If we're trying to get better, why keep the same guys?

[morat1959]

Poor talent evaluation is one of the many flaws of our GM.

This is right up there at the top of the list as to why this organization has failed for many years.

 

[Creeper]

The Dallas Cowboys - including current free agents - have as a team collectively won 2 wild card playoff games in the last 7 seasons. Yes they have made the playoffs 4 of those 7 years, but is this a mix of players we just can’t afford to lose? Sure some of them are worth keeping, but don’t we need some new blood, new leadership, a new drive to take it to the next level?

• Serious Question: If we are trying to get better as a team, be more competitive in the playoffs, and transform this soft culture into a tough playoff tested team, why are we so committed as an organization to keeping the same guys?
• It would be understandable if we had won more playoff games with these guys. We want to “run it back” with the same guys as if all we need is another chance?

I would like to see some cap space dedicated to some new players who have been on teams that have won lots of playoff games.

I’m not saying it has to be a complete roster turnover, but can we just not continue with the “we like our guys” mantra that has dealt us two wild card wins in 7 years? If we are going to get some valuable cap space, I would like to see some new blood brought in.

Otherwise are we not just doing the same things and expecting different results?

I think a lot of Cowboys fans agree with you, that is, until we start talking about a specific player. We are a weird group of fans. We want to cut Dak, trade Micah, and trade Diggs, but even the thought of not signing Osa is like a personal attack.

I like our players too, but that would not stop me from getting better players to replace them if I was GM. We like to think Jimmy Johnson was the best coach we've had since Landry, but that was Jimmy's philosophy too. Keep improving at whatever position if the opportunity presents itself.

 

[Ranching]

Even the the best coach can’t make chicken salad out of chicken crap. When I first got into the gig many years ago, a wise old coach told me after we’d been soundly beaten by a team with superior talent, son…you’ve got to have the horses to run the races.

He's right, unfortunately, it's not easy to get top horses...a skilled jockey can really help
MM was to heavy for our horses, hopefully BS can fill the stirrups.

 

[kskboys]

Aren't you the guy that claimed they didn't have any cap space?

Absolutely not. There is limited cap space as there is w/ all teams. When you start handing out huge contracts, you're going to limit yourself as to who else you can bring in. Basic math, dude.

 

[kskboys]

This defense with the current cap and resigning to the strong player level, will still be growing and improving.

Sign a solid outside DT, and projected starters from this past season. Strength can be improved and in new staff leadership. There is some strong talent in this draft. Day 2 and Day 3 has an improving talent draft pool and does make a difference when well scouted and matched with this staff and their influence on team awareness and interactions.

After the players arrive, it then starts for the fan to watch development.

In the off season, one can just toss that 30 year old calendar the hell away.

We don't need solid at DT, we need a disruptor.

 

[CWR]

Its called hanging around the rim Bob.

 

[Bobhaze]

It’s called hanging around the rim Bob.

Rim shot! Hey-oh.

 

[Jarntt]

"If we're trying to get better, why keep the same guys?"​

the title says it all. Easiest place to start: sign a good safety and pay for him by cutting one our current guys (Wilson cut post 6/1 saves $7M and Hooker almost $6M). Heck, cut them both and also play whichever kid you like the best or draft one or just sign two.

 

[kskboys]

Osa is a solid player. They urgently needed sign him and they did. They will have at least a dozen new players on this roster. They intentionally raised the cap space for this year to build a better team. You are getting the new blood not only in players, but in the coaching staff as well.

Yes, Crawford...I mean Osa is absolutely instrumental.......

 

[zrinkill]

They have the money.

They always had the money ...... and they keep it.

 

[kskboys]

First, getting better is realitive. like how some guys use stats, our Pro BOWL DT lost a step because he had 1 less sack.

Are we going to get better? whats the result? 1 win? 1 and done?

The question we are waiting on is what does JJ want to do this season. We wont know that until the draft.

Can you keep your whole team and still get better? Some people thnk 1 player can lift a whole team to a SB win.

What other myths do we use? Chemistry? home town discount?

lets see what JJ does in the draft, that will tell us what we are doing.

1 player absolutely can. Don't get me wrong, the pieces must be in place, but several times one player has come in and made the difference. Just recently, Brady in Tampa, Stafford in LARams, Ogunjobi in Cincy(super bowl appearance), Barkley in Philly, PManning in DEN. Justin Smith came into SF as a FA back in 2008 and it led to super bowl contention and an appearance, and that w/ alarmingly bad Kapernick.

 

[rambo2]

Yes, Crawford...I mean Osa is absolutely instrumental.......

Osa was a very important move that has gotten positive feedback.

 

[kskboys]

Osa was a very important move that has gotten positive feedback.

Was he? To be seen. Maybe he's taken that next step and became better against the run last season? Hard to say w/ horrific Mazi beside him.

 

[kskboys]

They always had the money ...... and they keep it.

They can't. NFL would fine them heavily if they don't meet the minimum on the salary cap.

They spend it unwisely, but they cannot keep it.

 

[rambo2]

Ok Jerry. I’ll believe it when i see it 30 years of incompetence tells me it won’t change

Just look at what they are doing.

 

[kskboys]

Just look at what they are doing.

Glad you asked. Not very much.

 

[zrinkill]

They can't. NFL would fine them heavily if they don't meet the minimum on the salary cap.

They spend it unwisely, but they cannot keep it.

I meant they keep it internal ...... like giving Gallup and Jaylon huge contacts they did not deserve, just to make a point to other players at the time.

 

[rambo2]

Was he? To be seen. Maybe he's taken that next step and became better against the run last season? Hard to say w/ horrific Mazi beside him.

6.25 million cap hit for a solid healthy player in his prime vs. having absolutely nothing at the position going into free agency. 2 more dtackles on the way vs. needing 3.

 

[rambo2]

Glad you asked. Not very much.

Lol, like getting the cap space and getting deals done ahead of free agency isn't much.

 

[zrinkill]

It is gonna be so funny ........