Is Dak the Future of the Dallas Cowboys?

[Diehardblues]

I understand it as well as anyone. I loved and defended Romo all the time. I dreaded the day he was going to be gone because I feared a long drought before another would come along.

If someone would have told me back in 2014 that when Romo was done we would have a q.b. who was rookie of the year and a pro bowler and threw 45 t ds and rushed for 12 more by his second season...i and anyone else would have been elated.

Somehow people are upset he isn't perfect in his second year with a lot of variables thrown into the mix.

Sound to me like some fans( not saying you ) are too sensitive to criticism. We can call out concerns and issues we have while still rooting on their success.

I can’t imagine a Cowboy fan who isn’t hoping and rooting Dak on which his success should translate into the Cowboys success.

We don’t have to love or be a homer of every piece of the team to love , support and be a homer of the sum.

 

[Proof]

He actually had a terrible 1/2 year. The first half of the season was actually pretty good. If not for the defense collapsing, the Cowboys would have been 7-1 at the half-way point, same as Dak's first season.

Compare Dak's overall QB performance over the 4 halves of his 1st two seasons. There is a definite fall off in the 2nd half of last year. He is likely to recover from that.

Dak's 2016 season - 1st half

• Completion Rate - 165 completions / 248 attempts = 0.6653
• Yards/Attempt - 2020 yards / 248 attempts = 8.1451 ypa
• TD Rate - 12 TD / 248 attempts = 0.04839
• INT Rate - 2 INT / 248 attempts = 0.00806
• Passer Rating - (a+b+c+d)/6 x 100 = 104.24
  • Factor A - (0.6653 -.3) x 5 = 1.8265
  • Factor B - (8.1451 - 3) x 0.25 = 1.2863
  • Factor C - (0.04839 x 20) = 0.9678
  • Factor D - 2.375 - (0.00806 x 25) = 2.1735

Dak's 2017 season - 2nd half

• Completion Rate - 146 completions / 211 attempts = 0.6919
• Yards/Attempt - 1647 yards / 211 attempts = 7.8057 ypa
• TD Rate - 11 TD / 211 attempts = 0.05213
• INT Rate - 2 INT / 211 attempts = 0.00948
• Passer Rating - (a+b+c+d)/6 x 100 = 105.69
  • Factor A - (0.6919 -.3) x 5 = 1.9595
  • Factor B - (7.8057 - 3) x 0.25 = 1.2014
  • Factor C - (0.05213 x 20) = 1.0426
  • Factor D - 2.375 - (0.00948 x 25) = 2.1380

Dak's 2017 season - 1st half

• Completion Rate - 163 completions / 259 attempts = 0.6293
• Yards/Attempt - 1818 yards / 259 attempts = 7.0193 ypa
• TD Rate - 16 TD / 259 attempts = 0.06178
• INT Rate - 4 INT / 259 attempts = 0.01544
• Passer Rating - (a+b+c+d)/6 x 100 = 97.93
  • Factor A - (0.6293 -.3) x 5 = 1.6465
  • Factor B - (7.0193 - 3) x 0.25 = 1.0048
  • Factor C - (0.06178 x 20) = 1.2356
  • Factor D - 2.375 - (0.01544 x 25) = 1.9890

Dak's 2017 season - 2nd half

• Completion Rate - 145 completions / 231 attempts = 0.6277
• Yards/Attempt - 1506 yards / 231 attempts = 6.5195 ypa
• TD Rate - 6 TD / 231 attempts = 0.02597
• INT Rate - 9 INT / 231 attempts = 0.03896
• Passer Rating - (a+b+c+d)/6 x 100 = 73.98
  • Factor A - (0.6277 -.3) x 5 = 1.6385
  • Factor B - (6.5195 - 3) x 0.25 = 0.8799
  • Factor C - (0.02597 x 20) = 0.5194
  • Factor D - 2.375 - (0.03896 x 25) = 1.4010

Yeah I agree, just trying to be diplomatic lol. Even if you concede his entire 2nd was poor, there’s still a rosy outlook imo

 

[Floatyworm]

If we were smart...trade him now while he still has value...Hello Buffalo????

 

[Diehardblues]

It’s all about winning. If we’d gone 10-6 making the playoffs there would have been much less criticism despite lesser performance by Dak.

As a matter of fact if Dak had overcome losing Zeke and OL on the way to playoffs with a lesser statistical performance there might even have been more praise for his Sophomore season .

His stats and personal performance are more scrutinized because of our disapointing season missing the playoffs . Much like his sensational Rookie season revolves around the winning wave of 11 straight.

How impressive would Daks Rookie season had been with a 9-7 record? I bet he wouldn’t have kept the starting role. It’s all about winning. And if we get back on the winning wave then Dak will be in a more favorable position with all fans.

 

[Jumbo075]

Yeah I agree, just trying to be diplomatic lol. Even if you concede his entire 2nd was poor, there’s still a rosy outlook imo

If you look at yards per completion instead of yard per attempt, there has been a steady decline.

1st half 2016 - 12.2 ypc
2nd half 2016 - 11.3 ypc
1st half 2017 - 11.2 ypc
2nd half 2017 - 10.4 ypc

The first half of 2017 was still a drop off from the record setting 2016 season. But the second half is when the wheels came off. A 6:9 TD:INT ratio won't get the job done. I have to wonder, given the declines in yards per completion, if Dak started being a little more cautious because of the increase in interceptions. He needs to break out of that, and start throwing down the field again in 2018.

 

[Ken]

Maybe you're oversensitive. Dak had a precipitous drop in performance in the 2nd half of 2016, and he's deserving of the criticism he's getting for his lack of performance in the last 8 games of 2017. Check out numbers above.

I see no drop in the 2nd half of 2016. Mi also see a huge game against the pack in the playoffs.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I'm sticking to my original approach of giving him this season before I cast definitive judgement on who he is as an NFL QB.

That said, I'm concerned with how he performed last year as a whole.

 

[charron]

So, I wanna start by saying I’m not starting this to have yet another back and forth debate about Dak, it’d be just beating a dead horse at this point for both sides. In almost every thread Dak gets brought up and a debate starts, I just wanna see how many ppl are pro-Dak and anti-Dak.

I’m not adding a “maybe choice” or a “give it one more season” choice cause I think a lot of ppl would pick that just to be safe. I’m drawing a line in the sand, pick a side.

I think dak will be here for atleast 2 more years, technically thats in the future. But Dak isn't a top 12 QB, not even close. He works out ok as long as we have s top 5 OL and a top 5 RB.

 

[rags747]

Is Dak better than Alex Smith?

 

[Gator88]

Well, ideally the answer would be tbd, but Stephen has already said the answer is yes. The problem is that his second half of the year is comparable to Deshone Kizer's second half of the year for the 0-16 Browns.

 

[Greasylake17]

MHO is that in 5 years or less Dak will not be the starting QB for this team. ( yes, we would have already resigned him). I have no time frame exactly what will go down, but my round about guess ( 5 years ) is that Dak WILL NOT be the QB of the Dallas Cowboys. I hope im wrong people. I hope im so very wrong. I mean that. I just not have not bought into the whole Dak movement.

 

[Cowboysfan917]

If we were smart...trade him now while he still has value...Hello Buffalo????

I thought it would’ve been brilliant to let Romo earn the starting job back when he got healthy back in 2016 (then you would’ve had 8-10 games of Dak), traded Dak for a king’s ransom in the offseason to a team like the Browns and use those picks to build a great defense.

Great run game, great defense, veteran QB... could’ve been a very nice 2017.

But that’s not how it went... oh well.

 

[Cowboysfan917]

MHO is that in 5 years or less Dak will not be the starting QB for this team. ( yes, we would have already resigned him). I have no time frame exactly what will go down, but my round about guess ( 5 years ) is that Dak WILL NOT be the QB of the Dallas Cowboys. I hope im wrong people. I hope im so very wrong. I mean that. I just not have not bought into the whole Dak movement.

I agree. He reminds me of a Tyrod Taylor kind of player who just fell into a good situation. I think Dak does some things very well but I think he lacks the ability to carry the weight of the game. I think Dak would have to have an elite defense and a good run game. I don’t see him winning any shootouts. Just not his skill set

 

[GMO415]

I love it when awesome fans put it plainly. No lines to read between there.

I ain't got time for the BS... BTW...your avitar is mesmarizing.

 

[weaver21]

If the running game is at the dominant level we know it can be and the offensive line can get back to taking control in the trenches, Dak is perfectly fine as a bus driver. We can win a Super Bowl with Dak if all those things happen while also building a top-10 defense. Here lies the problem with Dak right now: can he lead this team to victories when the running game is non-existent or the offensive line is struggling? As of right now, I don't believe he can do that.

I believe in Dak and he has tons of talent, but he has to show that he can put this team on his shoulders when the time arises. Everything can't be perfect for Dak to succeed because that's not how it works in the NFL.

 

[percyhoward]

If you look at yards per completion instead of yard per attempt, there has been a steady decline.

1st half 2016 - 12.2 ypc
2nd half 2016 - 11.3 ypc
1st half 2017 - 11.2 ypc
2nd half 2017 - 10.4 ypc

Somebody could go 10 of 30 for 125 yards and have 12.5 yards per completion, but let's use it anyway.

This is all of 2017, not counting the meaningless season-ender in Philly.

4 games without either Smith or Martin
8.6 ypc

other 11 games
11.6 ypc

 

[blueblood70]

well anything ahead is the fure so yes for the next two seasons at least we need to see if he develops..its unfair to try and run him out before his contract is up..lets find out his full potential before we junk him..w earent clevelend, they use 1 new qb every year and decide he isn't the one and just have simply wasted two 1st round picks every year for what 10 dang years..you have to try and develop a player some.. was Kizer really that horrible and they gave up on him already? lucky Philly and Rams didnt give up after some struggles by their rookies..they fixed stuff around them..i believe we are doing that for Dak..hard year was more on the Injuries and suspensions around him..better depth will for sure help Dak be better next year..

 

[DandyDon52]

1. He is cheap
2.excuse for jg.
3.had good 1st season
So he will be here till contract time.
I think he would be great if they knew how to use him, but they have no clue.

 

[blueblood70]

this should get changed to the LONG TERM ANSWER at QB..because for sure the poll says future, he will be here most likely until his contract comes up, at that time we will know and the fO will decide to keep him at starter or start looking for a replacement and making him #2 ..future could mean tomorrow or next season or even 2019..i say he will get every chance to show he can win..first year in the playoffs good playoff game as well..2nd year just missed the playoffs..22-10 as a starter isn't chicken poo.. he may have struggled but there are reasons, hes doesn't have to be elite just show he can run the team and the offense and on occasion win a few without all his horses..time will tell..

 

[Risen Star]

this should get changed to the LONG TERM ANSWER at QB..because for sure the poll says future, he will be here most likely until his contract comes up, at that time we will know and the fO will decide to keep him at starter or start looking for a replacement and making him #2 ..future could mean tomorrow or next season or even 2019..i say he will get every chance to show he can win..first year in the playoffs good playoff game as well..2nd year just missed the playoffs..22-10 as a starter isn't chicken poo.. he may have struggled but there are reasons, hes doesn't have to be elite just show he can run the team and the offense and on occasion win a few without all his horses..time will tell..

Agreed. The poll is worded poorly which is why I didn't vote in it. The future? Yes but that doesn't mean the answer. It just means he will be the QB going forward. Good or bad.