Imagine what their fan bases are saying

blueblood70

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Not many franchises had 3 SB winning coaches. Tough to fire guys who don't exist.
There's a reason I have the guy you're talking to on ignore and a lot of others are they still harping on Landry they're counting as landry's firing is firing a Super Bowl winning coach?

I mean do they realize he was at the end of his career he was old and this team needed a new direction so they had to fire him how do you count that when we hired the guy that won more Super Bowls than the next guy?

Maybe I'm missing something here what three guys are you talking about Landry Johnson and possibly Mike McCarthy well it would be nice like you're saying if your argument is not many teams have that in the 1st place there's not enough of a sample size to be comparing..

By the way I'm 100% sick of hearing about Jimmy Johnson being fired it was a curse and it set this team back for decades that's total nonsense anybody who knows Jimmy Johnson knew he wasn't far away from retiring him like bill Parcells and maybe that's the other guy he's talking about and I don't believe we fired him he quit but those guys get bored they get ants in their pants they don't stay around very long you all and anybody who wants to debate this with me all day long and I've said this since I don't know the last 20 years I'm tired of hearing about it how long would Jimmy Johnson had syated if not fired?​
Besides the fact that it was a mutual agreement how long would he possibly have stayed I say he would have maybe stayed until the team got old and dismantled he would not have had the energy or even the passion to build another team and he probably could not have with the free agency changing and the salary cap and all this other stuff he was not gonna do anything he didn't do anything in Miami he was pretty average in Miami he gave up pretty soon too and went on his boat where he was gonna go in the first place...​
So here's my opinion and it's just opinion but I do not believe Jimmy Johnson over those next two seasons with Barry switzer here would have done any more than Barry switzer this was what his team was and by the way it wasn't Barry switzer's fault that Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin and a bunch of everyone got us down 21 nothing does that sound familiar got down big because of mistakes by your players in a big game and we could never really get our way all the way back and with a lot of garbage time there because we lost by 10 points that's the narrative...​
I don't believe Jimmy Johnson if he stayed would have won more than one more Super Bowl or been to two more NFC championship games that's what was left of the remnants of his team and then they all got old and retired and I believe he would have not been here in 1997 either so even if you would have kept the guy I don't think it would have changed anything... But that's what's great about opinions I don't believe anything would have been different had he stayed another couple of years... he would've left anyway​
down the whole bill Parcells fiasco that's all bill Parcells he left here he quit and he screwed us out of Sean Payton because if Sean Payton knew that bill Parcells was about to up and leave without really a notice like Jerry had no idea that bill was about to quit they could have retained Sean Payton in my opinion and then yes I think maybe not having Garrett here versus sean payton could have changed a lot for this franchise.. I believe bill Parcells for that mess you could say he couldn't get along with Jerry he knew what he was getting into when he came here he started something here and then he just gave up like he usually does he's a quitter and he's an ex New York giant I hate him anyway so I don't even look at him in high regard great he came here and started us going forward after all the lean years once switzer left..​
But I'm not in this debate but I'm about to go out of town but if this is what he's insinuating or inferring up there that's all wrong in my opinion he's looking at it backwards...​
 

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Nah, you only catch Hell if you choose it. I understand it all, and not one of those whiney crying, complaining fans, that are a prisoner of the moment, letting the media lead them around by the nose.
LOL. Try to act like you are above it, then turn right around and start with the name calling.

It's too late to be convincing.
 

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So much cope….9ers have been to 3 super bowls and 8 NFC championships since 1997.

Dallas……zero
who cares about that ?

If you're saying we're just coping by saying it's about winning Super Bowl rings and that the 49ers haven't won a Super Bowl ring in a longer amount of time than us, and that would be true but if this wasn't about how the 49ers have been the better franchise since then, absolutely yes, that's not what this debate's about, this debate is winning championships because that is all it's really about IMHO

we've been in the playoffs 5 out of the last eight years we end up getting booted out in a terrible fashion but when we bring up these debates it's not to cope, it's reality,

it's hard to win Super Bowls if this is just about Super Bowls well the 49ers have been as bad at that as we have but yes they're the better franchise... they've done a lot more they've had a lot more chances and they've been closer ,

but if this is NOT just about getting close, ask about bills fans and the Buffalo Bill franchise will they trade 3 Super Bowl rings and then have a drought 28 years, then not having any Super Bowl wins but just 4 losing appearances or ask cinci the same thing , when we're waiting on #5 it's a lot easier to cope with, yes ,when you use that kind of actual logic it would make more sense on some of our views vs yours..
 

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As long as they're still the #1 in revenue, the title stands. I'm not a fan of the nickname either, but majority rules.
I get what you're saying but it's not just about revenue we still are a big time ratings grab in prime time games but that would not be the case have we not been top 6IN regular season wins the last decade we've been to the playoffs 5 in the last eight years the Cowboys are still relative enough to draw ratings if we suck really bad and we were the Cleveland Browns we would not have that title we would not have been able to keep it Jerry Jones came in here and won three Super Bowls really quick and there may have been a drought but the one thing we have been is a team that is threatening and winning divisions and making the playoffs pretty often that still makes you relative just not in the way we would hope but that's what keeps them on prime time that's what keeps the ratings up and that is what this is about the revenue comes with the territory but you also have to be winning you can't just be bad and be the Dallas Cowboys and fill seats we are losing in the playoffs but we're winning in the regular season and getting to the playoffs which is why we can still be this relative...

Whether you love us or hate us or you're on the fence you're tuning in to the Dallas Cowboys... That would have stopped a long time ago had we been a terrible team the last 10 to 15 years we have not been a bad team we haven't even been this average middling team that you guys somehow put online you know average is 16 right 'cause there's 32 teams?

we've been nowhere near 16 we've been finishing in the top six in most years. I mean the current quarterback has never even been part of a losing season since 2016 when he's healthy and he starts and finishes the season we have a winning record that's what's putting eyes on the Dallas Cowboys that were still relative in that manner....
 

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Nah, you only catch Hell if you choose it. I understand it all, and not one of those whiney crying, complaining fans, that are a prisoner of the moment, letting the media lead them around by the nose.
Translation
I’m happy with some regular seasons wins and a playoff appearance, it’s only 29 years nothing to worry about someday it will happen
 

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Frankly I don't either, I'm trying to give you constant whiners some mental help, because I'm tired of reading and hearing ya'll cry and complain and talk like you know football and you're just being ignorant, it is what it is let it go or find another team but stop with all the whining
Did you ever stop to consider that it’s good for the people on this site to say what they are feeling as a therapeutic outlet?

Who made you judge and jury on what people can and can’t say or complain about here?

Why don’t you take your own advice and go somewhere else - at the least get off your high horse as nobody gives a crap about your view on whether people can complain or state their opinions here -

You just aren’t that important
 

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It’s worse in theory but it’s like the Bills going to 5SBs…seems like that type of heartbreak is different.
You mean 4 super bowls? You're right, it's disappointing. But they had great seasons right up until the end. I'll take that over being a Browns fan with no hope ever.

The 1980, '81, and '82 seasons were fantastic. We lost all three championship games. But I wouldn't trade those season for our last three. Even though they ended poorly, I had hope we'd go to the SB.
 

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Mediocrity my friend, Mediocrity. The fan base not only loves it, they defend it.

What else isnt the OP adding to the argument, why "Dallas hasnt been relevant in all that time" "But the playoffs"? they will argue, "sure sure, a few one and dones, but who takes tahte serious besides our fans?" no one, dats who. Who respects a team that hits the bottom of relevancy? Only our fans who defend mediocrity and havent known we used to have high standards.

Riddle me this Bat OP, name another franchise to fire not 1 SB winning head coach, not 2, but 3?
No one here loves mediocrity or is defending it. Every Cowboys fan is frustrated that the team hasn’t reached or won the Super Bowl in almost 30 years. The Cowboys are relevant whether they win a championship or not because Jerry manages to keep them relevant. There isn’t a more polarizing team in the NFL than the Cowboys.
 

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Then it's time for the media and fans to stop this "America's Team " hype and stop putting us in so many prime time spots.

If there's no longer an EXPECTATION that we should be winning championships, stop feeding into it and cultivating it

It can't be both
False hope and artificial hype = MONEY
 

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It happens every day. No one comes out and says it quite like that, but defending the Dak resigning, for example, because he has the ability to beat up on dog teams in the regular season is what? It's defending mediocrity.
I knew someone would bring up Dak, some of you just can’t resist. The Cowboys wouldn’t even be making the playoffs if it wasn’t for him. We would likely be no better than 1-4 right now without him. Stop complaining and be glad we have a viable QB that gives us a chance every year.
 

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I knew someone would bring up Dak, some of you just can’t resist. The Cowboys wouldn’t even be making the playoffs if it wasn’t for him. We would likely be no better than 1-4 right now without him. Stop complaining and be glad we have a viable QB that gives us a chance every year.
A chance for one and done.
 
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