In your opinions what are the 5 worst franchises in the NFL?

[DoctorChicken]

Cleveland is the worst. A franchise where careers die as soon as they begin.

To turn things around, those in charge decided to give multiple picks and a guaranteed contract in exchange for a sexual predator who now sucks at football.

Being a Browns fan has to be tough.

 

[blueblood70]

easier ranked by draft spots..yera to year people dont make it complicated!!! dallas is who their records is from 2024 ND CAN CHANGE, like the 3 years stretch of 12 wins with playoff and 2 division tiles thats top 6 or bottom 6 in draft order

easy peasy..

Just simply leave your emotions out of it I mean it gets old with the hyperbole the rhetoric the opinions that are so slanted by what's going on with recency bias.. 2025 is TBD!!

1
Tennessee Titans
2
Cleveland Browns
3
New York Giants
4
New England Patriots
5
Jacksonville Jaguars
6
Las Vegas Raiders
7
New York Jets
8
Carolina Panthers
9
New Orleans Saints
10
Chicago Bears
11
San Francisco 49ers
12
Dallas Cowboys
13
Miami Dolphins
14
Indianapolis Colts
15
Atlanta Falcons
16
Arizona Cardinals
17
Cincinnati Bengals
18
Seattle Seahawks
19
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
20
Denver Broncos
21
Pittsburgh Steelers
22
Los Angeles Chargers
23
Green Bay Packers
24
Minnesota Vikings
25
Houston Texans
26
Los Angeles Rams
27
Baltimore Ravens
28
Detroit Lions
29
Washington Commanders
30
Buffalo Bills
31
Philadelphia Eagles #
32
Kansas City Chiefs #

 

[blueblood70]

Cleveland is the worst. A franchise where careers die as soon as they begin.

To turn things around, those in charge decided to give multiple picks and a guaranteed contract in exchange for a sexual predator who now sucks at football.

Being a Browns fan has to be tough.

true but tie with the jags, both NY teams etc raiders arent far behind..

 

[atlantacowboy]

Every season brings new hope. Whether you like it or not, Ben Johnson is just as much an unknown quantity as Brian Schottenheimer. anytime there is a change at HC, I am hopeful. If I lacked hope, which is clear you do, I'd find something else to do with my time.

Is this a comedy bit? Hope you are better at your day job.

Johnson was the hottest Coordinator 2 years in a row turning jobs down last year waiting for the right opportunity. Nobody was interviewing Schotty for HC jobs..... he was a lazy hire of convenience.

 

[conner01]

Browns
Jets
Jaguars
Panthers

5 is a tough one. Maybe Raiders or Bears.

My thoughts too. But I’d put raiders at 5 just simply because bears are in rebuild, hsve a decent QB and raiders are just same thibg over again

 

[conner01]

Browns easily #1
putrid or close to it every year since the 90's
they have made it to only 4 wildcard games in 35 years and lost all of them

And they have a decent roster. Some of the bad teams don’t have any talent at all

 

[Nova]

I don't think there are 5

I think there are only 2

1. Browns
2. Jags

The rest in the bottom are just visitors.

 

[ColoradoCowboy]

Are we talking "All Time" or something more recent like "last 10 years"? It makes a difference.

 

[Sydla]

Every season brings new hope. Whether you like it or not, Ben Johnson is just as much an unknown quantity as Brian Schottenheimer. anytime there is a change at HC, I am hopeful. If I lacked hope, which is clear you do, I'd find something else to do with my time.

Ehhhh, Ben Johnson at least has a history of being a top notch playcaller. He was a highly sought after assistant. Schottenheimer has little in his background that can match that and he wasn't exactly a hot commodity. That doesn't guarantee that Johnson will succeed and Schotty will fail but to try to lump them in the same bucket is a reach.

Schottenheimer is a much larger risk than Johnson IMO.

 

[INCowboysFan]

Ehhhh, Ben Johnson at least has a history of being a top notch playcaller. He was a highly sought after assistant. Schottenheimer has little in his background that can match that and he wasn't exactly a hot commodity. That doesn't guarantee that Johnson will succeed and Schotty will fail but to try to lump them in the same bucket is a reach.

Schottenheimer is a much larger risk than Johnson IMO.

The point is, the are both unknown quantities as a HC. I think its a stretch to say one is a bigger risk than the other at this point.

 

[INCowboysFan]

Is this a comedy bit? Hope you are better at your day job.

Johnson was the hottest Coordinator 2 years in a row turning jobs down last year waiting for the right opportunity. Nobody was interviewing Schotty for HC jobs..... he was a lazy hire of convenience.

Not disputing that it was a convenient hire. I'd say Johnson is just as likely to bust as he is to succeed in Chicago.

 

[gimmesix]

Very curious to see what people think and where Dallas fits.

In no order the 5 worst franchises, and I base this on the lack of postseason success are:

Cleveland
Chicago
Raiders
Panthers
Cowboys

NYG and Jacksonville are right there. Washington, Detroit and Buffalo have graduated.

What do you guys think?

There are 12 teams that have never won a Super Bowl. As bad as we've been the last 30 years, I think the list has to start there. Some of those teams seem to be on the rise, though, so the order would probably be: (In parenthesis, Super Bowl appearances)

1) Cleveland Browns (0)
2) Jacksonville Jaguars (0)
3) Arizona Cardinals (1)
4) Carolina Panthers (2)
5) Atlanta Falcons (2)
6) Tennessee Titans (1)
7) Cincinnati Bengals (3)
8) Detroit Lions (0)
9) Houston Texans (0)
10) Los Angeles Chargers (0)
11) Minnesota Vikings (4)
12) Buffalo Bills (4)

As pitiful as our drought is, imagine rooting for a team that has never even made it to the Super Bowl or has never won one.

 

[MapleLeaf]

Very curious to see what people think and where Dallas fits.

In no order the 5 worst franchises, and I base this on the lack of postseason success are:

Cleveland
Chicago
Raiders
Panthers
Cowboys

NYG and Jacksonville are right there. Washington, Detroit and Buffalo have graduated.

What do you guys think?

What is the determining criteria/metric other than opinion?

For me an indicator of a poorly run organization is one that consistently under utilizes or wastes resources. Underperforming in relation to its natural advantages. For me that would be Dallas. Their overall organizational value and annual revenue generated year after year for the past 30+ years to only get as far as they have in the past 29 years tournament wise is an embarassment.

Tell me one owner or GM or HC who would not want the resources that Dallas has at their disposal.

We can bash our heads all we want with circumspect, theories (conspiracy or otherwise) and conjecture, but the results on the field in tournament time would lead me to believe Dallas is the worst franchise based on the metric I have proposed.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Dallas
Dallas
Dallas
Dallas
Dallas.

 

[kskboys]

easier ranked by draft spots..yera to year people dont make it complicated!!! dallas is who their records is from 2024 ND CAN CHANGE, like the 3 years stretch of 12 wins with playoff and 2 division tiles thats top 6 or bottom 6 in draft order

easy peasy..

Just simply leave your emotions out of it I mean it gets old with the hyperbole the rhetoric the opinions that are so slanted by what's going on with recency bias.. 2025 is TBD!!

1
Tennessee Titans
2
Cleveland Browns
3
New York Giants
4
New England Patriots
5
Jacksonville Jaguars
6
Las Vegas Raiders
7
New York Jets
8
Carolina Panthers
9
New Orleans Saints
10
Chicago Bears
11
San Francisco 49ers
12
Dallas Cowboys
13
Miami Dolphins
14
Indianapolis Colts
15
Atlanta Falcons
16
Arizona Cardinals
17
Cincinnati Bengals
18
Seattle Seahawks
19
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
20
Denver Broncos
21
Pittsburgh Steelers
22
Los Angeles Chargers
23
Green Bay Packers
24
Minnesota Vikings
25
Houston Texans
26
Los Angeles Rams
27
Baltimore Ravens
28
Detroit Lions
29
Washington Commanders
30
Buffalo Bills
31
Philadelphia Eagles #
32
Kansas City Chiefs #

Doesn't work that way. A well run franchise can (and should) have down years. Record does not indicate bad franchise.

 

[kskboys]

There are 12 teams that have never won a Super Bowl. As bad as we've been the last 30 years, I think the list has to start there. Some of those teams seem to be on the rise, though, so the order would probably be: (In parenthesis, Super Bowl appearances)

1) Cleveland Browns (0)
2) Jacksonville Jaguars (0)
3) Arizona Cardinals (1)
4) Carolina Panthers (2)
5) Atlanta Falcons (2)
6) Tennessee Titans (1)
7) Cincinnati Bengals (3)
8) Detroit Lions (0)
9) Houston Texans (0)
10) Los Angeles Chargers (0)
11) Minnesota Vikings (4)
12) Buffalo Bills (4)

As pitiful as our drought is, imagine rooting for a team that has never even made it to the Super Bowl or has never won one.

Bad list. Can't make this list using only one parameter.

 

[gimmesix]

Bad list. Can't make this list using only one parameter.

Says you. My criteria is Super Bowl victories. That's why the last 29 years have been unsuccessful for our team. But as bad as that is, I'd hate to be a fan of those teams who have never tasted Super Bowl success, or worse, never even gone to one. Now, some of those teams see a light at the end of their tunnels, which is why I put Detroit, Houston, LA, Minnesota and Buffalo last, but they still haven't got there. I still have five Super Bowl victories to sustain me as a longtime fan and eight appearances. It doesn't make me happier about the state of the team today, but imagine if we didn't even have that.

Now obviously, some of these teams are newer than others, but they still have nothing to show for their years in the league.

 

[kskboys]

Says you. My criteria is Super Bowl victories. That's why the last 29 years have been unsuccessful for our team. But as bad as that is, I'd hate to be a fan of those teams who have never tasted Super Bowl success, or worse, never even gone to one. Now, some of those teams see a light at the end of their tunnels, which is why I put Detroit, Houston, LA, Minnesota and Buffalo last, but they still haven't got there. I still have five Super Bowl victories to sustain me as a longtime fan and eight appearances. It doesn't make me happier about the state of the team today, but imagine if we didn't even have that.

Now obviously, some of these teams are newer than others, but they still have nothing to show for their years in the league.

Buff is a good franchise. When they played in 4 consecutive, they were one of the best run team of the time.

You are only counting super bowls, that's a sign of success, may or may not show how well a franchise is being run. Look at the current BUFF and DET teams. Both are being run very well, no super bowls.

Like I said, bad parameters.

 

[Steve007]

I hope some of that Cleveland Shottenheimer magic wears off on the Son

It doesn't matter, Jerry is in the old Al Davis mode. Stephen is next.

 

[blueblood70]

There are 12 teams that have never won a Super Bowl. As bad as we've been the last 30 years, I think the list has to start there. Some of those teams seem to be on the rise, though, so the order would probably be: (In parenthesis, Super Bowl appearances)

1) Cleveland Browns (0)
2) Jacksonville Jaguars (0)
3) Arizona Cardinals (1)
4) Carolina Panthers (2)
5) Atlanta Falcons (2)
6) Tennessee Titans (1)
7) Cincinnati Bengals (3)
8) Detroit Lions (0)
9) Houston Texans (0)
10) Los Angeles Chargers (0)
11) Minnesota Vikings (4)
12) Buffalo Bills (4)

As pitiful as our drought is, imagine rooting for a team that has never even made it to the Super Bowl or has never won one.

I agree and the pitiful thing about the Cleveland Browns is they haven't even won a division since 1989... I mean I don't even know how to describe it that had happened around here 'cause people seem to be awful jaded over being in the playoffs 5 out of the last eight years we won two divisions in the last four years in a division where allegedly the best GM in the league resides one of the best teams that go to the Super bowl often even though they have only won one if we beat them we nearly beat Washington 2 times this year with a practice squad so as much as our demise seems bad on the outside when you start using a wider perspective it's not that bad and to add in one of the best teams in the league this last decade which would be the Kansas City Chiefs it took them 56 years that was their drought before they got to win another Super Bowl...drought 1970 SB win -2020 SB win AFCCG 1970win -1994 LOSS drought 1994-2019 2nd drought

So yes, our first step to help fans get over this mess would be to get to an NFC championship game win or lose it sure would be nice to be back there just to say we've been back there baby steps....