Is a DL of Selvie-Melton-Donald-Allen possible?

[Alexander]

Of course you put QBs on your board even if you aren't going to draft them. Heck, they were littered all over our board last year. Luck was our number 1 rated prospect in the 2012 draft.

And he was a special player that if for some absurd reason he was available, you would draft him.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

And he was a special player that if for some absurd reason he was available, you would draft him.

The point is, there are always QBs on our board. Barkely, Geno, and Nassib were all on our board last year's draft as second round prospects. They are placed there to assess value.

 

[sbark]

exactly. If I sign a 27 year old 3tech, I am not looking to draft one in the 1st round and my board will reflect that. I'd still be OK taking an Easly in the 3rd.

I'd like to think they still will if he drops to 16......Like Seattle they want waves of disruption via fresh legs coming all game long.
Like to see them go Donald / DE in the 2nd/ Billy Turner OT/OG in the 3rd.........Still think if they miss on Donald in the1st, RodM has got a few pegged in lower rounds that could help---Melton was a 4th rounder--the odds get less, but go back up with RodM doing the choosing.

 

[visionary]

exactly. If I sign a 27 year old 3tech, I am not looking to draft one in the 1st round and my board will reflect that. I'd still be OK taking an Easly in the 3rd.

even if we sign melton, i wuld still trade down to mid 20s and take jernigan or hagemann

but our FO will not do that and that is a concern to me

 

[dbonham]

I wouldn't shy away from picking Donald if we got Melton, and I wouldn't call him a back up. They will both be nickel DTs, one can play some strong side DE, they will be subbing each other out. Hatcher didn't fade because he got his money, he just played too many snaps

 

[TheRomoSexual]

even if we sign melton, i wuld still trade down to mid 20s and take jernigan or hagemann

but our FO will not do that and that is a concern to me

How do you know what our FO will do? We've interviewed nothing but DLinemen and QBs. I guarantee you were the type that screamed the Cowboys would "never" draft olinemen in the first round.

 

[Risen Star]

I'd like to think they still will if he drops to 16......Like Seattle they want waves of disruption via fresh legs coming all game long.
Like to see them go Donald / DE in the 2nd/ Billy Turner OT/OG in the 3rd.........Still think if they miss on Donald in the1st, RodM has got a few pegged in lower rounds that could help---Melton was a 4th rounder--the odds get less, but go back up with RodM doing the choosing.

I wouldn't see the logic. You'd be guaranteeing your 1st round pick and your newly signed long term FA DT would have to share time as long as you are in this defense.

 

[visionary]

How do you know what our FO will do? We've interviewed nothing but DLinemen and QBs. I guarantee you were the type that screamed the Cowboys would "never" draft olinemen in the first round.

if they do pick a DL, i will applaud them for it
the reality is that we will still need big time young DL help even if we get these 2

BTW, i guarantee you are "the type" who will be blindly defending whatever the cowboys do as the right decision. if the cowboys dont even make a pick you will be the first to tell us why that was a smart move.

 

[DoctorChicken]

I'm a bigger fan of Selvie-Jernigan-Melton-Allen. That's a good mix of stout run defense and good passing rushing.

I'm not as high on Jernigan as others, but that DL would make me very happy.

 

[starfrombirth]

I don't know what's so odd about having hope our 3rd round pick two years ago can beat out the street free agent we signed last year.

Selvie was a nice story for about half of last season. He faded down the stretch. I think he's a backup.

Absolutely. I agree he is a rotation guy. I just appreciate how well he came in and stepped up his game. That's why I think they should fight it out and rotate.... That just sounds wrong doesn't it?

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Because I read that we are going to draft smarter with McClay. Things will change. You'll see.

I'll believe it when I see it.

If Melton is miraculously signed and Donald is not available at 16, I would not be surprised if the Cowboys waited until the 3rd round to draft a d-lineman.

 

[dallasdave]

Won't go after both, it's one or the other.

 

[sbark]

I wouldn't see the logic. You'd be guaranteeing your 1st round pick and your newly signed long term FA DT would have to share time as long as you are in this defense.

One has recent injury history.....and one is a raw day 1 rookie:both are undersized DT's.........if we don't have constant pressure from that spot all year long, this defense falls flat on its face again, now unless Crawford/Bass are 3 tech/DE who can be played to get at the weakspots in the OLines ala Red Bryant of Seattle.

 

[kramskoi]

No I don't think it's possible because one of them has to play 1 technique regardless even if they are truly 3 tech's and the Cowboys will not sign Melton to play the 1 and they will not draft Donald in the 1st to play the 1

Yeah, Donald would be wrong at 1T, though I read that Pitt did move him around a little. He is so quick that he really belongs at 3T. He is a bit undersized at 285 so he would have trouble fighting double teams at 1T. I think only two guys from the triumverate mentioned in this post will be in action on the Dallas defensive line this year.

 

[kramskoi]

One has recent injury history.....and one is a raw day 1 rookie:both are undersized DT's.........if we don't have constant pressure from that spot all year long, this defense falls flat on its face again, now unless Crawford/Bass are 3 tech/DE who can be played to get at the weakspots in the OLines ala Red Bryant of Seattle.

Yeah, Donald is a bit undersized but lightning quick and very strong for his size. He is one-half second faster than both Carolina DT's and about as strong as Lotulelei was at the Combine. He should be a standout with Marinelli coaching him. If Dallas was picking ahead of New York and Chicago, then he would be my first choice. An exciting young man!

 

[kramskoi]

Disagree.

If the coaches sees even 285lb Tyrone Crawford as a 1-tech, there's no reason they wouldn't play Melton and Donald together. They'd also be pretty stupid to not draft Donald based on the signing of Melton. That's like passing on Sammy Watkins because you signed Steve Smith.

We also almost played Ratliff and Hatcher next to each other, and it turns out Hatcher was more 3 than 1. Everything we've seen suggests the team has no problems playing two pass rushing DT's next to each other - for better or worse.

If...If they do this, then Donald absolutely belongs at 3T. That's all I will say. A lot of stars have to align for them both to end up in Dallas still. The Giants or the Bears could take Donald if Dallas does not move up.

 

[sbark]

Yeah, Donald is a bit undersized but lightning quick and very strong for his size. He is one-half second faster than both Carolina DT's and about as strong as Lotulelei was at the Combine. He should be a standout with Marinelli coaching him. If Dallas was picking ahead of New York and Chicago, then he would be my first choice. An exciting young man!

no argument there.........but rotation with 2 sets of fresh legs there would go along way to resurrecting this D. Then push Crawford Inside on nickel sits in the 1 tech slot, bringing Bass or Selvie in at DE....pressure from all 4 spots copying Seattle's disruption

When one thinks about it, over the years the Cowboys have had Bob Lilly, Randy White and Leon Lett as their versions of the 3 tech raising all kinds of H#ll on opposing OLines....