Is Bledsoe going into the HOF in his first year of eligibility like Moon?

[Bob Sacamano]

Bledsoe couldn't start for either of these teams and what did he do in his Super Bowl? 4 picks.

Pats scored more with Bledsoe at the helm, than the Seahags did with Hasselbeck

come again?

 

[kartr]

If any QB ever gets into the hall on numbers alone, it will certainly be Manning.

I'm not big on the 'race card' thing either, but there's no question that was a factor in Moon's election. But not a large one, he was a great QB and did some great things in this league. He was also a weapon with his legs as well.

Rediculous!!!!!!!!!!

 

[neosapien23]

I think Bledsoe is a pretty good quarterback, but I would take Moon over him anyday. Moon took his team to the playoffs how many straight times? I think it was somewhere around 10, but I'm not too sure. Moon was a great scrambler and a great passer. He deserves to be in the Hall.

 

[kartr]

Studsoe has been making headlines since the day he was drafted, going all the way back to the Bledsoe/Mirer debate and who should be drafted number one. Do you realize that Parcells actually wanted Mirer INSTEAD of Bledstud?

Drew is a very exciting player, everytime he breaks the huddle hes a threat to throw it 50 yards downfield are run a naked bootleg and catch offensive coordinators off guard. He's a gritty field general and the true definition of a consummate professiol.

He is one of the youngest players to reach some very important passing milestones and records. His impact in this league wil not be forgotten when the voters make their decision 5 years from the day studsoe retires.

You're going to strangle on that bath water.

 

[kartr]

This season would have been more 'special' if Drew didn't have to carry the team on his shoulders like he has every other place he's played.

This team should have been at least an 11 win football team if there was any semblance of a running game, depth at offensive line, a more consistent defense and a better balance in play calling.

Sean Payton should be happy that Studsoe got him a job as the Saints new head coach. This also goes to show how great Drew's aura really is. Too bad Payton didn't do a better job with the lethal weapon he had a QB, we should have been airing it out more often and making teams remember how the words fear and awe go hand in hand with Drew's legendary arm.

Stop the madness. Please.......

 

[kartr]

Hey man I was just kidding around, I saw that the mods were in on it. I don't have Drew underoo's, just a bobblehead, jersey, trading cards and some other knick knacks....and I'm a cowboy fan too not just a Drewpie

Did you hear what they said today about Bledsoe in the superbowl against the Packers, he helped put Reggie White in the HOF, by getting sacked 3 times. What a guy, to help Reggie out like that. Like I said, bad OL seem to follow Bledsoe wherever he goes.:laugh2:

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Did you hear what they said today about Bledsoe in the superbowl against the Packers, he helped put Reggie White in the HOF, by getting sacked 3 times. What a guy, to help Reggie out like that. Like I said, bad OL seem to follow Bledsoe wherever he goes.:laugh2:

yeah, the Bill's and COwboy's Olines were stellar before Bledsoe arrived :jerk:

 

[kartr]

He played on ONE, possibly TWO better teams than he did this year in Dallas...the 96' and 97' Pats. To go even deeper, who knows if this team was really that good at all considering Bledstud carried it on his shoulders the whole season.

Curtis Martin is the only good back that Drew played with, and he left after their superbowl year before he was even in his prime. I won't even bother listing all the scrubs Drew played with in new England after Martin left because it's irrelevant. He was already on the bench behind Tom Brady by the time a consistent running game was in NE again, and Antwain Smith is overrated as well.

As far as Buffalo, is it any coincidence that Travis Henry had a good year when Bledsoe came to buffalo in 02'? Then Tom Donablow traded him for an overrated and overhyped RB (Mcgahee). Need more proof that Drew made him look better too? What was the bills record this year? How many more yards did mcgahee have without Drew there to carry the offense? A whopping 80 yards more, so much for the mcgahee hype about being a 2000 yard rusher like so many other bills fans thought.

Now on to Big D, Julius has the potential to be GREAT, but he didn't do that this year. He had one great game in Carolina, but last time I checked Drew threw for the winning score in that one so the 200 yards don't mean much to me. Barber has outstanding potential as well, but he was only a rookie this year and needs to up his game. The bottom lin is that Drew was supposed to be a 'game manager' here in Dallas while the offense was RUN ORIENTED, that plan backfired obviously with injuries and inconsistency and Drew was the ENTIRE offense for all intensive purposes.

Moon didn't have many big names at running back either, at least in his prime in Houston....but neither did Drew, so the point your trying to make is meaningless.

Well Buffalo went 9-7 in 2004 just like we did this year and McGahee had 80 yards rushing and 2 tds and Nate Clements returned an int for a td and Pittsburgh played their backups and your boy Drew came up short with no tds, a pick,a fumble and under 200 yards passing against Pittsburgh's backups. That sounds like a rerun of the way he played in the last regular season game this year too. See a trend.

 

[kartr]

Buffalo's Record in 01' : 3-13 (pre Bledsoe)

Buffalo's Record in 02' : 8-8 (with a horrible defense and Bledsoe shattering all of Jim Kelly and the Kgun's franchise records)

Buffalo's Record in 03': 6-10 (started 2-0, but after Donablow got rid of 75% of Drew's weapons the offense went into a tailspin and yes Drew looked very bad at times)

Buffalo's Record in 04': 9-7 (started 1-5 and 3-6, then Bledstud led the team to victory in 6 straight MUST WIN games before the Bills vaunted defense let the steelers scrubs mandhandle them)

Buffalo's Record in 05: 5-11 (post Bledsoe)

*also keep in mind Buffalo has had one of the worst offensive line's in the NFL the past 6 years.

Now....

Dallas's Record in 04: 6-10 (pre Bledsoe with the great Vinnie Testeverde who people feel the need to compare Drew to)

Dallas's Record in 05: 9-7 (barely missing the playoffs and division title with Bledstud at the helm)

I won't bother posting the Pats stats, but they were the laughing stock of the AFC before Drew was drafted, and we all know what happened after Drew left....that's another debate as to if Drew would have had the same success that Brady had.

Bottom line, keep believing that Drew isn't a star and that these teams had other superstars to lead them. The records speak for themself and it's no correlation that the number of wins seem to higher with Bledsoe on the team than without him.

The Bills had a rookie qb for god's sake. Saying that Bledsoe is better than Losman aint saying a whole lot. How did the Pats do when Bledsoe left? They got better, that says it all.

 

[kartr]

at least we didn't give Carter a chance to turn us into drug abusers like himself

No, he turned us into winners and helped make us a playoff team, unlike Drew or Vinny.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

How did the Pats do when Bledsoe left? They got better, that says it all.

no it doesn't, cuz someone could come right back with the BIlls falling w/o Bledsoe

 

[Bob Sacamano]

No, he turned us into winners and helped make us a playoff team, unlike Drew or Vinny.

no, that was our D, and weak schedule, a 1-2 TD to INT ratio doesn't win games and get you to the playoffs

 

[neosapien23]

yeah, the Bill's and COwboy's Olines were stellar before Bledsoe arrived :jerk:

Sad thing is the Cowboys Oline was better last year even before the Adams injury. How else can you explain Jones running for more yards despite having Terry Glenn healthy and a better 3rd reciever in Crayton? He still hadn't broke out until Rivera got hurt. Man I wish that dude would have stayed away from that tread mill.

 

[kartr]

yeah, the Bill's and COwboy's Olines were stellar before Bledsoe arrived :jerk:

Kelly Holcomb had a pretty good year after Losman was benched.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Sad thing is the Cowboys Oline was better last year even before the Adams injury. How else can you explain Jones running for more yards despite having Terry Glenn healthy and a better 3rd reciever in Crayton? He still hadn't broke out until Rivera got hurt. Man I wish that dude would have stayed away from that tread mill.

what does the Oline blocking for Julius have to do with Bledsoe?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Kelly Holcomb had a pretty good year after Losman was benched.

and...?

it wasn't as good as the year Bledsoe had last year, when he was the QB of a 9-7 team

 

[neosapien23]

what does the Oline blocking for Julius have to do with Bledsoe?

I'm just saying we spent all that money on Rivera and the OLine was unable to keep Bledsoe from getting hit. I can't believe our Oline actually regressed.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm just saying we spent all that money on Rivera and the OLine was unable to keep Bledsoe from getting hit. I can't believe our Oline actually regressed.

Pettiti actually playing worse than Tucker did at RT for one

and then Flozell going down for half the year

then add Marco Rivera's back, and Al Johnson suffering a sophomore slump, it was basically his 2nd year in the NFL

alot of factors to consider, and another one could be Bledsoe holding onto the ball too long, but Bledsoe doesn't bring Olines down, they just aren't very good to begin with

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Kelly Holcomb had a pretty good year after Losman was benched.

Kelly Holcomb....let me guess he's better than Bledstud too

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

The Bills had a rookie qb for god's sake. Saying that Bledsoe is better than Losman aint saying a whole lot. How did the Pats do when Bledsoe left? They got better, that says it all.

I have no problem with Bledsoe being #2 behind a guy like Tom Brady who is the BEST QB in the league, but the debate will alway rage whether or not the Pats go on to the same success if Bledsoe had not been hurt that fateful day in 2001.

Lose-man was a 2nd year player, Brady was a 2nd year player in 01', Big Ben was a 2nd year player this year. The difference with the latter two is they have talent and didn't play at NCAA powerhouse Tulane University.

Per Tom Dona-hoe on the decision to release Drew after the 04' season: "We felt we got as far as we could with Drew Bledsoe as our QB".......TRANSLATION: We can't afford to keep Drew here because we are a cheap organization that is accustomed to losing, so why not let him go and play Rob Johnson Part II, face it we suck are going to continue losing anyway with our hideous offensive line, marginal offensive players, and overrated defense. We also play in the same division as New England and have no chance because Bellechek knows Drew inside and out. That's why we hired Dick Jauron to coach our crap team as well. A star QB the calibur of Bledsoe don't deserve to play here anyway, let him go to a winning organization like Dallas who spanked us twice.

Lose-man sure did pan out this year in Buffalo didn't he? That's why Donahoe and Mularkey are still employed in Buffalo...not. What goes around...comes around and those 2 toolsheds paid the ultimate price for making Bledstud the scapegoat for their failures....not to mention the 1st, 2nd and 4th round picks they gave up to select loserman:laugh2: