I'm sure this is not what Quincy Carter had in mind 8 years ago

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In some respects that year really hurt us. It basically cost us 2004. If we had tanked as we should have, BP would have junked the 4-3 the next season and we would have been in full rebuild mode. On the other hand would we have gotten Demarcus Ware in 2005? So you have to think about all the ramifications.
 

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5Stars;2721882 said:
Not bad...

An ounce of weed costs $140.00 nowdays...so he's good to go for a week or two...

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(i know, you say, how do i know how much it costs?...i really dont...inflation i guess).

$140 a zip? Unless you're buying reggie that would barely get you a quarter in most places.
 

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Man Quincy would of still been starting for us, if he was clean and he was a good qb, but i remember when we released him and i was shocked haha
 

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HoleInTheRoof;2721945 said:
Sort of off topic, but does anyone remember Parcells telling Hambrick that he (BP) would die before he let Hambrick fail?

He told Petiti that, not Hambrick............even Parcells knew Hambrick was a lost cause.
 

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I went to the game and everyone was cheering out "Q" and he looked pretty good throwing the ball out there.
 

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And yet there are people on these boards who actually say if he had been given a chance in Dallas he would have been a good quarterback.

I think back to the raging battles over this guy as people took sides on whether he was trash or a treasure.

Thanks Quincy. I am now 1-1254 on my predictions for this team.
 

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Nav22;2721556 said:
Sadly, that team won more games than our '08 version.

exactly what i was thinking...and he had no big time receiver or running game, and no one dominant on defense to help him out. Too bad he was an idiot. Everyone hates on dude for his play, but in my opinion the cardinals game was the only game i remember that he was the cause of the team losing.
 

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And yet there are people on these boards who actually say if he had been given a chance in Dallas he would have been a good quarterback.

I think back to the raging battles over this guy as people took sides on whether he was trash or a treasure.

Thanks Quincy. I am now 1-1254 on my predictions for this team.
I'm sure you remember my stance over at The Ranch, TwoDeep, so you shouldn't be surprised to see me argue that we don't know what would've become of QC had he never been cut by Dallas. :)

But what I do know is that had he not crapped the bed in 2004, Tony Romo would've been the odd man out. We had just signed Vinny Testaverde to be Quincy's backup and traded a 3rd rounder earlier in the offseason for Drew Henson.

No room for Romo, and it's unlikely that we could've stashed him on the practice squad considering all the interest in him after the 2003 draft.

Thanks Quincy! Your stupidity is indirectly responsible for the hope I feel regarding this team in 2009 and going forward.
Everyone hates on dude for his play, but in my opinion the cardinals game was the only game i remember that he was the cause of the team losing.
I was as big a Quincy fan as there was back in '03, but this isn't true. He had many poor performances that played big roles in losses for us. That doesn't mean he was the sole reason for the losses, but a victory could've been had if we had a stud behind center. Quincy was merely average in his best season, 2003... and you could easily argue that he was below average.
 

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Nav22;2722325 said:
I'm sure you remember my stance over at The Ranch, TwoDeep, so you shouldn't be surprised to see me argue that we don't know what would've become of QC had he never been cut by Dallas. :)

But what I do know is that had he not crapped the bed in 2004, Tony Romo would've been the odd man out. We had just signed Vinny Testaverde to be Quincy's backup and traded a 3rd rounder earlier in the offseason for Drew Henson.

No room for Romo, and it's unlikely that we could've stashed him on the practice squad considering all the interest in him after the 2003 draft.

Thanks Quincy! Your stupidity is indirectly responsible for the hope I feel regarding this team in 2009 and going forward.
Vinny was never going to be the backup. I am 100% sure that Quincy was going to be gone unless he arrived at Camp in 2004 and was lights out. I knew in March that he was going to be gone. I shared that with a few people, but not the forum because of the unreal fanaticism that surrounded Quincy.
 

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Vinny was never going to be the backup. I am 100% sure that Quincy was going to be gone unless he arrived at Camp in 2004 and was lights out.
Interesting take. What do you base this on?

I remember Quincy entering camp as the starter, and I remember Jerry and Bill looking and sounding as though their puppy had died during the PC to announce Q's release.

Why would they have been so glum had they planned on cutting him loose regardless?

Parcells was also asked not too long ago about his biggest disappointment in Dallas... he said it was the way the Quincy Carter situation played out.

Again, why would this be the case had they planned on Q being cut before the '04 season regardless?
 

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We went 10-6 that year because we had the #1 defense in the NFL that season. We won despite QC that year, not because of him.

We won that year because our offense could only score 17 points, but our defense managed to keep everyone else from scoring more than 13 on us.
 

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Nav22;2722333 said:
Interesting take. What do you base this on?
A tip from someone I trust.

I remember Quincy entering camp as the starter, and I remember Jerry and Bill looking and sounding as though their puppy had died during the PC to announce Q's release.
He did enter as the starter, but it was never iron clad. He had his chance to shine or he was gone.

Why would they have been so glum had they planned on cutting him loose regardless?

Parcells was also asked not too long ago about his biggest disappointment in Dallas... he said it was the way the Quincy Carter situation played out.

Again, why would this be the case had they planned on Q being cut before the '04 season regardless?
I'm not a psychologist, so I don't feel qualified to answer. I just know that when you add a potential "QB of the future" (they thought it was Henson, turns out it was Romo) your confidence in the incumbent is not as high as the gist of your questions would lead you to believe. When you also acquire a veteran with a track History with the Head Coach it is an ominous sign.

As I said, I knew in March of that year Quincy was going to be gone unless he blew them away. It was a tip and it turned out to be solid.
 

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Interesting stuff, Hos. Thanks.

And it makes sense now that I think about it. If Quincy didn't look to be a much better player in TC, it's not at all a stretch to think they'd be willing to go with Vinny, Henson, and Romo. Why keep wasting time on a guy who hasn't developed the way you wanted him to entering his 4th year?

Perhaps then the reason they were so upset at having to cut Quincy is that they DID think he had a shot at performing at such a level in camp, before the failed drug test. I remember Jerry raving about the way QC was looking in minicamps, so maybe him and Bill had high hopes.

But of course, Jerry isn't always 100% honest with the media...
 

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He sure as hell wasn't the reason with his 17 tds and 21 ints :laugh2:

It's amazing that team won 5 games with him at QB.
It's amazing that the great Romo has done no more as far as the team goes, than the hated Quincy Carter. Well done Romo, Garrett and Jerry the clown.
 

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Judas;2722478 said:
It's amazing that the great Romo has done no more as far as the team goes, than the hated Quincy Carter. Well done Romo, Garrett and Jerry the clown.

Just so I can get this right. Are you suggesting you'd rather have Quincy?

This is what I mean about this player. Still there are people defending him as if he were anything but a druggie who played on a team that could score so few points other teams didn't bring their A game.

When you look on a carton of Milk Duds, they have removed the Dud and substituted Quincy's face.

Now where are those Randall Williams and Darren Hambrick contingencies?
 

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TwoDeep3;2722485 said:
Just so I can get this right. Are you suggesting you'd rather have Quincy?

This is what I mean about this player. Still there are people defending him as if he were anything but a druggie who played on a team that could score so few points other teams didn't bring their A game.

When you look on a carton of Milk Duds, they have removed the Dud and substituted Quincy's face.

Now where are those Randall Williams and Darren Hambrick contingencies?
Call him what you want. He's done as much as Romo's done, with far less talent, being a drug head and all, I'd be embarrassed if I were Romo.
 
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