I'm not one to complain about play calling... BUT...

I think Garrett had enough trust in Tony not to make a bad decision on that play.He should of done anything but throw the ball up in that situation,but he did anyway.When they play Carolina I expect Romo to be reigned in abit to protect him from himself.I hope he turns it around but i'm not going to "eat the cheese" until I see 5 or 6 games without a boneheaded decision.

Craig
 
landryscorner;2965111 said:
Garrett never never learns, in the 3rd quarter he went for 3 PASS PLAYS IN A ROW!! for a 3 and out ....just plain ridiculous...I wonder what JJ was thinking when he saw the Cowboys throw fo zero hards on 3 plays in a row, just pathetic playcalling...pathetic..

oh GOD!!!! 3 passes in a row!!!! I bet no team in the history of football has ever thrown 3 passes in a row!!!! Its awful!!!!!

:rolleyes:
 
dbair1967;2965227 said:
oh GOD!!!! 3 passes in a row!!!! I bet no team in the history of football has ever thrown 3 passes in a row!!!! Its awful!!!!!

:rolleyes:

It is pretty awful when the opponent has not shown that they can stop your running game, and your qb ends up 13 for 29.
 
jay cee;2965270 said:
It is pretty awful when the opponent has not shown that they can stop your running game, and your qb ends up 13 for 29.

if we had passed 29 times and run 10 times, you'd have a valid point

but it was basically 50/50, as it was in the first game
 
Juke99;2965207 said:
I think he gets "cute" I really do. I think he outthinks himself.

The kill shot that I'm talking about isn't points..it's what you have cited here...physically dominating a team...especially one like the Giants who aren't accustomed to that. It was a chance to make a statement..."we can beat you at your own game"

Some people just have a sense of when the other guy is on the ropes, be it in sports, business, etc...

I'm getting the sense that no one on this team or staff has that.

Remember, as you mentioned Emmitt, that he demanded the ball coming out for the second half...and I believe carried 7 out of 8 plays for a demoralizing TD drive.

Someone has to have that kinda understanding of how to put an opponent away.

I don't think a long bomb for a TD kills the Giants as much as another methodical drive for a TD would have...

Someone needs to carve this in a block of granite and drop it on Garrett's desk.
 
jay cee;2965270 said:
It is pretty awful when the opponent has not shown that they can stop your running game, and your qb ends up 13 for 29.


thank you for your response I was thinking the same thing Dbair please if your going to reply at least come up with something that makes more sense.
 
Juke99;2965181 said:
and that was after a long drive during which the Cowboys dominated the Giants on the ground.

Killer instinct is what it's all about. Get the ball back and go to work on pounding on their defense...sooner or later, you impose your will on the other team and the game is over.

But the Cowboys got "cute" again.

It's like a boxing match...ya got the other guy on the ropes, you finish him...you don't get cute or you'll get nailed with a knockout punch yourself.

Garrett should go watch some old fight films of guys who knew how to finish and opponent.

Sugar Ray Leonard may have had that cute look and all but when he smelled blood, he finished with the best of 'em...see Leonard/Hearns I.

That's what this team is missing.

:hammer:

That's what it is all about.

We just scored on them on a long series.....then he wants to come out and go for it all real quick? How about wearing them down? How about getting Time Of Possession on our side?

Instead, it was our defense that was gasping for breathe in the last 2:00 while they methodically marched right down the field...only needing a FG to win it.
 
The Cowboys only had 10 pass attempts in the second half vs. 14 running attempts.

To me that looks like they were emphasising the run.
 
Jimz31;2965367 said:
:hammer:

That's what it is all about.

We just scored on them on a long series.....then he wants to come out and go for it all real quick? How about wearing them down? How about getting Time Of Possession on our side?

Instead, it was our defense that was gasping for breathe in the last 2:00 while they methodically marched right down the field...only needing a FG to win it.

I can see taking a shot. Hey, it's all about scoring points. If Dallas puts a TD in at that point I'm feeling pretty good about the rest of the game.
 
MichaelWinicki;2965388 said:
I can see taking a shot. Hey, it's all about scoring points. If Dallas puts a TD in at that point I'm feeling pretty good about the rest of the game.

Honestly though, wouldn't you have loved to see another drive go methodically down the field and just wear the crap out of them?

They would have been toast before the 3rd. qtr was over.
 
MichaelWinicki;2965388 said:
I can see taking a shot. Hey, it's all about scoring points. If Dallas puts a TD in at that point I'm feeling pretty good about the rest of the game.

It was a very good call. And gutsy. Too bad Romo did the one thing it took to make it look foolish. Most QBs don't make that throw.

But I see the point of ramming it down their throats. Getting passed on is frustrating. Getting gashed like that in the running game is completely demoralizing.

One pass doesn't distract from the game or that drive. A stupid pass does. That is just not on Garrett.

I think the play calling was exceptional.

Again, you cannot win many games when you have a negative four turnover ratio. It's that simple.
 
Jimz31;2965399 said:
Honestly though, wouldn't you have loved to see another drive go methodically down the field and just wear the crap out of them?

They would have been toast before the 3rd. qtr was over.

Absolutely!

I would have loved to have seen that. But, what I would have loved more was seeing a nice 31-20 lead at that point. To me that would have been killer.

The problem wasn't the possibility of going deep. The problem was the pass shouldn't have been thrown based on the coverage.

I'm betting that IF (there we go again! :)) Phillips wasn't playing deep center-field and that pass had been completed we all would have been talking about that playing being the defining moment of that game.

To me it's not as much about the plays, but about the execution. The idea of a long throw didn't suck. The execution did.
 
jobberone;2965408 said:
It was a very good call. And gutsy. Too bad Romo did the one thing it took to make it look foolish. Most QBs don't make that throw.

But I see the point of ramming it down their throats. Getting passed on is frustrating. Getting gashed like that in the running game is completely demoralizing.

One pass doesn't distract from the game or that drive. A stupid pass does. That is just not on Garrett.

I think the play calling was exceptional.

Again, you cannot win many games when you have a negative four turnover ratio. It's that simple.

It was the kind of play that Norv Turner would have called.
 
MichaelWinicki;2965413 said:
It was the kind of play that Norv Turner would have called.

Do you really think that Norv would have called that? I don't remember too many times where he had Aikman going deep right away.....he was all about the run. Probably benefits that he wasn't in the NFL as a QB. Sometimes I still think that JG still thinks as a QB even when the QB is struggling.

Like someone elsee said....being an OC is also about knowing what is working and what isn't....too many times I have seen him throw when a run would have been a better idea.

Since Romo has been the QB, it's been all on his shoulders....how Romo goes, the team goes. I would love to have a balanced play-caller or even just one that recognizes what is working at a given time in a game.....but last week, with Romo throwing behind wide open guys....throwing over their head, etc.....if it was the first qtr. where this was happening I would understand....being all pumped up and all. But we're talking later in the game and Romo threw behind a wide open Witten....who know WHO he was throwing to on that INT that was returned for a TD....was he throwing to RW and just over threw him? Or was he going to the other guy? Watch RW on that pass....RW seemed to drop his hands as if unsure if it was even for him.

I would think that IF Aikman had struggled that he (Turner)would have let Emmitt and the line take over.....Especially if it were a game like last week where the Giants showed that they couldn't handle the run.
 
If Felix Jones gets 12-15 carries in that game, does Dallas win?

I say, YES!

Heck, 10 might have won it.
 
craig71;2965222 said:
I think Garrett had enough trust in Tony not to make a bad decision on that play.He should of done anything but throw the ball up in that situation,but he did anyway.When they play Carolina I expect Romo to be reigned in abit to protect him from himself.I hope he turns it around but i'm not going to "eat the cheese" until I see 5 or 6 games without a boneheaded decision.

Craig

You should post more often.
 
craig71;2965222 said:
I think Garrett had enough trust in Tony not to make a bad decision on that play.He should of done anything but throw the ball up in that situation,but he did anyway.When they play Carolina I expect Romo to be reigned in abit to protect him from himself.I hope he turns it around but i'm not going to "eat the cheese" until I see 5 or 6 games without a boneheaded decision.

Craig


I think you are right, but Jason has been here long enough to know that we have a QB that can sometimes have problems throwing to guys in the same color jerseys. He should know better than to call plays that can bring out the worst side in a very talented player.
 
MichaelWinicki;2965388 said:
I can see taking a shot. Hey, it's all about scoring points. If Dallas puts a TD in at that point I'm feeling pretty good about the rest of the game.

Of course, the problem with that approach is your defense has shown it can stop the Giants. So let's say you score quickly. The Cowboys are up by 11. The Cowboys use little time off the clock. The Giants defense isn't put in a position where it's sucking even more air. Instead, a quick strike gives the ball back to the offense and allows the Giants defense to rest.

It's all about strategy.

You pound the Giants, take time off the clock then jump ahead by 11 points. With less time, the Giants start pressing and, maybe, you get a turnover because they know they have to score, hold the Cowboys, then score again.

Garrett/Romo got too smart for their own bridges. And now the Cowboys are 1-1 instead of 2-0.
 
MichaelWinicki;2965413 said:
It was the kind of play that Norv Turner would have called.

Good call. :)

Yeah, full doses of Emmitt then go for the jugular. Aikman didn't throw the damn ball up for grabs tho.

That was the most disappointing throw I can remember Tony throwing in awhile. I truly thought he had matured.

I was up out of my chair storming down the hall cursing. No, oh no Danny's, no sigh, nothing but 'How in the hell could you throw that ball up like that'. God I was pissed.
 
Cochese;2965500 said:
I think you are right, but Jason has been here long enough to know that we have a QB that can sometimes have problems throwing to guys in the same color jerseys. He should know better than to call plays that can bring out the worst side in a very talented player.


I see what your saying.It will be interesting to see how the rest of the season unfolds.Will Garrett reign in Romo or will he still allow him the latitude to push the ball downfield.If we have a franchise quarterback you should be able to throw the training wheels away the majority of the time.If we don't have a franchise quarterback it will be up to Garrett to scheme or game plan to cover up his shortcomings.Either way you look at it,we will learn what we have this year in both Romo and Garrett.One or both may succeed,only time will tell.Hopefully things will work out for the best,regardless of the outcome my hope is that the Dallas Cowboys benefit to the fullest.

Craig
 

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