Is Dak elite?

SteveTheCowboy

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The better question is, who does this board thinks is elite? Should really expose a lot of people if they answer that.
there's usually only 1-2 players elite at any given time. Jordan...elite. Kobie elite. Brady elite. Rodgers. There was a short time frame we had several really good QBs. But now?

I think my point might be that you have a hard line...maybe extremely demanding!... for what people think is elite but it isn't that simple.maybe there actually isn't any? or just one?
 

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How did Troy dominate throwing 165 TD's in 165 games? Please explain.
giants and Philly and even reds were WAY different teams back then. It was really a different...harder tougher league...especially on QBs and especially on Aikman. Refs let them beat the snot out of him a lot.

Don;t you think?
 

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giants and Philly and even reds were WAY different teams back then. It was really a different...harder tougher league...especially on QBs and especially on Aikman. Refs let them beat the snot out of him a lot.

Don;t you think?
Compare his stats to QB's that played during his time.

165 TD's and 141 Int's in 165 games is not good.

1.17 TD's to 1 Int is not impressive.
 

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Aikman is Eli Manning. Doesn't do much in the regular season, but elite in the postseason.

Tho, I will say he's better than Eli in the postseason, but arguable who's better in the regular season. One would say Eli screws the Giants more so his lows are lower, but Aikman does less because his running game was so dominant his entire career.

Neither have ever been 1st or 2nd team All Pro.
 

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Geez, seems a lot of people are judging Aikman post 1996... Romo and Eli are on the same tier if you take away the superbowl. Aikman is above them.
 

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Geez, seems a lot of people are judging Aikman post 1996... Romo and Eli are on the same tier if you take away the superbowl. Aikman is above them.
Lmao no. 2 Super Bowls > 2 playoff wins

Romo is nowhere close to Eli. Only Cowboys fans think he is.
 

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Dak is the highest paid player in NFL history. Thats elite.
Wasn't Kyler Murray the highest paid at one point? That didn't make Murray elite, and it doesn't make Dak elite either. It just means Dallas have a very stupid owner.
 

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Arguable imo. He always come thru in the regular season.

Pittsburgh is one of the best defenses in the league, particularly in the red zone. Cousins (500 yards last week) and Herbert couldn't move the ball on them.

And he had 2/3 of a team, including injuries to Cooks, and while the defense played well...it's a challenge to win a game without Parsons and Lawrence. I bet no general football fan predicted us to win without our top 2 defensive players. I'm seeing QBs this year lose a lot when they had injuries...like Stafford, Purdy, etc.

I'd imagine he'd be Top 6 in Mahomes Mountain this week.

That last drive was awesome.... great throw, put it where he trust Tolbert could catch it, and Tolbert caught it.
so where is this elite meter?

whats measuring stick?

Puleasee don't say championship games & super bowls. Thats Team accolades, Not a QB stat, seen many like Bortles, kap, Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Sanchez, Garoppolo, Foles and many others who were definitely not Elite, BUT somehow ended up in championship games, SBs, or SB winning teams..

I mean that debate how did Eli win 2 Sbs? his bro seemed to be labeled elite but him not, both have 2 rings,

in today's game only Mahomes has been labeled a clear consensus Elite. But look at his last 2 seasons, his #s are far from elite. Daks number been better the last 1.5 seasons or at leasty go back to 2021 his numbers are on par with PM. so Reid, GM, and that staff dont get credit for elevating PM game?​

I don't get JAllens label, some do debate hes somehow elite ..right, ok if you add him, now bring back in LJ and Dak that the questions some say yes some say no.. I mean the other guy is Joe Burrows why because he got to a Super Bowl have you seen that talent he had on offense and still has a lot of it four more weapons on offense for sure but look at lately since then he's missed two seasons over a knee which I know you can't take that away from his label as possibly elite but I haven't seen him carry many teams and by the way I've seen at least most of his career they struggled out of the gate. And didn't finish strong many of those days either So what is this meter what is this measuring stick to be called elite because just getting to big games or having an occasional big game because what you're telling around you stepped up your coaching staff out game plan and out adjusted the other team or you didn't have a handful of players on your team obliterate your game?


If we call PM, Farve or Brees elite, somehow all their T/Os get kicked under the rug??

For me from that old guard Rogers is clearly Elite but one SB win in 16+years? There was a lot of big game losses in there right they couldn't get past the NFC championship game I mean if he was truly elite wouldn't he carry his team past that game you know because Danny white got there a lot and we all know he's not even anywhere near elite...

was Aikman elite?? hmm not in my eyes but it can be debated but if hes in, i have to Bring Dak and Romo with Team success out of it, their skillset and stats can be used to make an argument. ie we know the fact is roger and troy clearly had better teams and coaches top to bottom.

If Troy or rogers are truly elite could they have done more in the exact scenarios with Dak and Romos team, I say Clearly. NO..but again its debatable, its never truly clear how to judge elite.
 

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No only Patrick Mahomes and Sam Danorld are Elite ..........some just have a low bar for promotion :lmao::lmao:
if you simply go by this year Patrick Mahomes is out, heck going back to midseason last year PM hasnt played well,

SO, Darnold and Mayfield are by stats the only elite QB play so far this year clear MVP candidates LOL add in this JD kid in DC seems top be the next coming of steve young even though they haven't played anyone. LJ being carried by great DS and Henry.. hmm what exactly is ELITE?
 
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