if TO and glenn both go down with injuries....

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TheCount;2063260 said:
That's exactly the problem.

So what if there was no Randy or Calvin? I'll take a Bowe, James Jones, Anthony Gonzalez, even a Sidney Rice.

It's not always about drafting the next Jerry Rice.
Right, it's not ... but I don't believe these guys would produce more this year than Hurd or Stanbeck. While they're no doubt more talented than Hurd or Stanbeck were coming out of college, our guys have a year in the NFL under their belt already ... and that's huge in the development of a WR.
 

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deerssur;2062968 said:
and it is not out of the realm of possibility considering their ages, we are screwed. does anyone have any faith that crayton, hurd, or austin can do anything to take up the slack? i dont. jerry had a very good draft, but it would have been in our best interest to go after a guy like dj hall or bowman considering they have as good or better talent in my opinion than the other undrafted free agent wr's that litter our roster. if character is such an issue we wouldnt have signed pac man or tank. dj hall is better than any of our other udfa wr's. i watched hall for 4 yrs at alabama and he ate people up. he was suspended only ONE time not 4 or 5, and then only for one half. he had a shoulder injury in the bowl game. he has dynamic talent, he just didnt jell with saban. we made a mistake not going after him. he is alabama's all time leader in catches, yards, and td's. ask around the sec and see how they felt about facing him. the gints got a steal. and no, this is not a homer thread bc i went to bama, i just think he would have been able to unseat crayton as the three guy. if crayton catches that 3rd down pass against the gints, wide open, we dont lose.:banghead: :confused: :mad:

dude - take away 2 starters from ANY position and the team is likely screwed.

lose romo and barber. any confidence we'll be ok?

like i said, remove the teams #1 and #2 WR from any team and you've got a problem. but if you need to make up crap to feel bad about, go ahead. it's all the rage.
 

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deerssur;2062987 said:
i shoulda known you guys would respond that way, knuckleheads. tear down your fellow cowboys fans for their opinions. i expect that from you. romo is no manning btw and cant make any reciever look good. thx for an intelligent response. oh and marvin and reggie arent 34 and 33 respectively genious. take everthing to the extreme morons. its only conjecture but worth thinking about. i love our team but we dont have the talent or coaching indy does to overcome those obstacles. "oh, what if the entire team goes down with injury?" why not have an intelligent debate about it instead of being smart *** jerks all of the time

well why don't you pull your head out of the self-rightious puddle you've got it mired in and tell us what you'd do?

if you want an intelligent debate, pick an intelligent topic. if you want stupidity on parade, start one of these topics.
 

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deerssur;2062968 said:
and it is not out of the realm of possibility considering their ages, we are screwed. :banghead: :confused: :mad:

Great. Thanks for the spirited post.

NOW I gotta fire off an email to the football gods and suck up. This may take a ring of fire and my chicken bones after dark.

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are you a baby? why do you need an ignore list? your a grown man, on the NET! why not just look through and ignore it....or don't even look at all? seriously is there someone holding you up with a gun, telling to read every thread?

see what your doing is immature, just strolling through talking about ignore lists...you know what stop talking and do it! Ignore me while your at, you ain't hurting nobody's feelings...ignore everyone on this board who makes annoying posts in your opinion since you cant seem to control your self when clicking into threads

Your baby has an ignore list?
 

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Partly this thing is on the coaches. Particularly in the salary cap era, it is nearly impossible to stock every position with youth and talent. The Cowboys appear to have said, with their actions, that the draft was stronger at RB, CB, even TE (at least where one player was concerned). But they might have been saying something else...

Dallas appears to have more confidence in its young wideouts than it did in Julius Jones, Anthony Fasano, Nate Jones and/or Jacques Reeves. Obviously, part of the deal is that Jones, Jones and Reeves entered free agency, but they were not bank-breakers. The Cowboys could have signed them... certainly most of them.

Dallas maybe was saying, "We like Stanback, Hurd, Austin et al more than we like Reeves and Nate Jones."

That might be a good bet. The coaches seem to like Stanback, especially.

Now it's on the coaches to, um, coach. Coach them up. Look how the Giants coached up the RB position last year. Look how the Pats have covered in the past for losses in the secondary. Look how the Colts brought a rookie left tackle up to speed.

Dallas is in a lot of trouble if it loses TO, as any team likely would be. But it can't suck its collective thumb and go home. Games still must be played. It's on the coaches to get these young guys ready to do at least a credible job.

I have no disagreement with drafting players other than at the wideout position if there was agreement among parties that the position was thin. Would I have felt better if Dallas had traded up to get Limas Sweed? On paper, I probably would. But if Bennett were to become another Antonio Gates, and if Sweed were to become another Sinorice Moss, the team would be the poorer for it.

Draft the best talent possible. Coach up as much as possible the lesser talent. Pray that the injury gods are kind. That's about it, I think.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2062971 said:
Ir Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne both go down with injuries....

its not as if every team isnt in teh same boat.

No comparison.

TO will miss at least three games this year, he always does.

Glenn may never take the football field again, but if he does, he will almost certainly miss some time due to injuries, he does it every year.

So, who do we go to? Witten will be doubled.

You can't even compare the situations. Harrison and Wayne are younger and less injury prone as a whole.
 

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Wrangler87;2063502 said:
No comparison.

TO will miss at least three games this year, he always does.

Glenn may never take the football field again, but if he does, he will almost certainly miss some time due to injuries, he does it every year.

So, who do we go to? Witten will be doubled.

You can't even compare the situations. Harrison and Wayne are younger and less injury prone as a whole.

is this the marvin harrison that missed most of last year? kinda look silly when you say a person who missed most of the year due to injuries is less injury prone than someone who missed most of last year?
 

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Anyone here not believe that Jerry's goal is Roy Williams next year in FA. I am confident of 2 things. That Jerry will pay Roy Williams if he becomes available and he will draft a top WR in next years draft.
 

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Nexx;2062972 said:
but wait there is more... what if barber, jones and choice all go down at the same time along with romo, whitten and the entire offensive line?
:lmao: :lmao2: :bow:
 

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Deerssur, it's a relivant question that you ask IMO. I mean, part of what you see as response if probably related to the fact that no Cowboy Fan wants to consider that. It's off season and we are just finished up with the Draft. Fans are typically very positive right now and that's part of the fun. You can be positive now because all is golden. However, I do think you have a point. If TO goes down, then we are screwed. I mean, Glenn or no Glenn, it doesn't matter. Glenn, post injury, was a heck of a WR IMO but he clearly could not do it all by himself. TO is a guy who can get it done but he does miss games and he is getting older. I think it is resonable to assume that he could miss some games. I honestly don't know if Glenn will be back in any condition to play or not. I know that his knee is a degenerative issue. I know that doctors told him that it would likely worsen as time went on without surgery. I know that the chances of him ever playing after the surgery are not real good. What does that all mean? I think it means that we will be very lucky indeed if he can play a season, much less play at a high level. Of cousre, that's just my opinion. Regardless, if we lose TO, we are screwed IMO.
 

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Glenn wont matter, if TO goes down we are in trouble...only TO. We should have a strong running game to help out, but if we lose TO we will have a problem.
 

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Its not unreasonable to suggest Terry Glenn and TO could suffer a major injury this year given their age and Glenn's health.

It is unreasonable to think two rookie undrafted free agents like DJ Hall or Adarius Bowman were going to step in and save the day.
 

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Wrangler87;2063502 said:
No comparison.

TO will miss at least three games this year, he always does.

Glenn may never take the football field again, but if he does, he will almost certainly miss some time due to injuries, he does it every year.

So, who do we go to? Witten will be doubled.

You can't even compare the situations. Harrison and Wayne are younger and less injury prone as a whole.

o.0 He's missed like 9 (regular season) games his entire career except when he was benched (Philly for 9 and one game by the 9ers I believe) He gets injured, but typically he doesn't miss too much time because of it.
 

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deerssur;2062968 said:
and it is not out of the realm of possibility considering their ages, we are screwed. does anyone have any faith that crayton, hurd, or austin can do anything to take up the slack? i dont. jerry had a very good draft, but it would have been in our best interest to go after a guy like dj hall or bowman considering they have as good or better talent in my opinion than the other undrafted free agent wr's that litter our roster. if character is such an issue we wouldnt have signed pac man or tank. dj hall is better than any of our other udfa wr's. i watched hall for 4 yrs at alabama and he ate people up. he was suspended only ONE time not 4 or 5, and then only for one half. he had a shoulder injury in the bowl game. he has dynamic talent, he just didnt jell with saban. we made a mistake not going after him. he is alabama's all time leader in catches, yards, and td's. ask around the sec and see how they felt about facing him. the gints got a steal. and no, this is not a homer thread bc i went to bama, i just think he would have been able to unseat crayton as the three guy. if crayton catches that 3rd down pass against the gints, wide open, we dont lose.:banghead: :confused: :mad:

I can see where you were trying to go with this thread. But realistically no team has a back up that is equal to the talent of their starter. With the salary cap and free agency there is no way to stockpile talent anymore.


Do you think that DJ Hall comes in and if TO or Glenn go down that Hall steps right in and the offense does not miss a beat?? Try to be real for a second. Calvin Johnson who some experts say was a can't is WR last year in the draft struggled, so did Braylon Edwards....Jerry was not going to trust a rookie undrafted player to fill in for TO or even Crayton. His thinking was that there was really no WR in the draft this year that was going to take playing time away from Hurd, Austin or Crayton, so he didn't feel the need to take one. Even the experts say that this years WR class was not that strong. Bowman? He was busted for weed and has character issues, I know your argument with Pacman, but look Jerry still drafted 2 db's even though we had pacman, he was covering his bases.

I don't want TO hurt either, but that is the way the NFL is these days, you just can't throw dollars at a position anymore and have pro bowlers waiting in the wings just in case your starter goes down.....every team is in the same boat we are if their starter goes down..
 

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Nothing wrong with asking about our two old WRs getting hurt.

The problem comes when you claim that your pet undrafted FA would've been the one to save the franchise. :cool:
 

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deerssur;2062987 said:
i shoulda known you guys would respond that way, knuckleheads. tear down your fellow cowboys fans for their opinions. i expect that from you. romo is no manning btw and cant make any reciever look good. thx for an intelligent response. oh and marvin and reggie arent 34 and 33 respectively genious. take everthing to the extreme morons. its only conjecture but worth thinking about. i love our team but we dont have the talent or coaching indy does to overcome those obstacles. "oh, what if the entire team goes down with injury?" why not have an intelligent debate about it instead of being smart *** jerks all of the time

Marvin Harrison is 35 and will be 36 in August.

Reggie Wayne is 29 and will be 30 in November.

Those two guys make a good comparison to the hypothetical situation you brought up. If they both went down with Injuries, then the Colts would struggle on offense. We kind of saw that happen this past season in Indy.

I agree that none of the drafted receivers were really going to be able to contribute to Dallas right away if the Cowboys had drafted one. That is pretty typical of any rookie receiver. They usually dont' come out and do well early.

I am not sure if any of those receivers would have developed into top notch receivers in the NFL a few years down the line. I just was not that impressed with this years crop.

I don't I think Crayton, Hurd and Austin will be anything special, either. Crayton, although not special is good in his role as the #3 receiver, which is what he has done well at the past two years. Of course one of the duties of any #3 guy is filling in for either of the starters when injured and Crayton did as good a job as to be expected out of any #3 guy in the league that has to step up into that role.

Dallas has concerns at the wide receiver position. Long term concerns definitely. Short term is still up in the air for this season. The hypothetical of both starters getting hurt would be a concern for every team. It being TO and Glenn does not make that situation unique to Dallas. And for the record, I am not counting on Glenn at all. If he contributes this season, then it is just a bonus in my opinion.
 
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