If this is true, maybe we should go QB in the first

[CCBoy]

With the Veterans that have been filling in along the defensive line, I'm wondering what would be wise.

I think the veterans at defensive end and tackle, are major pieces. But looking at the outside for a future, I think that either a Buckner or a Bosa would be solid, here and now. They both would add solidarity in run defense...but say they are able to hit an 8 sack level, Lawrence looks as though he could hit 10. That is an 18 sack total, with additional imput by a developing Gregory. When that is added to the veterans on roster, well, there should be significant pressure soon to arrive for Marinelli's defense.

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

It seems like a lot of mock drafts have us taking Bosa at 4.

That's not very exciting.

 

[Section446]

Either draft a QB or take Elliot, there are no other options.

 

[lostar2009]

To be fair... I'd say Bobby Carpenter was worse... lol

To be honest both had potential at first. Felix tried to bulk up and lost what made him special. Bobby came on strong towards the end of his rookie season then went through a scheme change and stuff went down hill.

 

[Dundalis]

IMO, Lynch will be the get if the top three QBs in a few years. He's the least NFL-ready right now, but his physical tools and intelligence give him the highest ceiling. And since we (hopefully) won't be counting on him for a couple or three years, give me the guy who'll be the best in a couple or three years. Who really cares if Goff's the most NFL-ready right now. If Romo can stay healthy, being NFL-ready now is a non-factor.

I like the thought of trading back with the Rams for both of their 2nds (#43 & 45), and possibly their 1st in 2017. That seems rich for them, but if either Wentz or Goff is there, I bet they'd overpay. Take someone like Shaq Lawson or Sheldon Rankins with #15. Then package - 4th and one of those 2nds (#34, 43, or 45) to move back up to the late 1st and take Lynch. Or maybe just take Lynch at 15. In any event, I want Lynch in the 1st just so we get that 5th-year option.

If Romo stays healthy shouldn't really be used in the decision making process. You don't plan for best case scenario, you plan for worst. And Romo is old and has built a history of not being able to stay healthy now.

Goff has a relative consensus in scouting reports as having the best pocket presence, accuracy and intelligence of all three of the top QB prospects (some would put Wentz on par intelligence wise). For me, those three things are more important than things like size, hand span, athleticism etc. He also proved to clearly have an NFL calibre arm around about on par with Wentz and Lynch. He really does have some Romo like qualities of making guys miss from seemingly outside LOS and still delivering on passes. I like this youtubers prospect breakdowns.





For anyone that can be bothered watching some much longer vids, some film room breakdowns of Goff, Wentz and Lynch.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Because a rookie is going to come in and light the world on fire?

In this mediocre class of throwers?

its an even more mediocre class of pass rushers, and Ramsey would be a waste because Dallas is to CBs what Cleveland is to QBs.

 

[xvendettax914]

I think what this means is to trust in their first round pick regardless direction. After that however, there is certainly opportunity for improvement.

 

[DeaconMoss]

To be fair... I'd say Bobby Carpenter was worse... lol

Ohio State All Decade team, 4th rated LBer in his class. 4.65 40. Runs well, and can cover, looks like an outstanding OLB candidate in a 3-4. 21 ranked prospect drafted 18. Not a reach at all at a position of need at the time.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/historical/407919

Sometimes things just dont work out. Manny Lawson was the pick. But Parcells loved his daddy, so we got Barbie.

 

[rpntex]

If Romo stays healthy shouldn't really be used in the decision making process. You don't plan for best case scenario, you plan for worst. And Romo is old and has built a history of not being able to stay healthy now.

Goff has a relative consensus in scouting reports as having the best pocket presence, accuracy and intelligence of all three of the top QB prospects (some would put Wentz on par intelligence wise). For me, those three things are more important than things like size, hand span, athleticism etc. He also proved to clearly have an NFL calibre arm around about on par with Wentz and Lynch. He really does have some Romo like qualities of making guys miss from seemingly outside LOS and still delivering on passes. I like this youtubers prospect breakdowns.





For anyone that can be bothered watching some much longer vids, some film room breakdowns of Goff, Wentz and Lynch.

I'm broken down all the film, only I watch everything on www.draftbreakdown.com. It's an excellent site – it shows full games, including every play the QB is involved in. And don't give me wrong… I like Goff, and think he's going to be a fine NFL QB. And as I said, he is the closest to "NFL ready" of any of the top three quarterbacks in this draft.

That being said, being the "closest to NFL ready" does not mean he is NFL ready right now. If Tony Romo goes down with an injury, Goff is not going to help the Cowboys this year. Oh, I think he can win so I'm games, but if Romo goes down, the Cowboys aren't going anywhere. By the time Goff is fully NFL ready, I believe Lynch will have passed him by. I'm not alone in this assessment, either. The pundits and scouts are pretty much split three ways as to who the better of the three quarterbacks will end up being over the course of their careers.

 

[KJJ]

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None of those first round draft picks were QBs.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Because a rookie is going to come in and light the world on fire?

In this mediocre class of throwers?

Cant do any worse than those 3 vets we had last year..............1-11 ring a bell?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Cant do any worse than those 3 vets we had last year..............1-11 ring a bell?

So we blow the 4th pick on a mediocre prospect for the draft positioning so that if Tony goes down we win an extra game or two... fail to contend... And get a worse pick?

Where do I sign up?

 

[sideon]

It seems the scouts make their paychecks based on their first and second round picks, after that its a toss up. I cant remember the last time we hit on a late round pick.

Hitchens was a smart pick up.

 

[Myboys]

Very true as to the need for a QB in round 1. As true as the stubble on ol' Merle Haggard's face.
Say, mates, is Merle a usual name for a man?

Sadly, Merle Haggard passed on this week. What loss to country music. Seems like all the greats are leaving us.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Wentz, Tunsil, Ramsey, Trade down, Buckner

Thats the board

Looking more like Ramsey, Goff or Trade Down to me.

 

[andersbears]

i`m in chicago for this year on exchange program and it`s very similar to hear from bear fan

they hate their qb but don`t know what to do

i don`t think romo is bad but to add another qb is good for future

i like wentz )))))))))

 

[Arkyvarminter]

So we blow the 4th pick on a mediocre prospect for the draft positioning so that if Tony goes down we win an extra game or two... fail to contend... And get a worse pick?

Where do I sign up?

So you want to wait and draft a QB that is guaranteed to come in the NFL and play like Rodgers or Brady? How does that work? Who is the clairvoyant individual who is going to offer his services to us? You draft a QB for the FUTURE and its never guaranteed. Your argument is don't draft a QB because he won't win a lot of games his First season? That rarely happens...you draft one so you can win in the future. If your looking for a rookie to come in and contend for a Super bowl, good luck with that..........

 

[Dundalis]

I'm broken down all the film, only I watch everything on www.draftbreakdown.com. It's an excellent site – it shows full games, including every play the QB is involved in. And don't give me wrong… I like Goff, and think he's going to be a fine NFL QB. And as I said, he is the closest to "NFL ready" of any of the top three quarterbacks in this draft.

That being said, being the "closest to NFL ready" does not mean he is NFL ready right now. If Tony Romo goes down with an injury, Goff is not going to help the Cowboys this year. Oh, I think he can win so I'm games, but if Romo goes down, the Cowboys aren't going anywhere. By the time Goff is fully NFL ready, I believe Lynch will have passed him by. I'm not alone in this assessment, either. The pundits and scouts are pretty much split three ways as to who the better of the three quarterbacks will end up being over the course of their careers.

The youtube podcaster who created the videos I posted (Matt Waldman) gets featured on draftbreakdown.com. He probably does the most in depth prospect film breakdowns freely available around, he really breaks plays down with pretty insightful analysis.

What you are saying about Lynch seems to assume Goff doesn't have as much room for improvement. He has significant room for improvement and has a lot of physical projection. Being the most NFL ready doesn't automatically assume less projection or ceiling. Lynch for me is only rated for his size, arm and his passable athleticism at 6'7. I don't particularly see the high level intelligence there at all. Any QB taken is about the future, not right now, but the only question that should be asked in regards to Goff's ability to help straight away is whether it is possible he could be better than our current backup. It's a good possibility.

I don't like any of the non QB prospects rated at the top of this draft, I've even gone off Ramsey. Give me a potential future franchise, or even well above avg QB at 4, over some athletic utility guys in Ramsey and Jack with confusion about what their best position is and health concerns in the latter. Get those positions in later rounds. Guys at the top of the draft shouldn't have those question marks when you are looking at the positions those two play. They should have a clear position and have elite potential there, none of this jack of many trades stuff. The only other guy that looks odds on to be elite at a valuable position is Tunsil, and we don't need him.

Goff or Wentz or trade down.

 

[jnday]

So you want to wait and draft a QB that is guaranteed to come in the NFL and play like Rodgers or Brady? How does that work? Who is the clairvoyant individual who is going to offer his services to us? You draft a QB for the FUTURE and its never guaranteed. Your argument is don't draft a QB because he won't win a lot of games his First season? That rarely happens...you draft one so you can win in the future. If your looking for a rookie to come in and contend for a Super bowl, good luck with that..........

Good post. Many good QB prospects are ruined by rushing them to start. It is hard for any rookie to have much of an impact and it even harder for a rookie to even be decent at QB considering that it is the most complicated position to play.

 

[Beast_from_East]

So we blow the 4th pick on a mediocre prospect for the draft positioning so that if Tony goes down we win an extra game or two... fail to contend... And get a worse pick?

Where do I sign up?

If you already know who is going to be a mediocre QB and who is not, why are you not making millions as an NFL consultant?

teams would pay you a fortune if you would look into your crystal ball and tell them which QBs are going to be good and which ones are going to be mediocre since you have it all worked out

Let me guess, you have a Dolarian in your garage with a flux capacitor and you jump 5 years into the future to see who pans and who doesn't?