Irvin: ROMO should just play

[Hostile]

In some weird butterfly effect style twist of fate, had we not had the guy bring so much shame to our organization - we probably wouldn't have had so much success.

He still may be an attention *****, but he's a 3 time Super Bowl winning WR if he didn't have that ego he wouldn't be where he is today.

Granted he may have done some absolutely stupid things, he has really taken an active role to turn his life around. Sure he got popped with a little marijuana a few years back, but Mike's life has drastically changed since he's become an 'analyst'. His hall of fame speech was incredible, and I really do believe in rehabilitation - especially in this case.

You give me a team full of choir boys, and I'll show you losers.

1971 Cowboys.

Show me the "thugs."

 

[Hostile]

Oh, you're right. "Hate" is probably too strong of a word. Let me rephrase that by saying "cut the man down for all his past problems and insult him at every turn" instead of the word "hate"

Some people will do that. I'm not.

I said and am still saying that it's June and we're not playing yet. This advice is retroactive nonsense about something that cannot happen at this point.

Either that or you are telling me that Irvin thinks Tony Romo should be invisible. The QB of the Cowboys should be a recluse. He should act liek a microphone is poison.

That's silly man.

 

[Apollo Creed]

1971 Cowboys.

Show me the "thugs."

I didn't know thugs existed in the 70s.

 

[Hostile]

I didn't know thugs existed in the 70s.

Ever heard of Al Capone, John Dillinger, etc.?

Those guys were from the 1930's.

Let's go back even more. Ever heard of Jesse James, the Dalton Gang, Billy the kid, etc.?

Those were from the 1800's.

I could go back even further if you don't get the point.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Ever heard of Al Capone, John Dillinger, etc.?

Those guys were from the 1930's.

Let's go back even more. Ever heard of Jesse James, the Dalton Gang, Billy the kid, etc.?

Those were from the 1800's.

I could go back even further if you don't get the point.

Gangsters.

 

[slick325]

So now were supposed to hate Mike cuz he said something about Tony?

Just wanna make sure I'm in the right line with the rest of the sheep.

Until Tony wins a playoff game he's gonna be criticized for being a guy who can't get it done.

My thoughts exactly!!!!! It is amazing that a Hall of Fame player who was instrumental in winning CHAMPIONSHIPS in Dallas can't state an opinion on Romo without being villified. Sad.

 

[Apollo Creed]

My thoughts exactly!!!!! It is amazing that a Hall of Fame player who was instrumental in winning CHAMPIONSHIPS in Dallas can't state an opinion on Romo without being villified. Sad.

Mike was a guy that was willing to die to win. Ironic that he had to be carried off the field, that was the only way they'd get Mike to stop.

Romo on the other hand hits us with, 'if losing is the worse thing that happens to me...'

I can understand the criticism.

I'm not an idiot Romo hater either, I think he's a top 5 QB in this league. I just think for a really bright guy he is naive when it comes to perception.

 

[Alexander]

So now were supposed to hate Mike cuz he said something about Tony?

Its laughable.

So is the scoffing at legends who basically are responsible for winning real Super Bowl championships who have their doubts about our current crop of big talkers and small producers.

But whatever floats your boat and makes you feel better and more secure about the current situation, which honestly is a far cry from the winning traditions established by players like Irvin.

What's funny is the respect factor is completely the opposite of how it should be. Those who actually did it are getting less, while those who have done absolutely nothing except talk big or say the right things are getting the benefit of the doubt.

Irvin's point was prove it. It is not a stupid thought, nor is it out of place when it is June.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You must have been born after 1995. Just no respect.

I wish.

Eh, wait, that would mean high school again. No thanks.

Really though, I think you must have been born after 1980 or so. The mega Irvin fanboys all seem to have been teenagers or younger when he was playing.

Look, it's great that Irvin could stay up all night and still practice harder than anyone. It's great that he ran routes in full pads in the summer until he puked. But it seems to me that as time passes, I see more and more people who give him way too much credit for those 90s teams. His motivational speeches and intensity and "getting in peoples' faces" are way overrated in those teams winning Super Bowls. Some people seem to think he could take a team of scrubs and just by getting all emotional and screaming at them, he'd have them winning Superbowls. Just look at some of the comments from his reality TV show.

Irvin should be thanking his lucky stars that he was fortunate enough to get Jimmy and Aikman and Irvin and the rest on his side instead of bashing the current QB who hasn't done anything wrong. It's funny, I don't remember players from the first Super Bowl-winning Dallas teams trashing players on the Danny White era teams for all their shortcomings. I wonder why that is?

And the real kicker in all this is that Romo has shut up. He's barely said a word since the season ended, and the one time he did talk to the press at OTAs just a couple of weeks ago, he was very careful to say absolutely nothing negative about TO. So all this is really just Irvin tiliting at windmills as he rushes to the defense of his BFF Owens... Who is in North America now.

 

[slick325]

Its laughable.

So is the scoffing at legends who basically are responsible for winning real Super Bowl championships who have their doubts about our current crop of big talkers and small producers.

But whatever floats your boat and makes you feel better and more secure about the current situation, which honestly is a far cry from the winning traditions established by players like Irvin.

What's funny is the respect factor is completely the opposite of how it should be. Those who actually did it are getting less, while those who have done absolutely nothing except talk big or say the right things are getting the benefit of the doubt.

Irvin's point was prove it. It is not a stupid thought, nor is it out of place when it is June.

Well put. :clap2:

 

[Hostile]

Gangsters.

Point is the 1971 Cowboys won a Super Bowl and you have deemed that impossible since they are losers.

 

[Ren]

Look, it's great that Irvin could stay up all night and still practice harder than anyone. It's great that he ran routes in full pads in the summer until he puked. But it seems to me that as time passes, I see more and more people who give him way too much credit for those 90s teams. His motivational speeches and intensity and "getting in peoples' faces" are way overrated in those teams winning Super Bowls. Some people seem to think he could take a team of scrubs and just by getting all emotional and screaming at them, he'd have them winning Superbowls. Just look at some of the comments from his reality TV show.

He won in college as well i know Jimmy was there too but Irvin was the one on the field making the plays just like he did here, to try and discredit what he meant to those teams in the 90s cause he said something about Romo is absurd when even the players them selves said he was the hart and soul of those teams

 

[Hostile]

You've got to love the spilled milk crowd and their hyperbole.

"Oh, you are a koolaid drinker if you disagree with a legend like Michael Irvin. Go get your drum and beat on it some more. I'm negative and I'm cooler than you."

Heaven forbid they actually try to see what was actually said.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Its laughable.

So is the scoffing at legends who basically are responsible for winning real Super Bowl championships who have their doubts about our current crop of big talkers and small producers.

But whatever floats your boat and makes you feel better and more secure about the current situation, which honestly is a far cry from the winning traditions established by players like Irvin.

What's funny is the respect factor is completely the opposite of how it should be. Those who actually did it are getting less, while those who have done absolutely nothing except talk big or say the right things are getting the benefit of the doubt.

Irvin's point was prove it. It is not a stupid thought, nor is it out of place when it is June.

Exactly.

I was starting to think I'm going crazy around here.

 

[Hostile]

I wish.

Eh, wait, that would mean high school again. No thanks.

Really though, I think you must have been born after 1980 or so. The mega Irvin fanboys all seem to have been teenagers or younger when he was playing.

Look, it's great that Irvin could stay up all night and still practice harder than anyone. It's great that he ran routes in full pads in the summer until he puked. But it seems to me that as time passes, I see more and more people who give him way too much credit for those 90s teams. His motivational speeches and intensity and "getting in peoples' faces" are way overrated in those teams winning Super Bowls. Some people seem to think he could take a team of scrubs and just by getting all emotional and screaming at them, he'd have them winning Superbowls. Just look at some of the comments from his reality TV show.

Irvin should be thanking his lucky stars that he was fortunate enough to get Jimmy and Aikman and Irvin and the rest on his side instead of bashing the current QB who hasn't done anything wrong. It's funny, I don't remember players from the first Super Bowl-winning Dallas teams trashing players on the Danny White era teams for all their shortcomings. I wonder why that is?

And the real kicker in all this is that Romo has shut up. He's barely said a word since the season ended, and the one time he did talk to the press at OTAs just a couple of weeks ago, he was very careful to say absolutely nothing negative about TO. So all this is really just Irvin tiliting at windmills as he rushes to the defense of his BFF Owens... Who is in North America now.

This will be completely ignored while the drum beat about mindless homers goes on.

 

[Ren]

Had Irvin said how great Romo was and he was going to win the SB this year the very same people bashing him in this thread would have been singing his praises.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Had Irvin said how great Romo was and he was going to win the SB this year the very same people bashing him in this thread would have been singing his praises.

Totally wrong. People who say this are completely missing the point.

But I love the idea that if you won a Super Bowl, then by Gawd, you're entitled to trash current players all you want.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Point is the 1971 Cowboys won a Super Bowl and you have deemed that impossible since they are losers.

Touche.

Allow me to retort, in today's mass media football it is virtually impossible to win championships with a team completely full of choir boys.

 

[Ren]

Totally wrong. People who say this are completely missing the point.

But I love the idea that if you won a Super Bowl, then by Gawd, you're entitled to trash current players all you want.

How is what he said trashing the current players?
What Irvin said was basically "shut up and play", IMO that's not trashing that's just good advice


If anyone is missing the point here...

 

[Big Dakota]

I think Romo needs to grab this team by the throat and make it his. He's a 60+ million dollar QB on America's Team, so own it baby. He's gonna be target #1 anyway. By Tony saying he's gonna be more vocal tells me he knows exactly who he needs to be for this franchise. In my opinion this shows a lot of tact.