Impossible to win unless the QB takes a discount

[Chasing6]

If this is true........how do you explain 4 years on his rookie deal? We didn't do a darn thing with the extra cap space/money

Take a look a the dead cap $.

 

[Cowboys5217]

https://www.themirror.com/sport/american-football/patrick-mahomes-tom-brady-move-384941

 

[Chasing6]

https://www.themirror.com/sport/american-football/patrick-mahomes-tom-brady-move-384941

That means nothing. They moved money to a sign on bonus and pushed the cost out over his remaining contract.

He did not take a pay cut or less money. It was restructured.

Dak restructured his contract multiple times.

 

[America's Cowboy]

It’s not a discount to avoid overpaying. It is what the player is worth.

Who sets the worth? Every year QB pay keeps going up? Why? Because dumb owners want to overpay the next owner. They keep caving in to these waaaay overpriced yearly increases.

 

[Chasing6]

Who sets the worth? Every year QB pay keeps going up? Why? Because dumb owners want to overpay the next owner. They keep caving in to these waaaay overpriced yearly increases.

You end up over paying when you have a poor GM and you do not have a back up plan in place.

GB made an investment in Love, when they still had Rodgers.

 

[CowboyoWales]

You end up over paying when you have a poor GM and you do not have a back up plan in place.

GB made an investment in Love, when they still had Rodgers.

So how could Jones have prevented this situation?

 

[noshame]

Discount? Like zero and hasta la vista baby.

 

[nate dizzle]

He just had a team with 9 All Pros on it and people act like it needs to be 22. It won't matter how much of a discount he gives. He's going to choke you out in the playoffs.

 

[nate dizzle]

So how could Jones have prevented this situation?

Seems like he's following in GBs steps. Lance is our Love.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Seems like he's following in GBs steps. Lance is our Love.

Correct, but that response should of been to.......

You end up over paying when you have a poor GM and you do not have a back up plan in place.

GB made an investment in Love, when they still had Rodgers.

 

[CowboyoWales]

You end up over paying when you have a poor GM and you do not have a back up plan in place.

GB made an investment in Love, when they still had Rodgers.

So is your argument that:
a) Dak is just the 'market price' for a 'top' QB
b) The Jones are to blame for having to pay the 'market price'
c) Jones is to blame as their was no viable alternative.

....because yet again it's a case of BLAME ANYONE BUT DAK.

For the record i'd be offering him a long term contract, with some wiggle room on the Guaranteed money and ability to restructure (oh and of course a professional GM to implement this).

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Dak could play for free and he’d still fail.

Losers lose.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Dak could play for free and he’d still fail.

Losers lose.

I suppose the question of worth is.....what do we get for our buck? What will he provide with say a $55m per contract that he couldnt manage on $40m. Dont forget that if he wants a 3 year contract (and we add 2 void years) we'll be paying an additional $8m in deferred CAP bonus.

 

[Kwyn]

This thread is going places.

 

[Flamma]

LOL.......this isn't true

This is how the Jones boys fool people. They could have opened up 40-50M in space and been plenty active. But that would have required a Dak extension. For those that don't want to see Dak extended, they can't complain about little free agency action.

I'm on the fence with a Dak extension, and leaning no. But I'd be all for it if they were actually going all in this year. Just to see it happen once!

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I suppose the question of worth is.....what do we get for our buck? What will he provide with say a $55m per contract that he couldnt manage on $40m. Dont forget that if he wants a 3 year contract (and we add 2 void years) we'll be paying an additional $8m in deferred CAP bonus.

He will provide the same thing he’s provided for 8 seasons.

Failure.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

you have a chance if he's top 10 all time, but did Brady get paid more than every other qb? QBs hog up too much of the cap. the first top 10 qbto realize this and take less will help start a dynasty

You can pay Dak 1 $ and we will still lose in the first round of the playoffs.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

This is how the Jones boys fool people. They could have opened up 40-50M in space and been plenty active. But that would have required a Dak extension. For those that don't want to see Dak extended, they can't complain about little free agency action.

I'm on the fence with a Dak extension, and leaning no. But I'd be all for it if they were actually going all in this year. Just to see it happen once!

There is no “all in” with Dak.

At a certain point, in important situations, the QB will be required to step up and do things that Dak is not capable of doing.

You can only carry someone so far for so long before they have to pull their weight a little. The Cowboys look their worst when Dak has to carry his weight.

 

[acr731]

you have a chance if he's top 10 all time, but did Brady get paid more than every other qb? QBs hog up too much of the cap. the first top 10 qbto realize this and take less will help start a dynasty

Taking less money isn't going to help Dak perform better. He is what he is.

 

[khiladi]

It’s impossible to win with this QB…

Dak can’t throw past his first read consistently, no matter who the player is. We had Cooper, Lamb and a health Gallup…. Still sucked