Interesting Michael Gallup quote

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So you were defending Moore's "unstoppable offense" and now you are saying it wasn't?
The Cowboys run game with Pollard was unstoppable with Steele at right tackle. That was my solitary point in the other thread.

I will acknowledge that any coach or coordinator Dallas has had has faced handicaps created by the Joneses. But I believe the problem is a combination of the offensive philosophy Garrett installed (and Moore built on) and the Joneses' poor use of free agency. Moore doesn't deserve to be absolved, just like Garrett didn't and Linehan didn't.

Like I've said, we'll see with Moore if the blame for the offensive shortcomings are more on him or the personnel. New York showed that Garrett was more of a problem than the team. Scott Linehan certainly hasn't gone on to bigger things since he was fired.

Now, it's a team game, so the blame hardly ever should all be placed on one coach or player. There were obstacles this team faced and we didn't show the ability to overcome them on offense. Moore takes the fall for that. We'll see if he deserves it.

My feeling is that he deserves his share because some of the same philosophical elements present in Garrett's and Linehan's coaching were present in Moore's. I believe those elements hurt the offense and keep it from being all that it can be, and those problems show up in games like the San Fran playoff games.

I suppose you believe an OC should have Rapunzel skills, fashion a rope from hair. Expecting Dallas to succeed in SF without Pollard, without Steele, with only one functional WR and with a middling' QB...Quite a fairy tale that would have made.
 

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I don't know why anyone, including this team, expected Gallup to be the same last season coming off ACL surgery. Players often take a step back the first year. The team's poor planning at receiver was the problem last year, not Gallup.
Because medical technology, surgical techniques, rehab techniques are a far cry drom what they were, so I was told by many members here, some of which had the same surgery and back to "normal" life quickly because the trip from the kitchen to the couch can be tough on a surgically repaired knee is the benchmark....:rolleyes:
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I suppose you believe an OC should have Rapunzel skills, fashion a rope from hair. Expecting Dallas to succeed in SF without Pollard, without Steele, with only one functional WR and with a middling' QB...Quite a fairy tale that would have made.
Why didn't Dallas succeed against San Fran the previous postseason?

Look, I excused Jason Garrett for a long time because some of his offenses with Romo at quarterback were quite good most of the time and would fall short when they had to rely more on talent or when there were injury issues, etc. I think Moore is better than Garrett because he shows some creativity with movement that Garrett never showed, but he has some of the same tendencies, which he learned from Linehan and Garrett, that show up in his play-calling/scheme at times. Maybe that's just because of the personnel he had (which I don't believe) or maybe it's because he's still learning to be a coordinator and falls back on the things he was taught (which I do believe). He may grow and adapt into being his own OC, but I'm glad to cut the strings on the Garrett ties and see what happens. Moore's "great" offenses here had some of the same problems Garrett's "great" offenses did, and I'm ready to give something else a try.

McCarthy may fall on his face, but he also was a hot, young coordinator at one point who had one of the best offenses in the game. Of course, he also had one of the best quarterbacks, so we'll see if he can do it with a quarterback who isn't on that level.

BTW, I don't believe I disagreed with your point in the other thread. The only thing I ever debated was Moore's value. And truth is, I don't know what his value is because he's only been an offensive coordinator here, where we've come up short in the playoffs. This season should show us a lot.
 

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Why didn't Dallas succeed against San Fran the previous postseason?

Look, I excused Jason Garrett for a long time because some of his offenses with Romo at quarterback were quite good most of the time and would fall short when they had to rely more on talent or when there were injury issues, etc. I think Moore is better than Garrett because he shows some creativity with movement that Garrett never showed, but he has some of the same tendencies, which he learned from Linehan and Garrett, that show up in his play-calling/scheme at times. Maybe that's just because of the personnel he had (which I don't believe) or maybe it's because he's still learning to be a coordinator and falls back on the things he was taught (which I do believe). He may grow and adapt into being his own OC, but I'm glad to cut the strings on the Garrett ties and see what happens. Moore's "great" offenses here had some of the same problems Garrett's "great" offenses did, and I'm ready to give something else a try.

McCarthy may fall on his face, but he also was a hot, young coordinator at one point who had one of the best offenses in the game. Of course, he also had one of the best quarterbacks, so we'll see if he can do it with a quarterback who isn't on that level.

BTW, I don't believe I disagreed with your point in the other thread. The only thing I ever debated was Moore's value. And truth is, I don't know what his value is because he's only been an offensive coordinator here, where we've come up short in the playoffs. This season should show us a lot.
I see a Head Coach who can compare to Jimmy Johnson, as he also has two coordinators who can control both sides of the field as did Jimmy's when his dynasty started.
 

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Certainly, it happens. That's what the Cowboys were counting on. They shouldn't have been.
But somehow Godwin not only has the same surgery, same timeframe, gets back game 1 hurt his hammy but plays 15games and has 104 receptions and over 1k yards.,, in hindsight was an oversight but still won 12 games and got to 2nd round..theyve seen it they thought he was on schedule did NOT rush him back and it didnt work out.
 

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Tight Roping: That is the newest surgery procedure running back Tony Pollard underwent to repair the torn ligaments above his ankle where the tibia and fibula come together. Instead of inserting screws to repair the torn ligaments, and then having to undergo a second surgery to remove those screws, they now basically use thin fiber to tie the ligaments together around the lower bones above the ankle to facilitate healing. Now called “tightrope” surgery. For a previous example, this is the surgery performed to repair Tua Tagovailoa’s high ankle sprain during the 2019 season at Alabama. And for a better explanation of the surgery, here is how surgeon Dr. Norman Waldrop, who was part of the team that performed the procedure on Tagovailoa, explained how this method creates a more stable ankle and allows the ligaments to heal in their natural position. “What we do is we drill a hole from the fibula into the tibia and cast these tightropes through the bone and synch it down and tighten it,” he said back then. “What these tightropes do are stabilize the ankle. It holds that little bone in its home. It holds it still and stable enough that the bones don’t want to spread apart.” Knowing this, Pollard should be ready to go in plenty of time for the start of training camp the last week in July.
 

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Not a better, but I'll stick with my prediction.
Me too.

Though I won't "hedge my bet" by saying so, I would note that there are different kinds of "torn" ACLs, could be it was only partially torn or completely ripped in half, with the former having of course a shorter recovery time. If Steele's was the less severe kind, yeah, he might get back by season's opener. Like I said, we'll see!

Good luck....
 

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Me too.

Though I won't "hedge my bet" by saying so, I would note that there are different kinds of "torn" ACLs, could be it was only partially torn or completely ripped in half, with the former having of course a shorter recovery time. If Steele's was the less severe kind, yeah, he might get back by season's opener. Like I said, we'll see!

Good luck....
I think someone posted a video of him working out last month, while Gallup is saying he wasn't even able to walk at this point, so it's looking good for Steele so far.
 

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We shall see friend. We shall see. Feels like a Fat Zeke off season work out video to me.
 

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And your dumbo GM traded away Amari Cooper on this news? Way to go Arlington Jonesboys and fans.

Amari Cooper was replaced by Lamb. Time to unload the contract. You don’t move your overpaid supposed #1 WR to the 2 spot. lol Some fans are living in a fairy tale if they think that’s how this works. Production and value. Neither one was there by the end of the 21 season. He was a low end #1 who got replaced and then traded.
 

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This should give everyone concern about how effective Pollard will be this season.
All injuries are exactly the same. Paper cut or bullet wound... both require the same amount of time to heal...or not.
 

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All injuries are exactly the same. Paper cut or bullet wound... both require the same amount of time to heal...or not.
Dude what’s your point? Pollard had ligaments repaired in his ankle…Gallup had ligaments repaired in his knee. Not as night and day as you seem to insinuate.
 

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Dude what’s your point? Pollard had ligaments repaired in his ankle…Gallup had ligaments repaired in his knee. Not as night and day as you seem to insinuate.
Night and day injury

sorry but don't play that game. seriously, most experts that dealt with Pollards injury said 3b months there NO REHAB, no screws, no second surgeries or evals..its simply heals and move on..

an acl is 9 month min with ton of rehab and that type of injury simply heals different for all people.

IMHO TO will have zero setback and be 100% ready for camp and Game 1...however, the issue with TP is,

after getting $10 million in a franchise tag how will the coaches use him? In my opinion if they try to give him the ball more than they gave him last year and used him too much exact thing that happened at the end of last year is gonna happen again he literally fell off the Cliff at the end of the year 3.8 yards per carry 51 yards per game no touchdowns no explosive plays in six straight games..

The more you use a player like him you start to lose what made him special....he needs to stay under 18 carries to be effective 17 games and the playoffs and stay heathy...RBBC is needed here hopefully some of the others can contribute and take the pressure off TP or the coaches feel they need to overuse TP.
 

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So we were depending on a guy that couldn't walk, a jag, and a 3rd round rookie
Couldn’t walk this time last year, walks fine now
But we still have lamb and added and elite WR we didn’t have last year too
 

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Gallop should shine this year after the mediocre season he had. It took time for him to get his knee right after he had knee surgery almost 2 years ago. This is why I didn't think OBJ would be a good fit for the Cowboys had they signed him, especially after coming off his second knee surgery in two years. OBJ had he been signed by the Cowboys last season probably wouldn't have seen the field until this year and he would have been in the same boat as Gallop, going through the motions trying to get his knee right. I believe Gallop is going to ball this season, IF Dakota "WENTZ 2.0" Prescot can find him open on the playing field!
 

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I think those that had written him off and were ready to fun him off were ignoring the fact that sometimes, guys coming off ACLs, especially at skill positions, tend to need more than just a year to get their legs back under them.

I expect a Gallup much closer to the 2018 Gallup than the one we saw last year.
Sometimes? :laugh:
 
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