In my opinion, the final four prospects for the Cowboys (if they stay at #22)

[The30YardSlant]

Your list is ridiculous. Patrick Willis won't make it past #12 and I believe Nelson is going to JAX at #17. I also think Ginn Jr. will be gone by the time Dallas picks. Branch was on my list as well. We disagree on WR which is fine but I think Jerry has changed a great deal since Parcells got here. He sounded serious throughout the whole press conference.

Reggie Nelson is by no means a lock at #17, the Jaguars have needs on the O-Line, corner and OLB

Willis is probably gone at #12, but like I said, stranger things have happened. If he fell past Buffalo, it could be fre-fall time much like Stephen Jackson, who was a "lock" for the top 15 in 2003.

 

[TheSport78]

how do you know that HH? do you know what the Dallas board looks like and how the draft will unfold?

thank you Bob Sacamano!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Oakland has contacted Brady Quinn and Gaines Adams, are they likley to pick either?

yes, anything's possible, you don't know what teams are going to do, but if they are interested in players, it's most likely that they are on their radar, so thusly, they are a likely pick, it's not like this guy is plucking names out of a hat, they are players Dallas is generally interested in and are 1st round candidates, who should be available at 22, and why use Oakland as your example? of course they aren't going to draft Alan Branch #1 overall

 

[The30YardSlant]

how do you know that HH? do you know what the Dallas board looks like and how the draft will unfold?

No, but I can make judgements based on what I've seen. Houston is a better CB prospect that Ross, he is both faster and more physical and played against better WRs in the SEC than Ross did in the Big XII.

It would hardly shock anyone if Nelson fell to #22, and he is easily better than Merriweather as a FS

 

[The30YardSlant]

yes, anything's possible

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd we're done

 

[The30YardSlant]

HH what are you talking about? WHere have you been lately? THe 2 most common names that have been linked to the dallas cowboys lately have been Meriweather and Spencer. Now I agree 22 may be a little reach for spencer...however, at 22 Meriweather imo is who we are targeting.

There is no way Jerruh picks an OLB 3 straight years, especially one who is a second round prospect to many

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd we're done

I guess, since you haven't, nor can't, refute, that the players TheSport78 have listed are among likely candidates for Dallas to draft

btw, I don't think the list stops at just Merriweather, Ross, Spencer and whoever else TheSport has, but they are logical choices

 

[The30YardSlant]

The only safety in this draft that is better than Meriweather is Landry

 

[JBS]

Nelson is definitely NOT the far better safety prospect between him and meriweather..IF meriweather didn't have any character issues he would be the 2nd best S prospect in this draft....as far as physical tools guy meriweather is by far the better player. Meriweather has 1) a larger mental bandwidth...2) Has the ability to play in the slot...and 3) a better cover safety as well as plays the run better.....AND HITS harder...there really isnt much of a comparison between the two....

 

[The30YardSlant]

I guess, since you haven't, nor can't, refute, that the players TheSport78 have listed are likely candidates for Dallas to draft

If you're going to keep pounding your point home by saying there is a chance Oakland drafts Gaines Adams, then there is nothing left to talk about.

 

[VACowboy]

Lynch is a strong possibility for Buffalo too, but I'd bet Willis wouldn't get past Pittsburgh.

Anybody who thinks Spencer and Merriweather aren't serious possibilities at #22 isn't paying attention.

 

[TheSport78]

No, but I can make judgements based on what I've seen. Houston is a better CB prospect that Ross, he is both faster and more physical and played against better WRs in the SEC than Ross did in the Big XII.

It would hardly shock anyone if Nelson fell to #22, and he is easily better than Merriweather as a FS

Comparing Nelson and Merriweather is like apples and oranges. Both are extremely talented but I believe Merriweather would be a better fit in the 34 due to his versatility. Wade could use Merriweather in a more unique way compared to Nelson who is mostly known for his coverage skills. Merriweather excels in coverage just like Nelson. Also, Merriweather is known for being a student of the game while Nelson has had questions raised about his intelligence. We need a QB of the defense incase Hamlin doesn't workout and that player is Merriweather.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Nelson is definitely NOT the far better safety prospect between him and meriweather..IF meriweather didn't have any character issues he would be the 2nd best S prospect in this draft....as far as physical tools guy meriweather is by far the better player. Meriweather has 1) a larger mental bandwidth...2) Has the ability to play in the slot...and 3) a better cover safety as well as plays the run better.....AND HITS harder...there really isnt much of a comparison between the two....

Yes, that explains why Nelson is projected higher on every mock out there.

Both are good in coverage, but Nelson seems to read QBs better and it is reflected in his INT and PD totals

 

[Bob Sacamano]

If you're going to keep pounding your point home by saying there is a chance Oakland drafts Gaines Adams, then there is nothing left to talk about.

sorry HH, we're not going off on a tangent that has nothing to do w/ the topic at hand just because you can't debate it logically anymore, using Oakland is a stupid example since only 2 maybe 3, players are worth the #1 overall choice in this draft

CJ
Jamarcus and maybe Quinn

we pick at 22, and alot of players are worthy of that selection, or significantly more than who are worthy of the #1 overall choice

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yes, that explains why Nelson is projected higher on every mock out there.

Both are good in coverage, but Nelson seems to read QBs better and it is reflected in his INT and PD totals

:laugh2: wow

it's widely being circulated that read and react and IQ skills are a big weakness for Nelson

 

[TheSport78]

Yes, that explains why Nelson is projected higher on every mock out there.

Both are good in coverage, but Nelson seems to read QBs better and it is reflected in his INT and PD totals

The only reason Nelson is projected higher is because of Merriweather's character "issues," which I believe are non-existent. Look at the history of Miami safeties. History is also on Merriweather's side.

 

[JBS]

Yes, that explains why Nelson is projected higher on every mock out there.

Both are good in coverage, but Nelson seems to read QBs better and it is reflected in his INT and PD totals

The ONLY reason Nelson is projected to go higher....and in case you did not know projections dont mean much...but anyways....is because of Meriweathers character issues....Based on TALENT alone....Meriweather is a top 15 talent in this draft...

 

[The30YardSlant]

sorry HH, we're not going off on a tangent that has nothing to do w/ the topic at hand just because you can't debate it logically anymore

I presented you with a postulate that must be true if your argument held any merit. You claimed Dallas would draft one of said players because they had been talked to and brough tin for workouts. Therefore, Oakland must also be considering Gaines Adams and Brady Quinn at #1, since both have been contacted. However, this is not the case, it is simply a ploy to make other teams want to trade with them, and you know it.

In other words, that "tangent" discredits your assumption. If you're too dense to see it, well, sorry.

 

[TheSport78]

The ONLY reason Nelson is projected to go higher....and in case you did not know projections dont mean much...but anyways....is because of Meriweathers character issues....Based on TALENT alone....Meriweather is a top 15 talent in this draft...

smart fans think alike...unlike others on this board coughcoughHHcoughcough

 

[The30YardSlant]

:laugh2: wow

it's widely being circulated that read and react and IQ skills are a big weakness for Nelson

Yes, his 6 INTs really reflect a lack in reaction time

An outstanding natural athlete...Good speed and quickness with terrific range...A ballhawk and impact playmaker in the secondary...Is very instinctive...Aggressive, physical and a big hitter who plays much bigger than he is...Is more than willing to come up and help support the run...Versatile and may be able to play multiple positions...Very productive and has a knack for being around the action...Upside.

And as all of us with any short term memory know, intelligence is hardly a determinant of a good football player. Vince Young is as dumb as they come, and all he did was win a NC and ROY