to know buddy!

 

[cowfan]

Can I call this a stupid and dumb post without bringing the ire of moderators. It's a stupid, dumb and wasted post since the Cowboys will have a backup.

 

[Pass2Run]

What "better backup": do you want them to sign? And is available. Name names

Oh, Lawd!

Not you, Steve!

 

[Pass2Run]

Can I call this a stupid and dumb post without bringing the ire of moderators. It's a stupid, dumb and wasted post since the Cowboys will have a backup.

You can. I'm not offended.

Just remember, I'm looking back at you calling me dumb. Nothing personal. But the fact you went there rather than considering it tells me enough to just let that shot just slide.

 

[Pass2Run]

I see so you are proclaiming yourself a backup quarterback expert. If YOU were just the QB picker why we;d win the division AND a super bowl!

Good to know buddy!

I like how you put words in my mouth.

When did I say I was an expert?

Just a fan who likes to evaluate players individually. I do have a knack for player evaluation though. I won't lie. Not something a dozen other guys on this forum can't do as well. it's not like it's super complex and stuff. But, yeah, I never said expert. That would mean I do it for more than just hobby in my spare time. But I've been doing this for decades, as a hobby, since I was a young teen. I've been wrong, sometimes, too, admittedly. Just not often.

I see several other guys with the same knack.

My . . some of you are bitter today.

What gives?

 

[Pass2Run]

They literally just started Cooper Rush last year and won a game with him lol....

I'm aware.

I've watched that game 4 times now.

Some of you would like to give him a ring for winning a game.

 

[TwentyOne]

How many backup QBs do they need? They've already got one starting.

This!

 

[Pass2Run]

bruh you need to relax. So defensive.

I'm relaxed.

Bruh.

I'm simply making an argument. Haven't once made it personal, even in my response. Just stating why I think what I think.

 

[Pass2Run]

You made this thrEAd becuase you are an attention *****. RIGHZTZ? Come on..ADMIT IT.

It's so ironic that you say this.

I said it tongue and cheek, you know, with the left tackle position happening and it being so obvious that our back ups stink.

Grow a . . . sense of humor.

If you're so offended by a post, do what I do and ignore it.

I welcome you to ignore it. Just like I'm about to ignore you.

 

[rambo2]

I don't like how Jerry gets sentimentally attached to players. It seems like once you get on Jerry's good side, he'll keep you around for a while even if it's detrimental to the team.

We've seen this since Emmit, and several other players.

People say it was one of the worst drafts for quarterbacks, and there's some truth to that. But it wasn't so bad that you can't go pick up one of the better prospects in last year's draft to be your backup for a while, or at least 3rd string to develop.

Carson Strong had a knee injury and was told never to play again. But he went back and played and played very well. Like 70 percent completion rating and has a freaking cannon for an arm.

Then, the guy that whipped us from Denver, Josh Johnson, is also out there, if you need a healthier guy without the potential for a knee injury.

I'm cool with them keeping one of those three guys. To me, it doesn't matter who, but I would suggest Greir or DiNucci if you just have to keep one.

I think we all know that it's entirely possible to upgrade at backup quarterback.

Yes, it's nice to be able release all of your QBs knowing that no one is stupid enough to pick them up so you can stash guys on IR.

But when it comes time to play a game, and Dak gets hurt, we're going to wish we had better players than these guys.

Enough with this sunk cost nonsense.

Cut bait and upgrade.

I hate to use such a cliche' term, but this is such a no-brainer.

They are fine with Grier and or Rush.

 

[Pass2Run]

Funny how you skipped Romo's name.

I suspect that's what the personal attacks are all about.

Everyone was so certain he was a scrub.

I insisted he wasn't.

But I'm not trying to rehash that.

I do find it funny that everyone is so mad about a post that says Jerry and Son lost their minds, on a board that perpetually bashes Jerry.

They'll rag on him for the LT spot, even though we have a decent prospect at LT right now.

But they're good to go with Cooper Rush, say if Dak break's his leg in game 3 or something..

Just go ahead and tank, they say. Because that would be such a fun season.

 

[RonWashington]

Well for one Chris Streveler former Cardinal cut by the Jets today is in my humble opinion no worst then what left the building today. I would have kept him and Mike White over a washed out Joe Flacco but the Jets are 3-14 because they earn it .

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'm aware.

I've watched that game 4 times now.

Some of you would like to give him a ring for winning a game.

I don't like him personally as a player. Hell i'd even go as far as to say he won that game by luck. But he did EXACTLY what you'd ask your backup to do so that's just where I disagree at.

 

[Pass2Run]

Exactly. Use a mid-round pick, as I have said repeatedly. Maybe a 3rd-5th round pick every few years. Rinse and repeat.

Assuming Rush is re-signed to be the backup QB, the Cowboys will have a grand total of zero draft capital allocated to the backup QB spot. That's an underinvestment at an important position.

I like your logic here, Twisted. Good stuff, and I agree.

That's part of my rationale on the Strong suggestion. He's a risk because of his knee. But he's a risk I'd consider taking because he'd be a backup anyway, not our starter that we'd lean on for 17 games. And at one point towards the end of his career, before his injury and surgery to replace his knee or whatever, he was considered to be a 1st round prospect. He's a rookie, but there's enough talent there to gamble on when it doesn't cost you anything. It's almost like using a draft pick without having to spend it.. you get a guy with a potentially bum knee. He played fine in college though.

Will the Cowboys do it?

Doubtful, in my mind, because I know how they think.

Anyway, I appreciate your insight here and agree with you that it would be nice add a little more talent to that spot.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Exactly. Use a mid-round pick, as I have said repeatedly. Maybe a 3rd-5th round pick every few years. Rinse and repeat.

Assuming Rush is re-signed to be the backup QB, the Cowboys will have a grand total of zero draft capital allocated to the backup QB spot. That's an underinvestment at an important position.

Because they did exactly what you said they should do. They spent a draft pick on Mike White and he's off the team.

You could be right. Maybe that's the right thing to do. I'm of the belief that I could care less about QB if I have a franchise QB. If he goes down then I take whatever lumps come with that and get a good draft pick.

 

[Pass2Run]

I don't like him personally as a player. Hell i'd even go as far as to say he won that game by luck. But he did EXACTLY what you'd ask your backup to do so that's just where I disagree at.

I appreciate that he won, too. I was impressed the first time I watched it. Then the season ended and I watched that game several more times and I don't think he could consistently win that game. I like that he won, I just don't put much stock into the fact he won a game .