Ireland to Interview with Parcells

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Gangsta Spanksta;1870004 said:
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We'll see. I think it is pretty obvious to anyone who follows football that you don't get the #1 overall pick for your scouting director.
 

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I really don't think Jerry is that worked up about losing Ireland. I think Jerry feels Ireland is getting too much of the credit. Norm asked him a few weeks ago about how much credit he gives Parcells and Ireland for rebuilding the team and Jerry said "The best year Parcells ever had was with Lacewell's talent." I think he's going to if not give Lacwell his old job back, at least get him heavily involved again.

I also think he's batcrap crazy.
 

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InmanRoshi;1870028 said:
I really don't think Jerry is that worked up about losing Ireland. I think Jerry feels Ireland is getting too much of the credit. Norm asked him a few weeks ago about how much credit he gives Parcells and Ireland for rebuilding the team and Jerry said "The best year Parcells ever had was with Lacewell's talent." I think he's going to if not give Lacwell his old job back, at least get him heavily involved again.

I also think he's batcrap crazy.

lol

Its a good think we need a corner again, lacewell excels at scouting and recommending corners.

I really hope we make a run here in the next 3 years, My heart cant take another lacewell campo jones type trio of people in charge.
 

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InmanRoshi;1870028 said:
I really don't think Jerry is that worked up about losing Ireland. I think Jerry feels Ireland is getting too much of the credit. Norm asked him a few weeks ago about how much credit he gives Parcells and Ireland for rebuilding the team and Jerry said "The best year Parcells ever had was with Lacewell's talent." I think he's going to if not give Lacwell his old job back, at least get him heavily involved again.

I also think he's batcrap crazy.

Your right, Jerry can probably afford to lose Ireland, perhaps even leverage him to build a good relationship with Miami... who knows maybe he wants to trade for the #1 pick. Drafting isn't an exact science and I am sure there is plenty of capable people out there waiting to get this job.

I'm well aware of this being business, but you can always hang your hat on "Parcells never won a playoff game, but atleast he left the franchise in a good position for the future." It seems like hes just moving and taking all our best parts.

I will consider Parcells tenure a failure, Romo is amazing but he was the last hope Parcells had. Everyone knew Parcells was nearing retirement, and couldn't get it done here. He stuck to his loyal players and let bledsoe play under the guise of "He gives us (AKA me) the best chance to win." If Romo sucked this year Parcells would have been a joke now he is a genius for catching a lucky break.

He turned the environment into a mysterious one where players wouldn't communicate with coaches. Noone would be accountable for play calling, it would be done by "committe." He signed Vanderjagt instead of Vinatieri because of some "unwritten" coaches code. Ugh. The list of blunders is miles long.

I'm not sure Lacewell would be such a great move. Heres an Article I found about Lacewells last few years here as a refresher:

This past year, the Cowboys saw little overall production from their eight draft picks. While Julius Jones, the club&#8217;s top pick, did return from a shoulder injury to finish the season strong, rushing for 819 yards in eight games, the Cowboys didn&#8217;t get anything out of their next three picks. Second-round offensive tackle Jacob Rogers only played sparingly on special teams and never on offense, while third-round guard Stephen Peterman suffered a torn ACL in preseason and missed the entire season. Fourth-round pick Bruce Thornton was inactive for the first three games before suffering a torn ACL in his first game of the season.

In 2003, Parcells&#8217; first draft with the Cowboys (edit: WITH LACEWELL), the club did come away with promising young talent, including cornerback Terence Newman in the first round, center Al Johnson in the second and then a third-round pick of tight end Jason Witten, who was elected to the Pro Bowl this past season.


But the Cowboys don&#8217;t have much to show for the previous drafts. Since 1997, only six players (Dexter Coakley, Greg Ellis, Flozell Adams, Dat Nguyen, Roy Williams and Andre Gurode) were prominent starters this past season, stemming from drafts before head coach Bill Parcells took over in 2003.


True all around. It&#8217;s hard to know whom to blame for most of the Cowboys&#8217; woes, since owner-General Manager Jerry Jones famously circumvented his expert hired hands to pursue longshot hunches like Quincy Carter. Clearly, though, the Cowboys have to get more out of their drafts to become Super Bowl contenders again.
 

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InmanRoshi;1870028 said:
I really don't think Jerry is that worked up about losing Ireland. I think Jerry feels Ireland is getting too much of the credit. Norm asked him a few weeks ago about how much credit he gives Parcells and Ireland for rebuilding the team and Jerry said "The best year Parcells ever had was with Lacewell's talent." I think he's going to if not give Lacwell his old job back, at least get him heavily involved again.

I also think he's batcrap crazy.
Why ? Why, must you even mention Lacewell coming back ?
 

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Your right, Jerry can probably afford to lose Ireland, perhaps even leverage him to build a good relationship with Miami.

Jerry already has a real good relationship with Huizinga, and kind of owes him one after he was given permission to interview and hire Jason Garrett, who was under contract with the Dolphins, for some undisclosed position before he had even hired a head coach. Kind of unheard of and unprecedented in the NFL, and Huizinga didn't have to play along.

Likewise, when it comes to Sporano, he denied him a chance to take an offensive coordinator position elsewhere, and Sporano didn't mope, complain or gripe. Jerry then paid him back by stripping him of his playcalling duties and demoted him for his golden boy Garrett after Sporano had just coordinated the 4th scoring offense in the NFL, two 1000 yard WR's, a 1,000 yard rusher, another RB who led the NFC in toucdowns and a QB who went to the Pro Bowl in his first year as a starter. Again, Sporano was nothing short of the good trooper.

So, Jerry kind of "owes" Sporano and Huizinga one, IMHO, and the Cowboys really don't have much to cry foul about. Garrett leaving would be another matter, because Jerry took a huge leap of faith hiring him before he was a hot commodity when his resume totally didn't warrant it. But that's between Jerry and Garrett.
 

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abersonc;1870023 said:
We'll see. I think it is pretty obvious to anyone who follows football that you don't get the #1 overall pick for your scouting director.

And I think it is pretty obvious for any one with any bit of reasoning to understand that's not what I was saying. In fact, it should be pretty obvious that, that wasn't a serious post. But I guess someone who is blinded by his feelings from another thread, and brings them here, wouldn't see that. :rolleyes: After all, if you ask anyone on this board that has seen me post, I'm a very serious guy that doesn't use humor or sarcasm at times. When I say things like, "What do the Commanders and Mc Donalds have in common? They both have small fries." I actually mean that the skins have fries in their cafeteria.
 

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What's the point of hiring Ireland if he's under contract until the draft, at least for this year?
 

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Skinsmaniac;1869965 said:
hehehe. I suppose Jerry could allow Parcells to interview Ireland, then when Parcells really wants him, Jerry backs out and says that for the Phins to get Ireland before the draft they will have to give up a pick. It won't be a #1 though.

no, but it could be leverage in a trade. *if* that's even possible w/picks for front office people.
 

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So, I wonder who would replace Ireland?

Within the organization or does Jerry look elsewhere? I'm guessing we probably go within the organization to our current head of college recruiting. Just a guess, though.
 

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I hope I don't seem flippant with the words of others since I only skim read thru much of this thread but has it been pondered as to how his loyalties can be trusted on draft day if he is promised to the Dolphins right after the conclusion of it?
 

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iceberg;1870203 said:
no, but it could be leverage in a trade. *if* that's even possible w/picks for front office people.
Espn.com had a comment in the weekly roundup, that Jones might let Ireland walk if he agrees not to take too many scouts with him. That could be the agreement.
 

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This is all a bit strange in that our players haven't even won anything yet . . . . Aren't we supposed to at least win 1 Super Bowl first? :mad:
 

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Woods;1870233 said:
This is all a bit strange in that our players haven't even won anything yet . . . . Aren't we supposed to at least win 1 Super Bowl first? :mad:

not in an instant gratification world, no.
 

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Skinsmaniac;1870226 said:
Espn.com had a comment in the weekly roundup, that Jones might let Ireland walk if he agrees not to take too many scouts with him. That could be the agreement.

could be. will be interesting, that's for sure.
 

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Woods;1870233 said:
This is all a bit strange in that our players haven't even won anything yet . . . . Aren't we supposed to at least win 1 Super Bowl first? :mad:

I think this means it is a forgone conculsion that we will win :starspin
 

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Skinsmaniac;1870226 said:
Espn.com had a comment in the weekly roundup, that Jones might let Ireland walk if he agrees not to take too many scouts with him. That could be the agreement.

Highly unlikely. If Ireland goes, he'll probably take some of his scouts with him. Ireland won't be able to speak for those below him. In the end, it'll be about money and loyalty, not necessarily in that order and I think that'll hold true for Ireland as well.
 

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I'd be surprised if Lacewell takes over given his age. He might get a 1 year deal just to "help out".

Then again, I'm surprised that Ireland would be interested in the job.

Hopefully, I'm guessing that Jerry will make Ireland stick to the deal through the draft. Thus forcing Parcells to look elsewhere since if Ireland couldn't go to Miami until after the draft, he'd be useless to the Fins for 2008.





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see ya ireland, have fun losing in maimi, and getting fired in a couple yrs.
 
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