If this is true, maybe we should go QB in the first

[Frosty]

I think getting QB will open the window of opportunity for this franchise for several years. I think Jerry often looks to short term and that has not panned out. I want to see the Cowboys and Romo win a championship as much as anyone but I don't want to sacrifice the future for any individual player. Take the top QB at 4 and load up on defense through out the remainder of the draft.

Bingo, we all want Romo to get his championship. But, I would love to see what young QB with a strong arm could do in this offense. I remember how fun it was to watch a young Tony Romo coming off the bench. The future was bright then, Love to see the Cowboys draft a QB at 4.

It was horrible watching this team struggle to find a QB after Aikman.

 

[pjtoadie]

If you already know who is going to be a mediocre QB and who is not, why are you not making millions as an NFL consultant?

teams would pay you a fortune if you would look into your crystal ball and tell them which QBs are going to be good and which ones are going to be mediocre since you have it all worked out

Let me guess, you have a Dolarian in your garage with a flux capacitor and you jump 5 years into the future to see who pans and who doesn't?

Ok this might be the best post I've seen in a long time...nicely done

 

[Vero_F250]

I hope someone trades up and both QBs are gone before our pick. This way not taking one of them won't be the Cowboys fault.

 

[Dundalis]

I want to know what people who aren't interested in getting a QB at 4 expect to happen once Romo's time is done. That we will hit on some lower round pick? The time spent on the player we choose to have develop behind Romo in the years before he's gone we won't get back. If they are a dud, that's it. It will be a QB factory of guys coming in and out, and prospects we take won't have the luxury of getting to sit and learn, which I have no doubt gives young QB's significantly better chances of reaching their potential. And forget about getting a good QB by other means. So many teams are gonna be looking for a QB over the next few years.

If you think all the QB's in the draft suck, then you don't take one. I don't buy that Goff and Wentz are ranked top 10 purely due to it being a weak draft and would be 2nd/3rd rounders in other drafts. They both have elite potential, but like pretty much all QB prospects will have a much better chance of succeeding by sitting a couple years. IMO plenty of guys that had success playing straight away could have been even better having sat 2/3 years.

 

[ErikWilliamsHeadSlap]

Draft both and solve the entire problem . QB in 1st, RB in 2nd. The Cowboys have done well with their first round picks , but they don't do so well after that.

We need defense 3 of the first 4 picks. We need serious talent infusion there.

 

[Vero_F250]

I want to know what people who aren't interested in getting a QB at 4 expect to happen once Romo's time is done. That we will hit on some lower round pick? The time spent on the player we choose to have develop behind Romo in the years before he's gone we won't get back. If they are a dud, that's it. It will be a QB factory of guys coming in and out, and prospects we take won't have the luxury of getting to sit and learn, which I have no doubt gives young QB's significantly better chances of reaching their potential. And forget about getting a good QB by other means. So many teams are gonna be looking for a QB over the next few years.

If you think all the QB's in the draft suck, then you don't take one. I don't buy that Goff and Wentz are ranked top 10 purely due to it being a weak draft and would be 2nd/3rd rounders in other drafts. They both have elite potential, but like pretty much all QB prospects will have a much better chance of succeeding by sitting a couple years. IMO plenty of guys that had success playing straight away could have been even better having sat 2/3 years.

This team has so many needs I hope both QBs are gone so I can't be mad at Jerry for passing on one of them.

 

[visionary]

Wentz, Tunsil, Ramsey, Trade down, Buckner

Thats the board

Wentz
Goff
Trade down
Seppuku

That is the first round draft board

I volunteer my services to help jerry with the 4th option

 

[LittleD]

I want to know what people who aren't interested in getting a QB at 4 expect to happen once Romo's time is done. That we will hit on some lower round pick? The time spent on the player we choose to have develop behind Romo in the years before he's gone we won't get back. If they are a dud, that's it. It will be a QB factory of guys coming in and out, and prospects we take won't have the luxury of getting to sit and learn, which I have no doubt gives young QB's significantly better chances of reaching their potential. And forget about getting a good QB by other means. So many teams are gonna be looking for a QB over the next few years.

If you think all the QB's in the draft suck, then you don't take one. I don't buy that Goff and Wentz are ranked top 10 purely due to it being a weak draft and would be 2nd/3rd rounders in other drafts. They both have elite potential, but like pretty much all QB prospects will have a much better chance of succeeding by sitting a couple years. IMO plenty of guys that had success playing straight away could have been even better having sat 2/3 years.

You actually miss the tealeaves of the plan for the Cowboys that is being worked as we speak on the keyboards. Jerry has invested lots of money and draft capital
in Romo, OL, Dez, Witten so that they have a shot over the next 2-3 years to win another SB. Jerry is not looking long term because at the end of the 3 years he
will have to dump salaries, enter cap hell, have a rebuilding year and hopefully draft in the top 5 again. It will be in that time that the Cowboys will hopefully draft
their next franchise QB. They are not likely to invest a #4 on a QB who makes 5-7mil per year holding a clipboard. More likely that they draft a backup QB in
the 3-5th round that might learn to win a game or two if Romo gets hurt again.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Wentz, Tunsil, Ramsey, Trade down, Buckner

Thats the board

I think you may be right.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

If you already know who is going to be a mediocre QB and who is not, why are you not making millions as an NFL consultant?

teams would pay you a fortune if you would look into your crystal ball and tell them which QBs are going to be good and which ones are going to be mediocre since you have it all worked out

Let me guess, you have a Dolarian in your garage with a flux capacitor and you jump 5 years into the future to see who pans and who doesn't?

I didn't think the obligatory "in my opinion" still needed to be said in 2016 on a message board.

What isn't just "my opinion" is that all these qbs would be below the top qb prospects of the last few years.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

So you want to wait and draft a QB that is guaranteed to come in the NFL and play like Rodgers or Brady? How does that work? Who is the clairvoyant individual who is going to offer his services to us? You draft a QB for the FUTURE and its never guaranteed. Your argument is don't draft a QB because he won't win a lot of games his First season? That rarely happens...you draft one so you can win in the future. If your looking for a rookie to come in and contend for a Super bowl, good luck with that..........

No. I think these qbs are not great prospects and I'm not excited about drafting one of them at 4.

I bet the type of arguments people are making in favor of just drafting a qb.... Have been made on many a Cleveland Browns message boards.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Bingo, we all want Romo to get his championship. But, I would love to see what young QB with a strong arm could do in this offense. I remember how fun it was to watch a young Tony Romo coming off the bench. The future was bright then, Love to see the Cowboys draft a QB at 4.

It was horrible watching this team struggle to find a QB after Aikman.

not everyone want's to get Tony a championship, certainly not Jerry. If that was the goal to this offseason to get the necessary pieces on defense, no matter the cost, then you could say we are all in. Jerry looks at Denver winning with an old Manning and thinks Tony can do the same. But he didn't give Tony the defense that Denver gave Manning to win the SB. So no this team is not in an all in, win now mode. That's why taking a QB and building for the future makes a lot of sense.

 

[Dundalis]

You actually miss the tealeaves of the plan for the Cowboys that is being worked as we speak on the keyboards. Jerry has invested lots of money and draft capital
in Romo, OL, Dez, Witten so that they have a shot over the next 2-3 years to win another SB. Jerry is not looking long term because at the end of the 3 years he
will have to dump salaries, enter cap hell, have a rebuilding year and hopefully draft in the top 5 again. It will be in that time that the Cowboys will hopefully draft
their next franchise QB. They are not likely to invest a #4 on a QB who makes 5-7mil per year holding a clipboard. More likely that they draft a backup QB in
the 3-5th round that might learn to win a game or two if Romo gets hurt again.

Romo likely isn't gonna be healthy enough to get us to the superbowl. In fact even if the guy manages to stay on the field, I expect a natural decline in his play over the next 2-3 years due to a combination of age and the injuries catching up with him. Investing money in the OL and Dez is for longer than 2-3 years, and will be around to support the next young QB post Romo. Unless Jerry expects to be dead in 2-3 years he shouldn't be ignoring long term regardless of what he says in the media.

Drafting a projected backup QB in the 3-5th round to win a game or two in Romo's absence is a stupid waste of a pick, when as has been mentioned, there are a lot of needs for this team. Not to mention a projected backup in the lower rounds is probably going to need 2-3 years to reach his NFL backup ceiling.

No. I think these qbs are not great prospects and I'm not excited about drafting one of them at 4.

I bet the type of arguments people are making in favor of just drafting a qb.... Have been made on many a Cleveland Browns message boards.

If we genuinely don't like the QB's in this draft, then I'd be fine trying to fleece a team by moving down. I don't particularly like any of the players available in our areas of need in this draft at pick 4.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

We need defense 3 of the first 4 picks. We need serious talent infusion there.

Let's look at this:

Claiborne, top 10 pick
Carr, top price FA agent signing
Scandrick, your best CB fith round pick
Jones, 1st round pick
Church, UDFA needs replacement
Lee, 2nd round pick
McClain, top 10 pick
Lawernce, 2nd round pick
Crawford, 3rd round, high contract guy
Thornton, prize FA signing this off season
Gregory, top 5 talent take in the 2nd round last year

There is talent on defense, enough to have a pretty decent defense. Has the coaching put them in postion to excel? Well that's debatable. I do not think that this defense is as bad as many make it out to be. I think that they're not put in postion to win, to to play to the palyers strengths, but there is lots of talent.

 

[visionary]

I didn't think the obligatory "in my opinion" still needed to be said in 2016 on a message board.

What isn't just "my opinion" is that all these qbs would be below the top qb prospects of the last few years.

It us just your opinion and a laughable one at that

Plenty of reputable evaluators have praised Wentz and Goff as having the talent to be franchise QBs

 

[BigStar]

You actually miss the tealeaves of the plan for the Cowboys that is being worked as we speak on the keyboards. Jerry has invested lots of money and draft capital
in Romo, OL, Dez, Witten so that they have a shot over the next 2-3 years to win another SB. Jerry is not looking long term because at the end of the 3 years he
will have to dump salaries, enter cap hell, have a rebuilding year and hopefully draft in the top 5 again. It will be in that time that the Cowboys will hopefully draft
their next franchise QB. They are not likely to invest a #4 on a QB who makes 5-7mil per year holding a clipboard. More likely that they draft a backup QB in
the 3-5th round that might learn to win a game or two if Romo gets hurt again.

SJ is looking long term and think he might be convincing papa of the same thing There will be no cap hell if we resign Fred this year and Martin the following. Collins might be difficult but that is about it in terms of keeping that core together (draft is available here too). During that time, picks can be used on a better pass blocking RT over Free as well.

The Cap will continue to rise as stipulated in the NFLPA agreement. Romo's retirement wouldn't put us in the "cap hell" you are speaking of; don't compare this to Troy bc the cap and 1st RD QBs contracts mirror good back up QBs in the league today. The progressing increase to the salary cap will allow Dez/Tyron/Frederick to be restructured so the money will be there as we have up to 5 years to worry about resigning our new 1st RD QB.

 

[BigStar]

No. I think these qbs are not great prospects and I'm not excited about drafting one of them at 4.

I bet the type of arguments people are making in favor of just drafting a qb.... Have been made on many a Cleveland Browns message boards.

Pretty weak

 

[Frosty]

You actually miss the tealeaves of the plan for the Cowboys that is being worked as we speak on the keyboards. Jerry has invested lots of money and draft capital
in Romo, OL, Dez, Witten so that they have a shot over the next 2-3 years to win another SB. Jerry is not looking long term because at the end of the 3 years he
will have to dump salaries, enter cap hell, have a rebuilding year and hopefully draft in the top 5 again. It will be in that time that the Cowboys will hopefully draft
their next franchise QB. They are not likely to invest a #4 on a QB who makes 5-7mil per year holding a clipboard. More likely that they draft a backup QB in
the 3-5th round that might learn to win a game or two if Romo gets hurt again.

Don't Forget, Jerry is like 72yrs old and wants to win anther Championship before he passes away or Stephen has complete control and does things his way.....Neither Romo or Jerry Jones has time on their side... A 2-3yr window is on the high side both.

 

[LittleD]

SJ is looking long term and think he might be convincing papa of the same thing There will be no cap hell if we resign Fred this year and Martin the following. Collins might be difficult but that is about it in terms of keeping that core together (draft is available here too). During that time, picks can be used on a better pass blocking RT over Free as well.

The Cap will continue to rise as stipulated in the NFLPA agreement. Romo's retirement wouldn't put us in the "cap hell" you are speaking of; don't compare this to Troy bc the cap and 1st RD QBs contracts mirror good back up QBs in the league today. The progressing increase to the salary cap will allow Dez/Tyron/Frederick to be restructured so the money will be there as we have up to 5 years to worry about resigning our new 1st RD QB.

We don't have the cap space right now to sign Fred. He will likely want between 45-50mil to sign a long term deal. We need about 7mil to sign all our draft picks this
year and account for the UDFA's and the top 53 players salaries and injury settlements. Now if they cut or restructure someone, we might be able to lure him.

 

[KJJ]

Don't Forget, Jerry is like 72yrs old and wants to win anther Championship before he passes away or Stephen has complete control and does things his way.....Neither Romo or Jerry Jones has time on their side... A 2-3yr window is on the high side both.

Romo's window is a lot shorter than Jerry's he'll likely still be alive and running the team when Romo is done as a player. If Jerry only has 2-3 years then you must know something we don't.