If The Stuff With Cutler & Denver Continues...

[Beast_from_East]

This isn't hard to figure out.

When you shop your franchise QB, bad things happen if you don't sell him.

... you don't shop your franchise QB unless you are set on getting rid of him.

Everyone who has paid attention knows this, don't they?

I guess it depends on if he was actually being shopped or if somebody called them up and offered them a deal.


If they were shopping Cutler, calling teams and trying to work a trade out with somebody..........then its the team's fault for this mess.

However, if a team called up Denver and proposed a trade, that is different. I mean, I am not going to be shopping Romo or Witten or Barber, but if a team calls me up...........I will at least listen to their proposal, no harm in listening to an offer.

If that is what happened and Cutler is bent out of shape over that................then its Cutler's fault because it is smart business to atleast listen to offers.

 

[Yeagermeister]

They should offer him to Detroit if they really aren't sold on Stafford. Detroit gets a proven vet QB and can cut ties to some questionable vets. Denver can groom Stafford. Win/win.

Yuck what a choice

Keep a crybaby qb

Or trade him and play Simms

I'd keep the crybaby

 

[dbair1967]

Oh, I think that the best offer would be in the top 10 picks. Cutler is a young QB who has already proven himself to a certain extent.


The Lions could take him, clearly.
The Rams could take him, as Bulger is 31 years old.
Seattle could take him, as Hasselbeck is 33.
Jacksonville has a 31 year old David Garrard who is just average as a starter.
San Fran. has the # 10 pick with the recently renegotiated Alex Smith.

Half of the top 10 teams could use a QB of Cutlers ability, I would bet that they seal a deal with one of them.

It'd be a grand larceny steal for any of them too.

McDaniels is going to be a huge loser in Denver.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Broncos organization has been falling apart at the top for years.

Cutler is just pissed because he got what he wanted. Once he heard about the possibility of Cassell, he got insecure and said to heck with it. Now he wants to act betrayed.

Someone already hit it earlier in the thread. Cutler has always whined like a girl, this is aboslutely no different.

 

[DallasEast]

You don't air your dirty laundry out in public. Ever.

I feel for Cutler. He's a young quarterback with room for growth, but giving ammunition to a third party to fight your career battles is beyond stupid.

The media will never improve your position. It will only erode it. The best approach for rectifying the situation is to continue talking with Bowlen and McDaniels in private. A realistic solution will either be a trade or a more solid, tenable working relationship with the head coach.

If Cutler continues to fight his battles hiding behind the media, he'll only end up hurting himself.

 

[adbutcher]

It'd be a grand larceny steal for any of them too.

McDaniels is going to be a huge loser in Denver.

Most teams spend a life time trying to find a QB of Cutler's abilities. They will regret the day they trade him.

Hell we have some of the most prolific whiners in the history of the game on our team yet no one is trying to get rid of them, I am looking at you Greg Ellis, lol.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Cutler's ego is a shade to big. The Broncos should breakoff any talks are relegate him to the bench for a year.

 

[dbair1967]

Like I said, McDaniels is going to be a huge loser. IMO he must be a moron with a mega-ego, why would you take this job with a franchise QB like Cutler in place and signed long term, only to decide you want an undrafted guy like Cassell before you've even run one practice with Cutler?

From Mort at ESPN:

Broncos | Cutler asks to be traded
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 05:20:36 -0700

Chris Mortensen, of ESPN.com, reports Denver Broncos QB Jay Cutler said late Sunday, March 15, that he will not report to the team's first meeting Monday, March 16, and has formally asked to be traded. Cutler confirmed that a meeting Saturday, March 14, with head coach Josh McDaniels ended badly from his perspective. "I went in there with every intention of solving the issue, being a Bronco, moving forward as a Bronco," Cutler said. "We weren't in there but about 20 minutes, (McDaniels) did most of the talking and as far as I'm concerned, he made it clear he wants his own guy. He admitted he wanted Matt Cassel because he said he has raised him up from the ground as a quarterback. He said he wasn't sorry about it. He made it clear that he could still entertain trading me because, as he put it, he'll do whatever he feels is in the best interest of the organization…At the end of the meeting, he wasn't like, 'Jay, I want you as our quarterback, you're our guy.' It felt like the opposite. He basically said that I needed to tell him if we can't work this out, to let him know."

 

[Yeagermeister]

Cutler's ego is a shade to big. The Broncos should breakoff any talks are relegate him to the bench for a year.

So they can get a high draft pick in 2010? :laugh2:

 

[hendog]

Ellis and Crayton for Cutler?

 

[Hypnotoad]

You don't air your dirty laundry out in public. Ever.

I feel for Cutler. He's a young quarterback with room for growth, but giving ammunition to a third party to fight your career battles is beyond stupid.

The media will never improve your position. It will only erode it. The best approach for rectifying the situation is to continue talking with Bowlen and McDaniels in private. A realistic solution will either be a trade or a more solid, tenable working relationship with the head coach.

If Cutler continues to fight his battles hiding behind the media, he'll only end up hurting himself.

Well maybe he is using the media to force the broncos hand. If he wants out of Denver, it'll never happen if he just is quiet. If he creates a big enough distraction the organization might have to part ways (see TO and Eagles).

 

[dbair1967]

Ellis and Crayton for Cutler?

I'd rather Coakley be part of that deal.

 

[reddyuta]

As others have mentioned a franchise QB is more important than a 1st year coach.there must be something else going on here(maybe concern over Cutler's health?)than what meets the eye.

 

[dbair1967]

As others have mentioned a franchise QB is more important than a 1st year coach.there must be something else going on here(maybe concern over Cutler's health?)than what meets the eye.

Doubtful...he's a type I diabetic at a very young age, and he's only had it a couple of years. As long as he follows doctors orders the condition really will have little to no effect on him for years.

 

[DCBoysfan]

Its hard to find good young OB's, it will be interesting to see how this thing turns out.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

There is a huge discrepancy between what McDaniels claims was said in the meeting and what Cutler claims.

IF Cutler's version (and, granted, that's a big 'if') is closer to the truth, then I think he's got a pretty good point. McDaniels says he wants a meeting to sort things out and then gets in the meeting, does all the talking, and explains how trying to trade Cutler was a good move and how he just might do it again...?

IF (If, if, if!) this is true, then McDaniels is pretty frakkin' muleheaded if you ask me.

 

[CATCH17]

You're married to a team. One day you found out the team agreed to marry someone else (while still married to you). You would come back to your loveless marriage???

What the office/coaches did is so beyond stupid. I am enjoying this catastrophe.

Agreed.

I hope they lose Cutler. I can't believe their GM agreed to any of this stuff.

 

[pgreptom]

You're married to a team. One day you found out the team agreed to marry someone else (while still married to you). You would come back to your loveless marriage???

What the office/coaches did is so beyond stupid. I am enjoying this catastrophe.

I completely agree.

If I were a Broncos' fan, I'd be a little upset at both the management, and the player.

But, looking in on the outside - good for Cutler. How do you trust your coaches/management when they just tried to trade you a few days prior for a different QB.

I'd want the hell out of there, too.

 

[CATCH17]

Like I said, McDaniels is going to be a huge loser. IMO he must be a moron with a mega-ego, why would you take this job with a franchise QB like Cutler in place and signed long term, only to decide you want an undrafted guy like Cassell before you've even run one practice with Cutler?

From Mort at ESPN:

Broncos | Cutler asks to be traded
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 05:20:36 -0700

McDaniels better win because this is the most dumb thing I have ever seen an NFL Franchise do and thats saying something.

I completely agree.

If I were a Broncos' fan, I'd be a little upset at both the management, and the player.

But, looking in on the outside - good for Cutler. How do you trust your coaches/management when they just tried to trade you a few days prior for a different QB.

I'd want the hell out of there, too.

Same here.

I might even fire the head coach just to make things right with Cutler.

I'll take a franchise QB over a guy im crossing my fingers and hoping is a good Coach.

 

[Hostile]

Agreed.

I hope they lose Cutler. I can't believe their GM agreed to any of this stuff.

Their GM was hired after Bowlen hired McDaniels as the Head Coach. I know according to some stuff like that never happens in the NFL, but it does, and did.