If the Giants can make the playoffs and capture the number one seed without a # 1....

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Jason Garrett and his $ 3 million dollar, bomb happy, sloppy, street ball, inconsistent excuse for an NFL offense. That wasn't Norv Turner's offense. Turner said that Jason Garrett wasn't ready to have complete control of the offense, and he was right. At least, it was reported.

The Dallas Cowboys just went 9-7, because Jason Garrett couldn't manage some critical games. Forget the problems with the structure and philosophy of the offense. He couldn't simply manage some games, critical games.

How anyone couldn't see this, is way beyond me.

Marion Barber 8 carries and Felix Jones 0 (Washington)

Can we get Sparano back to hold his hand next year, because it sure looked liked he needed him this year.

Garrett should give Jerry Jones a refund.

If the structure and philosophy of this offense doesn't change, the Cowboys will be 9-7 again. I agree, get rid of Owens. The Cowboys don't need him. That would be the first personnel move that I made on offense. Can we send Owens to that British lady who tells people that they are "the weakest link, good bye". :rolleyes:

What a turnover machine.

When you go on the road next year, leave the turnover machine behind.
 

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Lucky us, Osi will be back in NY next year. Should be interesting.
 

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BouncingCheese;2547089 said:
Why can't we? They have no more all-pro tight end (shockey gone to NO) , Plexiglass has been injury prone or incapacitated with a bullet hole in his leg... They have no elite or number one recievers... how is it that they have been able to win the NFC and consequently the number one overall seed?

Look at their running game. Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward, and Ahmad Bradshaw have been controlling the pace and time of posession for the giants. Eli Manning has passed when he needed to, and has been MUCH more effective off of play-action or because the defense has been putting an extra player in the box because they are respecting the run.

Romo is much more accurate(although he has a weaker arm. Why are expecting this guy to be brett favre? Why is Jason garret treating him like he's brett Favre? Romo has a weak arm, lets face it. Its average. But that doesn't matter.

Although Barber isn't Jacobs, he is a very tough runner and it is a pain in the *** for defensive players to bring him down and he tires them. Felix Jones is a homerun threat and a threat in the passing game as a change of pace back. Tashard choice showed us that although he doesn't have homerun speed, he is quick enough and has great vision and is a solid back, maybe the most complete back between the three of them.

Who is to say that we need Terrell Owens? think about that rushing attack with Roy Williams, considering we already have an all-pro tight end and martellus bennet, and patrick crayton and miles austin? What is so bad about having a run-oriented offense? Obviously we see that Romo can't do much behind that line the way that it is (and I dont see it changing very much) in terms of passing, and when teams key in on him.

Not to suggest that this would alleviate all of the problems we are having offensively, but Romo is not effective unless he is working from a balanced attack.
This the first year the giants have won the NFC in a very long time. They won their division 3 years ago and thats it.

They are a team. If you are a balanced football team, you don't need a #1. Build at the lines.
 

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kevin11;2547534 said:
They are a team. If you are a balanced football team, you don't need a #1. Build at the lines.

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So easy, even a Commanders fan gets it.
 

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Thing to remember about the Giants, is that their team concept was developed at great cost and effort over quite a while. Remember, Coughlin was close to being fired just a few years back, the team was in total disarray. But his style forged that group of players into a solid core that plays solid football. That is a team, head to toe. To do what they did to New England last year required a team to be more than the sum of it's parts - who thought they had more talent than New England? They had determination and singlularity of purpose, forged through adversity, discipline, and shared commitment. That is a culture that takes time to build, and it's why it is so critical we change it here as soon as possible...
 

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Because the Giants Oline dominates people and ours gets owned game in and game out.
 

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It was only two seasons ago when the Giants where what we are now. A team loaded with talent, that everyone expected a lot out of, but never performed up to their expectations. They had a talented QB, that seemed to choke in big games, they had talented skills players that liked to bicker, they had a defense that would "shoot free throws" every time they made a decent play. I even remembered questions about the O-line and D-line going into the season two years ago.
Who would have thought two years ago that, at different points, the Giants would lose Barber, Shockey, Strahan, Burress, and Osi but still go on to win the Super Bowl last year and be favored to win it again this year?
They did three things that we could do:
1. The running game became their identity on Offense. We have the backs to do it, and I think we have the O-line to do it. This O-line was made to maul people, not pass block out of the shotgun forty times a game. We had a rookie that averaged 5.1 yards per carry as a starter against four of the toughest defenses in the league, we had another rookie average 8.9 yards per carry! I know Barber's numbers were down, but I really think that was a product of his being injured most of the year.
2. Instill discipline. I actually think we can do this without Phillips acting like BP. Tony Dungy is the biggest soft-spoken "cup cake" coach of all, but when you think of the Colts you think of discpline. When a player doesn't know the plays you sit his butt on the bench until he does or you cut him. If a reciever doesn't run the right route, sit his butt and put Crayton, Miles, or Hurd in. If a defensive player doesn't anchor or tackle sit his butt. Its much better to have an average disciplined player than a highly talented non-disciplined player.
3. Cut the cancers out. If there are players that don't like your new philosophies, cut em. Right now. Now the question is, who are the cancers? That is something that the media, the fans, and the Owner, should NOT decide. The guys making those decisions should be the coaches and the coaches only.
 

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Go back and look at the teams that have won the SB this decade and its amazing how little the WR cores did overall.

Ravens, The 3 Pat teams, TB, Steelers....

Most of the teams that have won the SB this decade didn't even have a 1000yd WR.

The top 5 rushing teams are in the playoffs this year, the top 5 teams at stopping the run are in the playoffs and the top 5 teams in turnover diff. are the in the playoffs.

The top 5 passing teams in the NFL all missed the playoffs this season.
 

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OILERMAN;2548444 said:
Go back and look at the teams that have won the SB this decade and its amazing how little the WR cores did overall.

Ravens, The 3 Pat teams, TB, Steelers....

Most of the teams that have won the SB this decade didn't even have a 1000yd WR.

The top 5 rushing teams are in the playoffs this year, the top 5 teams at stopping the run are in the playoffs and the top 5 teams in turnover diff. are the in the playoffs.

The top 5 passing teams in the NFL all missed the playoffs this season.

Give me smash mouth over glitz every day. Good post.
 
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