If the draft started today, McFadden or Jackson?

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iceberg;1617500 said:
no - this thread says what 2 players did today and which we'd draft if the draft were today.

we don't know what romo will do
we don't know what jones and barber will do
we don't know what hurd will do
we don't know how bad newman really is

so before you even know your team needs in a year you're trying to spend that pick based off 2 players playing and a whole team with that pick not putting a snap on the field yet.

JUST a tad premature.

sorry that concept loses you.
Dude, it's not about what Romo will do or what Jones and Barber will do. It's based on what we know right now.

You claim to have an inkling of knowledge about what this thread was intended as, but every post confirms you haven't a clue.

Thanks for making this thread about your and your thread topic tastes, rather than the OP's topic. :rolleyes:
 

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Hailmary;1617426 said:
I agree. I thought Lavelle Hawkins looked like the best WR out there tonight.

I agree 100%.

Forsett is a stud RB and that Freshman "Best" I think it was has great potential.
 

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theogt;1617507 said:
Dude, it's not about what Romo will do or what Jones and Barber will do. It's based on what we know right now.

You claim to have an inkling of knowledge about what this thread was intended as, but every post confirms you haven't a clue.

Thanks for making this thread about your and your thread topic tastes, rather than the OP's topic. :rolleyes:

that's just it - we don't now enough NOW to worry about what we'll do in a YEAR from now.

you think i'm clueless? great. ignore me. problem solved.

as for what i made this thread - hey - that happens in a DISCUSSION FORUM.

you can't have it one day, dude.
 

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iceberg;1617500 said:
no - this thread says what 2 players did today and which we'd draft if the draft were today.

we don't know what romo will do
we don't know what jones and barber will do
we don't know what hurd will do
we don't know how bad newman really is
we don't know what these players will do for the rest of the year

so before you even know your team needs in a year you're trying to spend that pick based off 2 players playing and a whole team with that pick not putting a snap on the field yet.

JUST a tad premature.

sorry that concept loses you.

I think the "based on today" concept has lost you. You do realize that you can pose hypothetical questions with certain factors remaining constants, don't you?

There's nothing wrong with this thread. It's normal. It's what every NFL team's message boards do.

...for the record, I want both.
 

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iceberg;1617505 said:
that is what the thread is about.

my 'reply' is how premature that is to even consider now and you may as well write science fiction as anything else because so much more has to come together before you can make a logical decision.

It's totally premature. Luckily, it has no bearing on what actually happens...so why get upset by it? It's all in good fun...sometimes. ;)



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tomson75;1617513 said:
I think the "based on today" concept has lost you. You don realize that you can pose hypothetical questions with certain factors remaining constants, don't you?

There's nothing wrong with this thread. It's normal. It's what every NFL team's message boards do.

...for the record, I want both.

no, it hasn't lost me at all. it's just pointless. it's like predicting life with the way 1 breathe went.

today it's all WR and RB.

what if newmans career is over? not saying it will be but what if in time we find out it is.

cb just because more important than either wr or cb. so this "gosh let's pretend today ended the year and let's draft now!" is just way too early for me.

i get the concept.
i understand people will do it.
i think it's stupid and pointless laden with short term vision and not even being patient enough to see what our real needs will be.

people make far too many decisions based on not enough information. in the end that's all that's being done here. is it done in the name of boredom driven discussion?

probably.

and to those people i'm sure i'm overreacting.

but to my way of thinking you may as wel write fiction stories and make up 99% of reality baed on the 1% of reality you saw today.

you can't make a valid decisino on what we'll do in a year based off today.

will people do it?

yes. and it will get very annoying cause like bb said, they'll be speculating the cleveland pick and making way too much of every win or loss cleveland goes through.

some people see short term and run. some people see long term and plan. those people will argue. IN A DISCUSSION FORUM especially.

romo can tank.
hurd and crayton can step up
mcfadden could fall off the face of the earth

so much can happen before "reality" will come back into play that using 1% of info to gauge 100% of action is just silly to me. yet, i know people will do it. and i'll be here to say how foolish it is. and people will get all mad cause they're not understood. and i just don't care at this point if you get my drift or not.

we got a year to play before the draft matters.
 

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tomson75;1617516 said:
It's totally premature. Luckily, it has no bearing on what actually happens...so why get upset by it? It's all in good fun...sometimes. ;)

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signed, Bill and Ted.

you got a much better reaction than theogt.

i get where it comes from but to the way i think it's just a waste of time. what else you gonna do w/it?

dunno. but we all have our triggers and points of annoyance and we'll speak up when we hit 'em. like theogt did. no worse than my speaking out to begin with for the same reasons.

but when someone goes "my gosh that's shiney i want it!" i just have to laugh. when your "pick" comes in it may not be shiney anymore. or the reasons for the shine may have changed. worrying about what you'll do a year before it matters just makes no sense to me.

i'm not saying don't watch and analyze the players. i'm not saying don't talk about them. i'm not saying don't discuss how a given player could benefit the team.

i am saying that spending a draft pick we have no idea where it will fall from a team we have no idea idea how they will do to address needs we have no idea what they will be *today* is just a tad premature.

sorry that gets lost on some people.
 

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iceberg;1617521 said:
you got a much better reaction than theogt.

i get where it comes from but to the way i think it's just a waste of time. what else you gonna do w/it?

i'm not saying don't watch and analyze the players. i'm not saying don't talk about them. i'm not saying don't discuss how a given player could benefit the team.

i am saying that spending a draft pick we have no idea where it will fall from a team we have no idea idea how they will do to address needs we have no idea what they will be *today* is just a tad premature.

sorry that gets lost on some people.
 

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iceberg;1617470 said:
i read.

please get "my view" before you judge it.

we've not played a friggin regular season game. talking next years draft is jsut as stupid as worrying about who we'll draft in 2011.

romo can falter
hurd can step up
newman could be gone for life
our OL could lose 3 players

i don't care if we draft today cause we've got a year to play before it makes one damn bit of difference. so yea, it's a prediction of our need based on an incredible lack of information.

Hey...is that a shot at my sig? Why drag me into this?
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Draft Mcfadden

Then sign Charles Rodgers and later cut him. Chances are about equal for a highly drafted WR.
 

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iceberg;1617435 said:
maybe they did. but this "oh my god - mcfadden made a 28 yard run - we must have him!!!" crap is going to get old all through the year.

Maybe you should start ignoring it now then, huh?


iceberg;1617485 said:
wow - bb and i agreeing on something.


Exactly. That should tell you a whole lot right there.
 

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if an elite CB is sitting there with our first pick that should be our first choice
 

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tomson75;1617516 said:
It's totally premature. Luckily, it has no bearing on what actually happens...so why get upset by it? It's all in good fun...sometimes. ;)



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signed, Bill and Ted.

Yep! That's why I started it...for fun! I do understand Iceberg's view, I've done the same, but just didn't post in the discussion. It's just as easy to move to another topic, as we all have done before!! I cannot wait until Sunday night! I remember how jacked up I was last season, when we went to Jacksonville and... well, we know the rest!!! Go Romo!! :D
 

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jackrussell;1617604 said:
Hey...is that a shot at my sig? Why drag me into this?
:eek::

if it is it's purely unintentional - i have sigs turned off cause some of 'em get pretty crazy big and make the scrolling take just that much longer. : )
 

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Rack;1617662 said:
Maybe you should start ignoring it now then, huh?

Exactly. That should tell you a whole lot right there.

just because someone i rarely agree with i now happen to agree with - that doesn't make either of us right or wrong.

it's just gonna get so old hearing CLEVELAND LOST! here's come the #1 pick and mcfadden!!!" when you have NO CLUE as to if the rest of the season will play out that way, our needs won't change, and mcfadden will still be a top choice.

so much can change in a year it's all pointless to me. when people do it, i'll whine. i never said *i'd* ignore it. i said if my whining bugs you, feel free to ignore *me*.

get it right.
 

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rathalarge;1617680 said:
Yep! That's why I started it...for fun! I do understand Iceberg's view, I've done the same, but just didn't post in the discussion. It's just as easy to move to another topic, as we all have done before!! I cannot wait until Sunday night! I remember how jacked up I was last season, when we went to Jacksonville and... well, we know the rest!!! Go Romo!! :D

i get why you started it and i appreciate your reply. probably nicer than my initial reply to the whole topic. like i said, i'm sure i came across harsh but it's just a pet peeve of mine i may need to just keep in check more.
 
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