If The Stuff With Cutler & Denver Continues...

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...it could have a tremendous ripple effect throughout the NFL. The entire Draft horizon could change.


Divorce in Denver Inevitable?


Mike Klis reports in the Denver Post it now appears a real possibility the two sides are headed for a divorce based on irreconcilable differences.

"I'm very disappointed," Broncos owner Pat Bowlen said Sunday of the feud between his quarterback and first-year coach. "I'm disappointed in the whole picture, not just disappointed that we might lose our star quarterback."

Asked to clarify, Bowlen said he is steadfastly supports his new coach and his disappointment lies in the way Cutler has handled the situation.

Friction between Cutler and McDaniels appears to have escalated following a meeting Saturday. Attending the meeting were Cutler, his agent Bus Cook, McDaniels and Broncos general manager Brian Xanders.

The Broncos say no ultimatums were given during the Saturday meeting, which the team characterized as mild-mannered, with no raised voices. However, no reconciliation was reached.
 

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Thats why im no fan of Cutler he always seems whinny .....i mean ok be mad they tried to trade you but its a business...move on do your job and prove them wrong for trying to trade you...
 

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I don't understand how this all started. Did he and the new headcoach get into it? Who proposed a trade first?
 

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Jon88;2690892 said:
I don't understand how this all started. Did he and the new headcoach get into it? Who proposed a trade first?

They are saying Cutler asked for a trade, and Cutler is saying he's mad cause the new coach entertained the idea of getting Matt Cassel to replace him.

The fact that there is only like 7 year difference between the new coach and Cutler probably doesn't help.

I don't see how a new coach even discusses something like that after the QB of his new team just came off a pro bowl season, has all the tools and has shown leadership in addressing Brandon Marshall and all that.

Makes zero sense.
 

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what the hell is wrong with the chiefs:confused:

i understand scott got his guy cassell but come on how do you pass up a chance to get a real stud like cutler

no way im not on the phone 1st thing in the morning saying you want cassell that bad here he goes.

i would trade him straight up for jay cutler.

cassell isnt even in the same class as cutler. cassell struggled against the better teams in the nfl and had problems all yr throwing down field.

he had a lot of inflated passing yards as a result of the pats using their passing game as a way to run. a lot of yards late in the yr came after the catch and and againgst poor pass defenses. cassell is a medicore qb at best
 

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TheCount;2690899 said:
They are saying Cutler asked for a trade, and Cutler is saying he's mad cause the new coach entertained the idea of getting Matt Cassel to replace him.

The fact that there is only like 7 year difference between the new coach and Cutler probably doesn't help.

I don't see how a new coach even discusses something like that after the QB of his new team just came off a pro bowl season, has all the tools and has shown leadership in addressing Brandon Marshall and all that.

Makes zero sense.


Yeah that doesn't make any sense. I don't even know why the coach would say that.
 

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Cutler needs to shut up!!! What has he done for the Denver Broncos, he has only been playing for a couple of years. Cutler always portrays himself as a spoiled kid who thinks the world owes him.

Face it Jay, the new coaching staff did not draft you so they owe you nothing. You have to go in there and earn their trust. So what if they bring in another qb and offered you as trade bait, your getting paid to play football just shut up and play!!!

I saw a thread asking people if they wanted to trade Romo for Cutler, I say NO WAY!!!
 

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Marktui;2690916 said:
Cutler needs to shut up!!! What has he done for the Denver Broncos, he has only been playing for a couple of years. Cutler always portrays himself as a spoiled kid who thinks the world owes him.

Face it Jay, the new coaching staff did not draft you so they owe you nothing. You have to go in there and earn their trust. So what if they bring in another qb and offered you as trade bait, your getting paid to play football just shut up and play!!!

I saw a thread asking people if they wanted to trade Romo for Cutler, I say NO WAY!!!

What is halarius is the same guys who are hammering Romo for not being able to win the "big games" and collasping in Decemeber are the guys wanting to trade for Cutler.

Cutler has never even seen the playoffs, ever. Talk about collasping, the Broncos just had to win 1 of their last 3 games to make the playoffs and they lost all 3 games (including a home loss in mile high to the freaking Bills).

How the hell do you lose a home game aginst the Bills in Mile High with playoff tickets waiting for you in the lockerroom???
 

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dadymat;2690891 said:
Thats why im no fan of Cutler he always seems whinny .....i mean ok be mad they tried to trade you but its a business...move on do your job and prove them wrong for trying to trade you...

No kidding, what's wrong with this giy? I've lost all respect for Cutler, get over it chump and go play ball. This whole thing is ridiculous
 

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jwitten82;2690928 said:
I found this on the brocos messesge board
http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=138028
I wonder what team he will get traded to if they o trade him.

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:lmao2:
 

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GOLDENCHILD1688;2690910 said:
what the hell is wrong with the chiefs:confused:

i understand scott got his guy cassell but come on how do you pass up a chance to get a real stud like cutler

no way im not on the phone 1st thing in the morning saying you want cassell that bad here he goes.

i would trade him straight up for jay cutler.

cassell isnt even in the same class as cutler. cassell struggled against the better teams in the nfl and had problems all yr throwing down field.

he had a lot of inflated passing yards as a result of the pats using their passing game as a way to run. a lot of yards late in the yr came after the catch and and againgst poor pass defenses. cassell is a medicore qb at best


Well from the reports it was a three team trade and Cutler would have went to the Bucs and not the Chiefs.
 

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The Breaking News on ESPN News is Cutler officially has asked for a trade. I keep getting a feeling he will end up in Minny, lets all hope not thats all they need is a competent QB to be Super Bowl favorites.
 

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yimyammer;2690932 said:
No kidding, what's wrong with this giy? I've lost all respect for Cutler, get over it chump and go play ball. This whole thing is ridiculous

You're married to a team. One day you found out the team agreed to marry someone else (while still married to you). You would come back to your loveless marriage???

What the office/coaches did is so beyond stupid. I am enjoying this catastrophe.
 

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Hypnotoad;2690959 said:
You're married to a team. One day you found out the team agreed to marry someone else (while still married to you). You would come back to your loveless marriage???

What the office/coaches did is so beyond stupid. I am enjoying this catastrophe.

I think it was far from stupid, its not a marriage its a business. Period.
 

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JVita17;2690952 said:
The Breaking News on ESPN News is Cutler officially has asked for a trade. I keep getting a feeling he will end up in Minny, lets all hope not thats all they need is a competent QB to be Super Bowl favorites.

Yeah this broke earlier tonight...

Cutler says he can't trust McDaniels

By Chris Mortensen
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Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler said Sunday night that he will not report to the team's first meeting on Monday and has formally asked to be traded. He confirmed that a Saturday meeting with first-year coach Josh McDaniels ended badly from his perspective while McDaniels offered another viewpoint on Sunday night.

"I went in there with every intention of solving the issue, being a Bronco, moving forward as a Bronco," Cutler said. "We weren't in there but about 20 minutes, [McDaniels] did most of the talking and as far as I'm concerned, he made it clear he wants his own guy. He admitted he wanted Matt Cassel because he said he has raised him up from the ground as a quarterback. He said he wasn't sorry about it. He made it clear that he could still entertain trading me because, as he put it, he'll do whatever he feels is in the best interest of the organization.

"At the end of the meeting, he wasn't like, 'Jay, I want you as our quarterback, you're our guy.' It felt like the opposite. He basically said that I needed to tell him if we can't work this out, to let him know," Cutler added. "I thought he was antagonizing me and that was disappointing because I was ready to move on, committed as a Bronco. Really, I figured we'd hash things out, shake hands, laugh a little and move forward. What happened [Saturday] was the last thing I expected. If I didn't think it could be fixed, I never would have come back to Denver. It was painfully obvious to me and Bus [Cook, his agent] it's not something they want to fix."

Consequently, Cutler instructed Cook, who also attended the meeting, to formally request a trade. The quarterback said he left town late Sunday and would skip McDaniels' first team meeting on Monday as they begin their offseason program.

Broncos owner Pat Bowlen told the Denver Post on Sunday that he was disappointed with how Cutler has handled the situation. In a telephone interview with ESPN, McDaniels was reluctantly expansive on the story.

"I really have wanted to avoid a he-said, she-said thing but it's only fair for us to present the Bronco side of the story rather than let things get taken out of context," McDaniels said. "There's been a pattern here for the past two weeks the way things [have been represented] in our communications. I don't think anythng that happened [Saturday] was out of the ordinary. At the end of the meeting, Jay said he had thought about things quite a bit and requested a few more hours to mull things over. He said he wanted to talk to Bus on how to proceed. He was gonna call me on my cell phone and that never happened. Instead, Bus called [GM] Brian [Xanders].

"Again, I think that's been a pattern. I couldn't get [Cutler] to talk to me for two weeks or to talk to Mr. Bowlen. Then when he came here this weekend, we couldn't get a one-on-one meeting, just me and him alone. He wanted Bus in there, so I had Brian sit in, too. And it was the four of us. There wasn't any yelling, none of that. I can't believe we get to a totally different [interpretation].

"It's an unfortunate set of circumstances that has cropped up, a potential distraction and we've done our best to limit that. The main message I want to get out is that we're excited to start our offseason program [Monday]. It's an exciting time for us."

Cutler won't be present at the team meeting.

"I certainly went back there, expecting I'd be there [Monday] but not now," Cutler said. "It's not mandatory. I'll attend every mandatory mini-camp and training camp but that's it. Really, it's best for me to move on. As coach said, he needs every eye in the meeting room to be on him and not me."

As McDaniels pointed out, Cutler had a completely different expectation when he left their private meeting on Saturday.

Cutler said: "You know, even after the meeting, I hung around town, kind of expecting him to call me and say, 'Hey, let's just me and you get away and have lunch or a cup of coffee' and mend things, but that didn't happen. So, I get it, really, it's a business. I'm disappointed beause I love being a Bronco but I think it's run its course."

Cutler denied recent reports that he had asked to be traded when the Broncos fired offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates.

"Yes, I was upset when they let Jeremy go because Mr. Bowlen had assured me when Mike [Shanahan] was fired that the offense wouldn't change because it was the second-ranked offense in football," Cutler said. "But I didn't push for a trade then."

McDaniels and Cutler agreed on at least one element of the controversy, knocking down a Sunday report on NFL Network that the coach had criticized the quarterback's play in 2008.

"That just isn't true," McDaniels said. "Not a word has been said about that."
Cutler added: "Josh has never said anything negative to me about my play or anything else, for that matter."

McDaniels admitted that the team got involved in trade discussions for Cassel, who instead was dealt to the Kansas City Chiefs. However, he said any perception Cutler felt that the team could still trade him was misleading.

"That's what we have communicated ever since the deal with Cassel didn't happen," McDaniels said. "Other teams have called but we're not interested in getting draft picks for Jay. I never made a statement [Saturday] that 'you can be traded at any time.' They asked a question and I told them it was the time of year when people inquire about your team. Your job, as a head coach and general manager, is to listen and not bypass any opportunity to help your team improve. I think most people [in the NFL] feel the same way. You make smart, educated decisions that are best for your football team."

Cutler feels like McDaniels lost his credibility with him when he initially denied to the quarterback that the Broncos tried to acquire Cassel only to admit it later.

"Before this trade for Cassel thing ever came up, in the two weeks or so I had spent with McDaniels, he was basically telling me that he came to Denver because he wanted to coach me and that we needed to trust each other," Cutler said. "He's never been critical to me. But trust now? How can I trust him now?"

He also explained that his house being put up for sale was "nothing more than a coincidence."

"I had already shown my house privately to some interested buyers a couple of months ago," Cutler said. "I've really been looking to buy 40 to 70 acres of land there."

As for ignoring phone calls from McDaniels and Bowlen, Cutler said: "Josh and I have exchanged text messages. We had a conference call. And if Pat wanted to speak to me, why didn't he come to the meeting on Saturday?"

Cook said that as an agent he was "totally in shock" that it has gotten so ugly.

"I would have bet my house going into Saturday's meeting that everyone would be shaking hands and smiling," Cook said. "I thought it was going to get worked out. But it was very clear to me that Jay Cutler is not their choice to be quarterback of that team."

Yet Cook admitted that when he called Xanders to request a trade on Saturday night, the team's general manager said it wasn't going to happen and that "Jay should show up Monday."

That wasn't going to happen, either.

Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN.
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I love that McDaniel is telling him to shut up because no one player is more important than the team. He's letting everyone know in Denver that he's the boss and whatever went on under Shanahan was the past and it's now a ne slate completetly.

With that said if the Broncos do trade Cutler they better hope Chris Simms is ready to play ball.
 
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